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Welcome back, Nipper...glad you're on the mend. Rod


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My Sig 226 of course.
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Caliber obviously has to be .30 super for this
 
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My nightstand is a P365XL with a weaponlight and red dot.

I practice with a 10" X 16" steel plate and a 3 1/2" hostage paddle on it, so my confidence level is such enough I would take that shot.

I don't know if I would be very confident without that kind of practice, though...


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Must be a question asked on many hiring board interviews, I was asked the same scenario (not wife, or officer, but child in this one) during my hiring board in 1988. Wink


I had a similar question asked by a board during a border patrol interview many years ago.

Very nice groups for TXPO, but were those made under stress, in the dark, with shots coming your way? I suspect the grouping may open up, somewhat.

Most competitions and most training scenarios, involve a "hostage," an obscured target with a no-shoot adjacent target.

As noted before, we don't get to choose the range. In most any situation I can envison, there will be a plethora of no shoot targets. If i'm firing inside a home, for example, everything that isn't the target is a no-shoot. Those rounds will go through walls and hit neighbors, family members, someone walking their dog outside.

Is the situation plausible in which one must absolutely make a shot that's directly adjacent to, or covered by a no-shoot object? Yes, it's very plausible, and yes, one should be absolutely confident in the ability to make that shot. Just about every home invasion I read about involves a hostage somewhere. Recently a local one involved a youth saving the day by shooting the attacker.

As for the distance, if one depends on every defensive shooting being close-in, one will go through life very unprepared.

A few years ago, movie night with the wife, we walked to the car, and encountered a man beating his wife, near our car. People around, numerous vehicles, children present, plenty of ricochet opportunity. Neither the circumstance, nor the range is our choice; it's the bad guy's choice. Again, if you're threatened at a distance and youre in the open, are you going to stand there as a target and wait until he gets close, or are you going to end the threat? We don't look for trouble, but if we encounter it, we seldom get to choose the circumstance. Food for thought.



NO, but we practice the fundamentals and accuracy and grouping to build confidence.

Then during training we run high stress drills in low light, darkness, with red and blue lights going, using flashlights and WML systems, moving , and from concealment and barricades and with a FATS machine that does shoot back.

Having the officer know what they and their weapon is capable of as far as accuracy and their ability is half the fight.

Once those skills are honed in, pressure and other factors are added so each one learns where their threshold is for speed an accuracy.

We continually increase outside variables until a failure point is reached, then we train until that failure point is raised. We are always chasing the dragon so to speak.

Of course our groups open up when training with stress drills, but that's expected.

Knowing and training to our limits, helps us in a stressful situation as far as working within successful personal parameters, and not just spraying and praying.

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Can you make the shot?

Easy way to find out. Set up the scenario on the range. Can you hit you the mark 9/10 cold?
Yes?

If you can do that, do 5 burpees. Repeat 10 times. If you can pull it off 9/10 with that kind of stress, you can feel good about a high percentage shot.

Stress inoculated shooting is one of the best tests of skill.




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Can you make the shot?

Easy way to find out. Set up the scenario on the range. Can you hit you the mark 9/10 cold?
Yes?

If you can do that, do 5 burpees. Repeat 10 times. If you can pull it off 9/10 with that kind of stress, you can feel good about a high percentage shot.

Stress inoculated shooting is one of the best tests of skill.

In the old days, I used to occasionally run drills with our weekly defensive shooting group. Same idea, while not stress per se, involves physical activity prior to making the shot(s).

Start at the line holstered (one at a time). On command, run 15 yards to the rear of the range and return to line. Then draw/fire at seven yards. Back then everybody used carry gear and stock pistols. I wouldn't recommend doing it with competition rigs and 2lb triggers. Smile

Nothing, of course, can replicate reality. However, it does serve a useful function.


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If I had my MR73, I could run across 50 yards of tarmac and up a flight of stairs to simulate Chief-Warrant Officer Prungnaud's feat.


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I get winded in an elevator, let alone finding my wife with a gun to her head, dropping do do 50 pushups and then drawing and gunning down her captor.

MacGyver could do it. MacGyver could do it without a handgun. MacGyver could do it with chewing gum, some baking soda, and a bit of electrical current, and make a bank shot off a plaster cast of a cherub eating grapes, while making a peanut butter sandwich and signing a card for my wife.

If for any reason Macgyver can't make the shot, keep jjones on speed dial. He's got a dog.

Bad guy doesn't stand a chance.

After jjones manages to end the situation, I'd appreciate him checking in the elevator. I'll be there, in need of a defibrilator.
 
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If I had my MR73, I could run across 50 yards of tarmac and up a flight of stairs to simulate Chief-Warrant Officer Prungnaud's feat.


Hmmm...I see a postal match stage in the works Big Grin!
 
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Was at the range today working on some other stuff, and it was kinda muddy, but at least the snow and ice are gone. I figured what the heck, I'll try the burpee thing. I forgot how much I hate burpees. I kept the tempo pretty quick...five burpees, draw and fire, holster, then right back into the next set of burpees. By the 7th round, I was glad to be carrying a single-stack Big Grin. It definitely gets to you, especially the further into it you get. I threw one out of the 10-ring...thankfully my wife is only 5'3", so I guess if I'm gonna miss, better to miss high!

Need to get back out and try it with the P320, but it was a useful exercise.

 
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This is my nightstand gun. It will have to do…


And yet again, the newcomer exhibits good taste!

Very nice. Cool


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I forgot how much I hate burpees.


Nobody “likes” burpees. Wink

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If is HAS to be a 9mm... 228.

If it is from my nightstand, 229R in .40





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Can you make the shot?

Easy way to find out. Set up the scenario on the range. Can you hit you the mark 9/10 cold?
Yes?

If you can do that, do 5 burpees. Repeat 10 times. If you can pull it off 9/10 with that kind of stress, you can feel good about a high percentage shot.

Stress inoculated shooting is one of the best tests of skill.


Good drill. Gonna work this in.





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Police: Woman shoots armed ex-boyfriend who broke into home


Spencer said the woman, her current boyfriend and her three young children were in the home at about 4:30 a.m. when the woman called 911 as her former boyfriend smashed windows to gain entry into the home. The incident occurred on Seasons Avenue between Pecos Road and Eastern Avenue, near the I-215 Beltway.

Spencer said the woman had a gun, prompting the ex-boyfriend to leave the home before returning moments later with a gun of his own.

According to Spencer, the woman then shot the ex-boyfriend when he put his gun to the head of her current boyfriend.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2...yfriend-who-broke-i/

Was it a Glock 19? Hi-Point? Lorcin?

Colt Gold Cup? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Currently, my nightstand pistol is a P320 Carry in an AXG frame. It has a Crimson Trace green laser on it. Without the stress of the moment, I am confident that I could make that shot. With the stress? I have absolutely no idea.
 
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Can you make the shot?

Easy way to find out. Set up the scenario on the range. Can you hit you the mark 9/10 cold?
Yes?

If you can do that, do 5 burpees. Repeat 10 times. If you can pull it off 9/10 with that kind of stress, you can feel good about a high percentage shot.

Stress inoculated shooting is one of the best tests of skill.


Good drill. Gonna work this in.
Can someone please say what is a burpee? Thank you. OK, I found burpee.
 
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