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Ah yes, Dilbert cartoon hell. That unique place were the corporate condemned are fully aware of their collective misery yet no one has the brains or the balls to correct the absurdity. | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
I don't know that its quite as bad. The people I know don't really have set jobs - they work at an agency, but might produce a TV ad, a print ad, a social media campaign, a brand identity for a store, and a logo. They just seem to "do stuff" related to advertising. | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive.  |
You're not crazy, they just aren't familiar. I know and have known hundreds of them in my career. Very real, very normal for them, across multiple industries, generally Advertising/Design roles. | |||
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Douche canoe is the term I prefer  | |||
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More like a full face and Kipling. | |||
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I'm amazed at both the lack of awareness of such a long enduring and common term, as well as the blatant vitriol for a wide and diverse class of workers. Its as if learning and awareness shut down for half of you in 1995. Richard Florida didn't invent the term in ca. 2000, but certainly, he mainstreamed it for, well, regular people? As a middle aged architect, and proud member of the creative class, I can attest that we all don't don lumber-sexual attire and sip lattes with our rescue mutt. | |||
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Bobos is a slang term. It is not derogatory and does not fit many of the Creative Class, but fits some high executives; think Steve Jobs. | |||
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Still finding my way |
"creatives" ? Those types will be the first to be eaten when society breaks down. | |||
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Yep, apparently Ryan is another one. I can assure you, the creatives I'm close with aren't going to be troubled by your ostensible break down of society. Certainly not by some guy "still finding [his] way". (edited for appropriateness) | |||
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always with a hat or sunscreen |
prj, I hope you are aware your comments simply serve to underscore the ridicule the term "creatives" garners. Being a proud architect should suffice. But "proud member of the creative class"? Gesh  Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Don't get your turtleneck in a twist. | |||
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I think its "beret askew", but I do love a turtleneck for pure function in a northern winter. And bald1, respectfully, I have no idea why the term "creatives" has generated the ridicule from all but a few here. Its curious, perhaps having to do with age. But hell, I'm in my 50s, so we're talking a relatively narrow band of age. My friends and peers use it simply to differentiate job types, i.e. sales from creatives from business or similar. None of my "creatives" (and I'd never use it that way) are professional artists. We're architects, graphic designers, even certain engineers. Its merely a job descriptor. I do appreciate member cne32507's wiki search and reference piece here, explains it use effectively. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Yeah, I don't think we're going to be using the term all that often. It appears to be a sensitive area. | |||
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| Still finding my way |
Just capture the whole ensemble.  | |||
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| Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle  |
I have worked with and known several architects. They called themselves . . . architects. Same for graphic designers, artists, painters etc. So why bother hijacking an adjective? That is what gets under peoples skin and garners some grief. I have a PhD, but I am not Dr. Redstone. I do not insist people at the gun club call me Professor etc. I am just Dave. I am not a creative, nor do I tell people that I am an intellectual. "My dad used to say that if you have to tell someone you are smart then you are probably making an ass of yourself." Oh wait, . . . damn This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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| always with a hat or sunscreen |
Simply put it is pretentious, elitist, snobbish, and unnecessary. I'm in my 70s and doubt age has anything to do with it. Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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Oh, age apparently has everything to do with it. Either that or some stilted belief that language is stagnant. "Hijacking an adjective"? While a lovely turn of phrase, it certainly puts you in the second group. Look, I've never referred to myself as a "creative", and not certain I've ever heard anyone do so with such a lack of specificity. Its obvious that if you think thats how its used, the word isn't in your lexicon. Thats fine, I see it used casually often in spoken and written word. Rather than responding dismissively, derisively or ridiculously (first to be eaten?), think of it as simply saying "He's in the trades". I've never heard anyone say I'm in the trades! Thats ridiculous! And kudos to RyanP, what a great image. I may have looked like that on my best days in the late '80s early 90's, now its all crocs and shit. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Then, you should probably choose your battles more carefully. There's more than one group on the first-to-be-eaten list. Do go feeling special. | |||
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| Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle |
Dismissing an idea or comment due to perceived age is stupid. You mind as well call us "hey boomer". But frankly, your whole post says your an asshole, and not a very creative one at that. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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| Internet Guru |
Good grief. It's silly to the point of ridiculousness, but it isn't hurting anyone. You 'creatives' just keep doing you. | |||
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