“Asscheese”, no wait, that is Marv Stenhammar.

The term that's been used for a very long time works for me. Nothing more is needed.
I just call them assholes.

Everybody needs a 'title' or they don't really exist. Who know's, they could be right; if they identify as non-existent who am I to argue?

If you think 'creative' is touch-baggish though, how about 'Maker"? I see that a bunch on my little island paradise.

I first heard the term "Creative Class" 10-15 years ago. I blew it off as a hipster term describing a self-identifying artist. But this thread had me look it up: "Creative Class" is a thing. Hanging a cute or derisive slang description on such a diverse slice of the American economy might not work.

Wiki article about this invention by American economist and social scientist Richard Florida:

"Florida describes the creative class as comprising 40 million workers (about 30 percent of the U.S. workforce). He breaks the class into two broad sections, derived from Standard Occupational Classification System codes:[3]

Super-creative core: This group comprises about 12 percent of all U.S. jobs. It includes a wide range of occupations (e.g. science, engineering, education, computer programming, research), with arts, design, and media workers forming a small subset. Florida considers those belonging to this group to "fully engage in the creative process" (2002, p. 69). The Super-Creative Core is considered innovative, creating commercial products and consumer goods. The primary job function of its members is to be creative and innovative. "Along with problem solving, their work may entail problem finding" (Florida, 2002, p. 69).
Creative professionals: These professionals are the classic knowledge-based workers and include those working in healthcare, business and finance, the legal sector, and education. They "draw on complex bodies of knowledge to solve specific problems" using higher degrees of education to do so (Florida, 2002).
In addition to these two main groups of creative people, the usually much smaller group of Bohemians is also included in the creative class.[4]

In his 2002 study, Florida concluded that the creative class would be the leading force of growth in the economy expected to grow by over 10 million jobs in the next decade, which would in 2012 equal almost 40% of the population."

"Creative" is an amorphous label that people attach to themselves because they don't do any actual work.

I work in a company filled with engineers that create new products and new processes to manufacture them. We solve very complex design and operational problems.

We do not call ourselves "creatives".

Those that do call themselves "creatives" often don't have the brainpower to create anything of substance.

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I think it’s more about temperament, then anything else. And, in urban areas, or so many trust fun kids identify themselves as artists, it is a way to distinguish between that crowd and people who are working for a living.

I am, or less, specialized cook. I believe the current term is industrial chef but I am a long way from being a chef. However, and personality and temperament I get along with the more inventive engineers, musicians, architects, and artists.

I think the rest of my friends are either entrepreneurs or tradesmen, Or lawyers.

Evidently I’m a Bore. Unless my wife meant Boar. I think I’m more boarish. Kinda hairy, grunt a lot when I wake up, grumble a good bit….

Many folks who work in some form of advertising, design, literal art, and so on have been called and calling themselves Creatives for many years, well before Hipster was even a thing.

Pretty sure it's a decades old term, at least.

I feel a little more stupid for having learned about "creatives".

Kind of gives me the same feeling I had the time I was in a cafeteria and heard a young mother ask her child if it wanted a "hand fruit", referring to the whole fruit (apples, oranges, etc.) on the counter, labeled "hand fruit".

-Rob

We called ours the "Director of PowerPoint". Didn't matter, management slobbered on him anyway.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
We called ours the "Director of PowerPoint". Didn't matter, management slobbered on him anyway.

when I was Store Management in the grocery biz,
we could not have a meeting w/o a powerpoint,

and of course, a lot of the meetings were because someone at the corporate level got creative and wanted to reinvent the wheel,
or one of us fukked up and we all had to suffer the 'corrective action' meeting,,


and there was always someone, usually the same guy, that had to ask 20 different creative questions,, that were already creatively answered, to keep us there longer

EgoIdiots… how’s that for Creative?

I was good with just being a " boomer " . I didn't find it offensive , much to the dismay of some snowflakes on Facebook .

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Originally posted by M'headSig:
In advertising, creatives are the graphic designers, art directors, copywriters and creative directors. In an earlier time (circa Mad Men), account executives were known as "suits." Since virtually no one wears a suit anymore, account folk are referred to in the plural as "account."

This seems to capture what the OP was getting at.

I can't really get behind "creative" as a noun, because English has lots of nouns already, we don't really need to turn adjectives into nouns.

Creatives are those people that think they are special but never actually produce tangible, consistent results.

You may not be familiar with the term - but you all know the type.

In the Austin area, there is an abundance of young men that consider themselves creative types. They are sometimes called hipsters. They dress in what I call “lumberjack drag”, ie beards, jeans, wool or gimmie caps, plaid shirts, logger boots etc. Even in the hot Texas summer

Few of them have ever been close to logging, manual labor, hard outside work of any kind, except maybe walking across a street to the next protest rally.

Guess its a compensation thing to dress in a costume of testosterone to make up for the absence of man chemical.

If you can tie a knot in a cherry stem with your tongue, does that count?

Don’t have a goatee but I did feel like I was repeatably pushing a rock up a hill from time to time.

When you use the term " creatives " , it reminds me of the social media " influencers " .