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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
CCP is very "pro-family-values" with respect to with respect to marriage, children, and the nuclear family.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
CCP is very "pro-family-values" with respect to with respect to marriage, children, and the nuclear family.

Well, the male children, and non-minority families...

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
CCP is very "pro-family-values" with respect to with respect to marriage, children, and the nuclear family.

Well, the male children, and non-minority families...

The preference for boys is cultural, and is partly based on parents' need for retirement care to be provided by their child. Men will generally make more money and be able to provide a better retirement. That said China is the least patriarchal of the major Asian countries. In Japan and South Korea married women mostly do not work and in general women never get much past entry level in the workforce. In China women can and do reach upper management.

Under the single child policy in China it was illegal to know the sex of a child before birth, to prevent selective abortions of girls. Not sure if it still is.

Minorities are another story. The 50-ish ethnic minorities recognized by China have long been allowed to have more than one child, along with other preferential treatment due to their minority status. In total, all of the minorities together still comprise a relatively small amount of the population compared to Han Chinese - less than 10% I think, maybe 5%.

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Human rights groups believe China has detained more than one million Uyghurs against their will over the past few years in a large network of what the state calls "re-education camps", and sentenced hundreds of thousands to prison terms.
There is also evidence that Uyghurs are being used as forced labour and of women being forcibly sterilised. Some former camp detainees have also alleged they were tortured and sexually abused.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Not "genocide" but political/religious imprisonment leading to full assimilation and rejection of any anti-Chinese though. Of course we would not and cannot do such things in the U.S. (well there were those Japanese internment camps in WWII) and find it abhorrent.

Notice your article is long on insinuation "human rights groups believe, some have alleged, etc." and short on evidence. I am really trying to find actual evidence of what is really happening in Xinjiang but I have not found much yet. We know the BBC is very leftist biased in all the reporting they do about the U.S. and conservative Americans. Why believe them in much of anything else?

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Since 2017, up to three million Uighur Muslims in China's western Xinjiang province have been plucked from their homes by authorities and disappeared into a prison camp, which the Chinese government glosses over with the term "re-education" facility.

But as evidence unravels of mass human rights violations, the Trump administration is said to be contemplating labeling the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)'s oppression of the Uighur minority genocide, as evidence continues to mount that the government is engaged in a campaign of systematic slaughter against them.

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There are multiple crisis going on under the Biden administration. The war in Ukraine is an emerging humanitarian crisis, growing by the day. Many argue the U.S should have acted sooner. On top of that, the crisis at the U.S. southern border rages on with many outraged it has been neglected for more than a year.

Separately, there’s been a huge humanitarian crisis in China since 2014 with the genocide against Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. It’s not getting much mainstream attention even though innocent people are being severely tortured, raped, indoctrinated and even killed.

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Chinese Communist Party officials say that the Uyghurs, a Turkic minority in the Xinjiang region, are the “happiest Muslims in the world.” The evidence trickling out of western China tells a different story. In July, U.S. customs officials intercepted a 13-ton shipment of beauty products made out of human hair from the region and a video of blindfolded prisoners being led onto train cars went viral. Over the past couple of years, some have compared the human tragedy unfolding there to North Korean totalitarianism and South African apartheid. More recent evidence has inspired comparisons to the Holocaust. “Genocide” is a word that packs a punch, spurring action by connecting “the solemn commitments of the past and a new atrocity unfolding before the world’s eyes,” as a report by the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s Simon-Skjodt Center put it last year. This word, sadly, is now an apt descriptor for the situation in Xinjiang.

Thanks to the fearless work of researchers, journalists, and victims, it’s now widely known that the CCP in 2017 stepped up its repression of the Uyghurs and other Turkic minorities by means of a mass-internment drive and a new, Orwellian surveillance state. When the Uyghurs “graduated” from these “reeducation” and “vocational training” facilities, to borrow the euphemistic terminology of CCP officials, many were forced into slave labor. All told, over a million Uyghurs and other members of Turkic minorities are estimated to have been detained, and a total of 3 million people to have been swept up in various reeducation efforts. Others were charged with bogus crimes and remain imprisoned. Beijing, citing a few terrorist incidents that took place in 2014, claims that it’s stamping out extremism, but its true aim is to solidify Han Chinese dominance over Xinjiang.

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On his last day as the U.S. secretary of State, Mike Pompeo officially declared that the Chinese Communist Party’s actions against Uighur Muslims and other minorities in Xinjiang constitute “genocide” and “crime against humanity.”

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In an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal, Pompeo writes his announcement is the result of “an exhaustive yearslong investigation,” which finds the CCP’s abuses of Uighur Muslims and other minorities in Xinjiang meet the majority criteria of UN definition of genocide.

Uighur Muslims are Turkic-speaking Sunni Muslims of Central Asia. Today most of them live in northwest China’s Xinjiang region. They have a distinctively different language, culture, and religion from China’s Han majority. Even before the U.S. State Department’s investigations, there have been numerous news reports about the Chinese government building a mass surveil­lance system in Xinjiang and putting more than 1 million Uighur Muslims in so-called “re-education” camps, although most have no criminal background and have never been charged with any crimes.

These camps are surrounded by barbed wire fences and have armed guards stationed at the entrances. Once inside, Uighurs are not allowed to leave or receive visitors. Omnipresent cameras monitor everything. Uighurs are forced to pledge loyalty to the CCP and renounce Islam, sing praises for communism, learn Mandarin, and became forced laborers for Chinese companies. A survivor describes these “re-education” camps as places Uighurs are “systematically dehumanized, humiliated, and brain-washed.” An international tribunal also found evidence of forced organ harvesting inside these camps.

Uighur women reportedly suffer the worst: rape, sexual assaults, forced sterili­zation, and forced abortions inside the camps. After an international outcry, the Chinese Embassy in Washington deleted a tweet that shamelessly declared Uighur women had been “emancipated” and were “no longer baby-making machines.”

According to Pompeo, one key factor in determining the atrocities in Xinjiang rise to the level of genocide is the CCP’s efforts to “stop Uighur women from giving birth via forced abortion and sterilization.” Outside the camps, however, Uighur women are no safer, and there are reports of forced marriages to Han Chinese men as well as forced “co-sleeping arrangements” in which Chinese men are assigned to monitor the wives of Uighur men who were sent to camps.

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Serious concerns about genocide were raised after Adrian Zenz, a researcher with the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, released his report for the Jamestown Foundation on the CCP’s draconian family planning measures directed at Uighurs.2
Adrian Zenz, “Sterilizations, IUDs, and Mandatory Birth Control: The CCP’s Campaign to Suppress Uyghur Birthrates in Xinjiang,” The Jamestown Foundation, June 2020, https://jamestown.org/wp-conte...y-21-Rev2.pdf?x41867 (accessed September 2, 2020).

The report detailed the CCP’s coercive family planning policies—including forced sterilizations and implantation of intra-uterine devices (IUDs) in Uighur women and forced abortions of Uighur babies. The fact patterns Zenz documents demonstrate the CCP’s intent of significantly reducing, if not eliminating, the Uighur population.

Corroborating reports have since emerged detailing accounts of Uighur mothers subjected to forced late-term abortions—and even infanticide—for failure to comply with the CCP’s arbitrary birth-spacing requirements.3
“Xinjiang Hospitals Aborted, Killed Babies Outside Family Planning Limits: Uyghur Obstetrician,” Radio Free Asia, August 17, 2020, https://www.rfa.org/english/ne...-08172020144036.html (accessed September 2, 2020).

The CCP’s birth control measures are a part of a broader strategy of collectivizing and interning Uighur Muslims: Zenz’s report, citing the “Karakax List,”4
Christian Shepherd and Laura Pitel, “The Karakax List: How China Targets Uighurs in Xinjiang,” Financial Times, February 17, 2020, https://www.ft.com/content/e02...ea-95a0-43d18ec715f5 (accessed September 2, 2020).

noted that failure to comply with family planning requirements was the number one reason given for internment in political reeducation camps.5
Zenz, “Sterilizations, IUDs, and Mandatory Birth Control.”

These camps currently hold at least 1.8 million Uighurs.6

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Originally posted by maladat:
Why the CCP apologism?

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
But there is no "genocide" in the sense of mass killings of people like the Nazis did to the jews.

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any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

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Originally posted by Tirod:
We quit Disney in the 1980's. Just listing the names of all the movies up to then showed a striking concentration on witchcraft and the occult. And I noted that Walt was the source of a lot of that.

Go ahead, recite the filmograpy and you will see it.

Not too many were aware and fewer were even willing to acknowledge it. We quit celebrating Halloween about the same time, too, and tried to put that holiday in perspective for our children. Disney is rarely part of our life now, their expansion into many other areas is typical business expansion but suspect, too.

The current management has apparently decided to destroy the company, and I for one say good riddance.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Don't get him started on Harry Potter, Dungeons and Dragons, video games, or that rock-and-roll music the kids these days listen to, with all that evil gyrating of hips and tapping of toes...

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

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Originally posted by maladat:
Why the CCP apologism?

It's not apologism. The CCP is interning Muslims and attempting to brainwash them to eradicate Islam from China, which goes against everything we believe in the U.S. regarding freedom and liberty. That is bad enough on its own, right?

But there is no "genocide" in the sense of mass killings of people like the Nazis did to the jews. Whether or not other atrocities are occurring depends on actual evidence, but then restricting birthrates, coerced abortions, forced sterilizations, and other population control methods have been used on the entire country in the past, not just minorities. Eradicating religion is something the CCP has been trying to do since the cultural revolution, again for the whole country, not just minorities. As I said, many minorities were specifically allowed to have more than one child and given other favorable treatment because they were minorities.

The difference is that I know people who live in Xinjiang and many who have travelled there, and they all say that the reality in the region is quite a bit different than the western media is reporting. These are educated intelligent people who have access to non-Chinese media and information. They have seen first hand the exceptions and preferences given to minorities in normal life. They do not blindly trust the Chinese government and have taught me the many ways the CCP lies to them. But then they don't have the full story either.

There is a lot of propaganda going on, similar to what is happening in Ukraine right now, and everyone is out to make the other side look as badly as possible. In time, enough hard evidence will be gathered to know the full scope of what is happening. Might not be as bad as the west is claiming, or it might be even worse. Time will tell.

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If Disney actually believes what their own bullshit then they will divest completely from China and all countries that do not legally allow homosexuality and transgenderism. They aren't doing that. Not by a long shot.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

Lay American workers off in IT. Then hire H1B Visas as replacements while forcing said existing employees to participate in a shadowing process where the work would train and shadow the H1B Visa to take their job over. The employees that opted out of this would get no severance, no nothing

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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones:
Desantis is considering removing the "self-governance" of Disney

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...-company-is-powerful

Florida’s Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis addressed on Thursday the suggestion of repealing a 55-year-old state law that allows Disney to effectively govern itself on the grounds of Walt Disney World, following the company’s public opposition to a controversial parental rights law in Florida.