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Just because you can,
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I think BBMW is being sarcastic, pointing out other theories that can't really be proven because they aren't true. Theories can be supported when you play loose with the facts.

Correlation is not necessarily causation.

Lots of people and groups have wished to do harm over the years but it takes a special kind of nut to actually do something like that.
Throughout history, successful assassinations have usually been done by higher IQ crazies, when the stars aligned for them because random events provided the opportunity.


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Posts: 7332 | Location: NE GA | Registered: August 22, 2002Report This Post
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Want to know who really killed JFK? I recommend St Michael's Church, Fort Walton, Kansas. Front pew, right leg, hollow.




 
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I was with the Dallas Police Department for 23 years. I had the opportunity to see a lot of information on the assassination and knew J.D. Tippitt's best friend on the Department pretty well. I also had numerous conversations during my time there with officers who were either involved in the various incidents that made up the entire course of events or worked on the investigation itself in conjunction with the FBI.

A few years before I joined the Department, I became acquainted with and had a series of discussions with a retired FBI agent who was one of the Bureau's primary investigators on the assassination. His accounts were very specific and were consistent with the stories my DPD friends had told.

From everything I saw and heard from all of these people, Oswald did it. Period.
 
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I think BBMW is being sarcastic ....


If so, that should be made clear because there are countless notions about the event that are even less plausible and yet are believed by many people.

Most of the time people who are being sarcastic do not offer up supposed proof of their statements.




“The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”
— Bertrand Russell
 
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58 years ago (plus 2 hours) from this very moment.


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Want to know who really killed JFK? I recommend St Michael's Church, Fort Walton, Kansas. Front pew, right leg, hollow.




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Let the adults handle matters such as this. You're just playing cowboys-and-indians in the side yard.


ima gonna steal that line,,,,



FWIW, I was not yet 2 months old when it happened,

my mother said she was nursing me when she found out and she cried,

she was a big fan of the entire Camelot bs, as were a pile of people afterwards,



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"The committee found that Marcello had the motive, means and opportunity to have President John F. Kennedy assassinated, though it was unable to establish direct evidence of Marcello's complicity".



All this sentence means is that he had a reason and the tools to do it, but - darn it all - there just isn't any evidence that he did do it. Why are you ignoring that second part?




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Posts: 50583 | Location: Texas | Registered: February 10, 2004Report This Post
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Strange that all these conspiracies don't mention that his brother Bobby was killed just a few years later by another lone nut with a grudge. He had a similar enemies list including mob guys. In fact, Bobby was the guy actually handling the mob prosecutions and more responsible than JFK.
Sirhan wasn't killed off to keep him quiet (in fact he's still alive today) and there has never been a credible link established for either.
The only link is that they were both able to be in the right place at the right time with the tools necessary in that era of poor security.

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Gawd help us all.


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The butler did it in the pantry with a candlestick.



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One man, Oswald, and a target of opportunity. Gerald Posner lays it out in his book, “Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK.”
 
Posts: 4793 | Location: WI | Registered: July 02, 2006Report This Post
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One of the reasons these conspiracy theories won’t go away is the sloppiness of the Law Enforcement agencies involved. First, Oswald was killed on camera while being escorted by police officers.

Consider the so-called “magic bullet” was allegedly found not in the limo, not in Governor Connelly’s body, but in a stretcher that was used to move Connelly into the hospital. This bullet is in great shape, a tiny dent in the nose, and a little distorted at the base like if you hit it with a soft mallet. The only problem with that is it passed through Kennedy’s body, then Connelly’s, then through Connelly’s wrist, breaking it in the process. You can see on the x-rays that it left fragments in Connelly’s arm. Where did the fragments come from? Now if you have ever shot a bone with a rifle round, you know the bullet gets mangled. Here’s what I think. They lost the original “magic bullet” and replaced it with one they fired to match ballistics.

A bunch of evidence files were disposed of by the FBI because they were taking up storage space, at least that was their excuse for losing those files.

It’s no wonder people think there was more than one shooter or conspiracies were involved when the government messes up an investigation this important.

BTW I think there is a very high probability that Oswald did it all by himself. But I’m not 100% certain.
 
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The round nose, high sectional density bullet in question was an old design even in 1963 that was being abandoned by world militaries by WWI. Later spitzer (pointed) bullets, even full metal jacket designs, tend to tumble upon contacting flesh much more readily and are more susceptible to breaking up. When spitzer bullets were first used in warfare those on the receiving end often believed that they were “dum-dum” or otherwise “modified” bullets because of the more severe wounds they caused. And of course there is virtually no similarity between the bullets fired by Oswald and anything that an ethical hunter would use today, or the last 80 or more years. If there was a bullet that could pass through two people with little or no damage, it would have been that one—which it of course did.

A common phenomenon that occurs with FMJ bullets when they strike a hard obstacle without enough force to break up is for lead to be extruded from the base. Any deformation of the bullet jacket, as occurred with the “magic” bullet, puts pressure on the lead core in the same manner as pressing on a toothpaste tube. (For those not familiar with the damage to the bullet, it’s important to view all the photos of it, and not only of the one side that carefully hides the deformed base, something the conspiracists invariably do.)

Do I know for certain that’s what happened when the bullet struck the small bones in Connolly’s wrist? No, but it’s perfectly plausible. In my brief reading of the skeptical commentary about the source of the fragments in his wrist, it seems to me that that fact, like many others pertaining to firearms, ammunition, ballistics, and marksmanship were mysteries to those rendering their ignorant opinions. Many self-styled experts simply aren’t, and simply don’t know what they’re talking about. That continues to this day as should be obvious from the never-ending nonsense we’re exposed to from the BS news media, but it was even more common at the time JFK was murdered. Not only was the level of knowledge about such subjects less, but there were few sources of information such as the Internet to serve as counterpoints.

(I know that many people believe the JFK assassination has been talked to death and get tired of even seeing it, but I continue to respond to some of these claims because they’re either things that are very poorly understood, or they’re things that have been generally overlooked or ignored on both sides. I also do not post such comments in an attempt to convert the true believers, but some people still have open minds and are willing to consider alternatives.)




“The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”
— Bertrand Russell
 
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I have no clue what happened or who was involved . I won't even speculate on it . I DO know that I do not believe the Warren Commission Report is the beginning and end of the story . There is no valid reason to suppress any records . Covid , my ass .
 
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I thought the magic bullet was the one that supposedly zig-zagged to hit both Kennedy and Connolly (it didn't, that was just a misunderstanding of the spatial relationship between the two positions and the path of the bullet) and the bullet found on the gurney was the 'pristine' bullet?

Anyway, it was Jimmy Hoffa and a young D.B. Cooper that killed JFK. Everybody knows that - just ask Elvis.



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Wait... JFK is DEAD?!!!





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I admit to being a little hazy on conspiracy terms, but I believe it’s generally assumed that the bullet that didn’t zig-zag and the bullet that was damaged was the same “magic” and “pristine” projectile, and therefore could be called by either or both names. The damaged pristine bullet wasn’t found in Connolly’s body, but it’s highly unlikely that the bullet that didn’t even hit the car or the one that did hit Kennedy’s head would have ended up in the hospital. It’s therefore most likely that the damaged pristine projectile was also the bullet that didn’t zig-zag.

I suppose when referring to the damaged projectile that it would be less confusing to some to call it the “pristine bullet,” but it was “magic” before it was found to not be pristine, so I don’t feel too bad.




“The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”
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Will we ever know the full truth of JFK's assassination?


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I'm confused (not the first time!)

One bullet goes through Kennedy, strikes Conelly, breaks ribs, shatters wrist, and strikes his leg and is found in pretty good shape. The next bullet from the same gun ?..hits a skull and penetrates about half an inch of bone and shatters into a hundred tiny pieces (reference the head Xray).

How do 2 bullets, same caliber, same gun, shot at nearly the same distance, perform so radically different? Why does the head shot bullet look so similar to the performance of a high speed, small caliber varmint round (such as 223,22-250)??
 
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