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Bolt Thrower |
That's my goal, just need to buy the plates. I looked at lots of bags and rigs and figured that a plate carrier did the same thing but also could protect some of my squishy bits. On the other hand a cheap 6-cell USGI magazine bandolier thrown over the neck would work. You could even put first aid in one or two of the mag slots. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
Reading carefully, it looks like BRL thought Shotgun Zeke was trolling. I've never seen Sigfreund accused of trolling. That would be a stretch.  | |||
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| Back, and to the left  |
This reminds me of some lines in Apocalypse Now: Kurtz orders the assassination of three Vietnamese men and one woman. Enemy activity in his old sector dropped off to nothing. Guess he must have hit the right four people. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
I was taught that one almost always needs a sling on a long gun. I was also taught that Home Defense is one of the times when one not only does not need, but absolutely does not want a sling on a long gun. | |||
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Nosce te ipsum |
I'm a little late to reading every posting ... sorry ... Back a few pages to the jailhouse interview. And when did "jail interviews" become legal?
"Or whatever"? She is sorry she placed Mr. Peters in a position of three men concealing their identity while B&E, against one? While not having compassion for him? And "bail"? Yes, she is nuts. With statements like that, she is set up for an insanity plea.
But deserves repeating. This is the drivel liberal media will thump upon. Like you said, as a wise man once said, "deserves got nothing to do with it." Three against one is not a fair fight. Three men with concealed identities breaking into your house cannot dictate the maximum measure of response with which you may respond. | |||
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| sick puppy |
too bad she's not in Utah. Then when she got the death penalty, She could elect to die by firing squad here and go out like her friends did. ____________________________ While you may be able to get away with bottom shelf whiskey, stay the hell away from bottom shelf tequila. - FishOn | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
He is right it wasn't - it was 3 against one. The 3 even picked the time and had weapons. Just so happens the one had an effective force multiplier. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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| Slayer of Agapanthus |
She's pretty stupid. If they go for headshots the bullets may well bounce off. "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre. | |||
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We have firing squad as an option in Oklahoma too. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
No slings on HD long guns is what I was taught, too. Makes sense to me. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
What are you talking about? Jail interviews are up to the jailee. Over the years, many a jail bird has sang to 48 hours, Dateline, and the local news. I'm really at a loss of your comment about it being "legal"? Somewhere, a public defender now has an ulcer because of the interview. But, she is free to be as stupid as she likes. It is a free country. | |||
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| Freethinker |
The only restriction on a jailhouse interview I can think of would be access to the prisoner that might be limited to certain times. They are permitted visitors and they can say what they want to a visitor (within reason; I’ve seen them cut short when threats or other inappropriate comments are made). ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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| Nosce te ipsum |
Sorry, I do not watch the news. Never really did. No cable TV here either. I ASSumed a prison would not allow press conferences to inmates. Providing a pulpit for the accused, tainting prospective jurors, etc. Mumia Abdul Jamal had a radio show planned, but that was after he was convicted. In May 1994, Abu-Jamal was engaged by National Public Radio's All Things Considered program to deliver a series of monthly three-minute commentaries on crime and punishment. The broadcast plans and commercial arrangement were canceled following condemnations from, among others, the Fraternal Order of Police and US Senator Bob Dole (Kansas Republican Party). Abu-Jamal sued NPR for not airing his work, but a federal judge dismissed the suit. His commentaries later were published in May 1995 as part of Live from Death Row. - wiki | |||
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| Member |
Honest question here: I would imagine a home defender would be more like a soldier, i.e. any stranger breaking and entering the home would be seen as imminent threat and would be engaged beyond arm's each? It'd be unwise to engage physically in this case imho. Also if jumped, would the weapon sling help in preventing the rifle from turning onto oneself during grappling? | |||
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| Member |
Here is where I get my plates: https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/ “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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Some thoughts on slings and H2H combat. One good thing about slings and straps is they only work in one direction. They can't grab it and push, only pull. Well, ideally (if you want to injure them), then they are pulling you in the direction you need to go. So, instead of struggling, just step into them in the direction they are pulling you and slam the muzzle, forend or your hand into whatever vulnerable part is exposed. They are expecting resistance, when you drive forward in the direction they are pulling, it takes their balance (like letting go of a rope during a tug of war) and adds to your force. You may go down, only because they can't move backwards fast enough and fall, but you will land on top of them, adding even more force to what you are striking. It can be as simple and they grab and yank, you step in and with either hand heel-palm the chin or rake the eye (whether they drag you down on top of them or not). If you land the strike before they fall still grabbing your gun/sling, they will just fall on their own. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
But only in the free states. Any resistance would be deemed unfair in commie places. The girl was left to use her wits in her interview. To bad she wasn't armed. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
I'm sure there are limits on what the warden will allow - a sit down with a TV reporter with a camera? Sure. A full blown pulpit for violent rhetoric? Probably not, but they can probably say whatever they want in a 1 on 1 meeting with a visitor, taped or not. Like Jones said, it's a free country, and to be stupid is certainly a freedom many Americans enjoy daily, if not continuously. | |||
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Semper Fi - 1775 |
No Charges http://www.startribune.com/no-...intruders/417988273/ OKLAHOMA CITY — An Oklahoma prosecutor says no charges will be filed against a 23-year-old man who fatally shot three intruders in his home, but that the woman who drove them there is being charged with first-degree murder. Wagoner County Assistant District Attorney Jack Thorp said Monday that Zach Peters "acted justifiably" March 27 when he shot Maxwell Cook, Jacob Redfern and Jakob Woodruff at his home just outside the Tulsa suburb of Broken Arrow. Thorp also said 21-year-old Elizabeth Rodriquez was charged with three counts of first-degree murder. Rodriquez has said she drove the three men to Peters' home to burglarize it, but doesn't feel responsible in their deaths. State law allows murder charges against a person who takes part in a crime in which another person is killed. ___________________________ All it takes...is all you got. ____________________________ For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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| Big Stack |
Glad to see the kid will not face charges. I'm a little surprised that they're going after the driver for first degree murder. I don't know OK law, but I thought that usually implied the murder was premeditated. I would think it would be something like what around here is second degree murder (depraved indifference.) | |||
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