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Trump’s loyalty pledge is going to save him millions
Yahoo Finance By Rick Newman
2 hours ago
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U.S. presidential hopeful Donald Trump speaks in New York .
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U.S. presidential hopeful Donald Trump speaks in New York September 3, 2015. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson

Donald Trump, may be “really, really rich,” as he wants everybody to know—but that doesn’t mean he wants to spend all his spare cash running for president. And now it appears he won’t.

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Trump recently made a “loyalty pledge” to the Republican party, saying he’ll support whoever the party’s presidential nominee is (assuming it’s not him) and won’t mount a third-party bid as an independent. There are political reasons for Trump to do this—some states, including South Carolina, require such a pledge for candidates to be included on their party’s ballot in the primaries. Trump, for his part, says sticking with the GOP is the best path to the White House.

Maybe so, but Trump’s decision will likely save him many millions of dollars if it means he has ruled out running as an independent. Trump is funding his own campaign, and has probably already spent the $1.8 million he loaned the campaign in June. That’s a pittance, of course; a well-run presidential campaign costs hundreds of millions of dollars these days, plus tons of support from outside spending groups. But the big spending occurs late in the race, and if Trump only competes in the primaries, he’ll spend just a fraction of what a full campaign would cost.

In 2012, for instance, Barack Obama’s campaign spending swelled from just $18 million in January to $176 million during the last month of the campaign. Mitt Romney's spending followed a similar pattern: He spent $19 million in January but $105 million in the campaign’s final month.

If anything, the 2016 campaign is likely to be more expensive than the 2012 race, thanks to the growing role of super PACs able to raise unlimited amounts from rich donors.

[ See why rich political donors are wasting a lot of money .]

Trump, at the moment, is coasting along on a huge wave of free publicity, as the press hounds him hoping for controversial new sound bites—which they often get. That’s probably reducing the cost of campaigning, since Trump can simply call a press conference if he has a point to make, instead of spending money for ads in key early primary states such as Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

But that’s likely to change as the campaign progresses. Voters will start paying more attention to other candidates. The field will narrow as weak candidates drop out, making Trump’s competition more difficult. Many political analysts expect Trump’s lead in the polls to drop sharply as voters get more serious about issues and less smitten by the entertainment value he offers. All of those factors will force Trump to spend more money if he wants to remain competitive.

Were Trump to actually win the GOP nomination, the party would have little choice but to rally behind him. That means big GOP donors would either have to start helping fund Trump’s campaign, or simply concede the election to his Democratic challenger. In that scenario, Trump would most likely stop funding his own campaign and start relying on help from others.

The smart money, of course, is betting that Jeb Bush or Scott Walker or Marco Rubio will win the GOP nomination, forcing Trump to decide whether to run as an independent. Were Trump to do that, the cost of his presidential quest would escalate sharply. Ross Perot’s 1992 independent bid is a benchmark. Perot spent about $64 million of his own money running in 1992, which would equate to roughly $110 million today. It would probably take a lot more now, however, given that the winning candidate is likely to benefit from more than $1 billion in total spending, including super PACs backing the candidate.

So if Trump foregoes an independent candidacy, he probably stands to save at least $100 million or so, assuming he’s sincere when he insists he’s in it to win and will do whatever it takes. That’s a lot of money, even for Trump. Though he claims to be worth more about $8.7 billion, most of his assets are tied up in illiquid real estate and licensing deals that can’t be easily converted to campaign cash. His liquid assets amount to about $302 million, but even so, that doesn’t mean Trump can just cash it in and spend it campaigning. At least not without disrupting his financial planning and possibly his business interests.

Trump might even be better off if he exits the campaign once the GOP primaries are over. The odds of an independent candidate winning the White House are virtually nil, and by the end of the primaries Trump will probably have influenced the direction of the campaign as much as he’s going to. We’d miss him, of course. Even if he’s out of the race, however, Trump would probably find a way to stay in the headlines.




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Donald Trump vs Vince McMahon WWE


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Now he may be heading back to assclown territory. He says he'd keep Obama's Iran deal intact "because there's too much money involved."

http://news.yahoo.com/trump-re...riage-131002899.html

I guess the question is whether we believe he can "strictly enforce" the deal, as he says.
 
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^^^ Yahoo News?? Really?

"Yahoo News" has been on a campaign for weeks now of publishing anti-Trump articles. And puff pieces on Ben Carson. Yahoo News is Katie Couric. Need I say more?


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I'm not sure I buy that since he's participating in a rally with Ted Cruz and Glenn Beck against it.
 
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^^^ Yahoo News?? Really?

"Yahoo News" has been on a campaign for weeks now of publishing anti-Trump articles. And puff pieces on Ben Carson. Yahoo News is Katie Couric. Need I say more?


No doubt. If you read the story, it's a few 1/2 sentence quotes from him, & paragraphs of the "news writer" pontificating.

It's not a news story. It's a story, with a few quotes taken out of context. They have been doing this to Ted Cruz, & I'm sure they do it to most non-liberal people.

This type of "news story" is exactly what is wrong with modern media (Maistream). Sadly, millions if liberal idiots read shit like this, & take it all for fact.
 
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Donald Trump vs Vince McMahon WWE


http://youtu.be/dVxVDDYwNvU

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My mind is now blown. One of my liberal leaning relatives has become a BIG Trump supporter.


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Smashing Pumpkins Rocker Has Interesting Praise for Donald Trump: ‘He’s Running Chaos Theory’
BY FRANK CAMP (2 HOURS AGO) | CELEBRITIES, CULTURE, ELECTIONS, POLITICS
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Warning: Featured video contains graphic language.

Many in the political class are deeply frustrated with Donald Trump’s candidacy. They despise Trump because he’s thrown the rule-book out the window.

However, that’s exactly the reason more and more people are coming to appreciate Trump, regardless of their political views.

The latest high-profile individual to sing Trump’s praises is Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan.

The Hill reports that at a recent Q&A, Corgan said:

“I think what’s cool is Trump’s running chaos theory… He’s forcing a lot of things out into the open, so they can’t control this, whatever that control is…

It’s like the music business: Everybody gets controlled, and somebody comes along that f—s it all up…

I think it’s good that he’s f—ing it up, because whether or not he’s the guy, obviously the political class doesn’t want him there… It’ll open it up to a bigger dialog.”
Self-proclaimed liberal actor Owen Wilson echoed Corgan:

“I think part of it is we’re so used to politicians on both sides sounding like actors at press junkets — it’s sort of by rote, and they say all the right things…

So here’s somebody who’s not following that script… He’s answering a question completely honestly, and in an entertaining way.”
Both men disagree strongly with Trump’s message, but are still heaping praise on his candidacy because it’s radically unconventional.

The politicos? Not so much.

The Washington Post reports that Club for Growth, a conservative organization with its own Super PAC, is reaching out to donors so they can gather enough cash to launch an attack on Trump in the form of a massive ad campaign.

According to the New York Times:

“Republican strategists and donors have assembled focus groups to test negative messages about Mr. Trump. They have amassed dossiers on his previous support for universal health care and higher taxes.”
Trump currently stands at 27.2% in the RCP polling average.




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Dems won't like this.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...on-shrinks-key-gaps/

Donald Trump has a clear path to the White House, according to a shocking new poll from SurveyUSA.

Trump beats Hillary Clinton 45 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent of voters undecided.

He wins a huge share of the Democrats’ non-white base — 25 percent of African Americans, 31 percent of Hispanics and 41 percent of the relatively small Asian vote.

?????
 
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Originally posted by justjoe:
^^^ Yahoo News?? Really?

"Yahoo News" has been on a campaign for weeks now of publishing anti-Trump articles. And puff pieces on Ben Carson. Yahoo News is Katie Couric. Need I say more?

As per Reuters, yeah, really. I take it you didn't actually read the article?
 
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Originally posted by justjoe:
^^^ Yahoo News?? Really?

"Yahoo News" has been on a campaign for weeks now of publishing anti-Trump articles. And puff pieces on Ben Carson. Yahoo News is Katie Couric. Need I say more?

As per Reuters, yeah, really. I take it you didn't actually read the article?


Of course not and the media counts on that.

Last week was island in Alaska disappearing due to climate change! Then is shows a couple of acres in the sea and says the word erosion about 20 times. The sheep only pick up CLIMATE CHANGE!

They have the game down pat. Our only option is to keep spreading truth. At least most people now know the media and political leaders are liars and full of shit.

So we get GO TRUMP!


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Bob Hope actually got it right 75 years ago...... Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOhcbtkCHtE

This is from a great comedy/thriller called "Ghost Breakers" (1940) that is seldom seen anymore due to what is considered by today's standards very un PC dialogue. This snippet has even been censored/edited on You Tube. There was a line removed. You can tell that the image jumps slightly...... The full clip is out there somewhere.
 
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Bob Hope actually got it right 75 years ago...... Wink


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Dems won't like this.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...on-shrinks-key-gaps/

Donald Trump has a clear path to the White House, according to a shocking new poll from SurveyUSA.

Trump beats Hillary Clinton 45 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent of voters undecided.

He wins a huge share of the Democrats’ non-white base — 25 percent of African Americans, 31 percent of Hispanics and 41 percent of the relatively small Asian vote.

?????

45 + 40 + 16 = 101%
Where did Clinton get that extra 1%? Big Grin


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45 + 40 + 16 = 101%
Where did Clinton get that extra 1%? Big Grin


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Originally posted by sdy:
Dems won't like this.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...on-shrinks-key-gaps/

Donald Trump has a clear path to the White House, according to a shocking new poll from SurveyUSA.

Trump beats Hillary Clinton 45 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent of voters undecided.

He wins a huge share of the Democrats’ non-white base — 25 percent of African Americans, 31 percent of Hispanics and 41 percent of the relatively small Asian vote.

?????

45 + 40 + 16 = 101%
Where did Clinton get that extra 1%? Big Grin
Chicago. Where dead people vote. Twice.



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