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[T]hey have to explain ....


I disagree because it assumes they are responsible people with some shred of integrity.

The news reading businesses don’t believe they’re under any obligation to explain, much less justify, any of their actions ever. They could start a mass panic by stating that a super volcano will destroy half the nation on 8 November, and on the 9th when everything is still here they could—and almost certainly would—simply ignore the fact of their statement. If the panic was deemed newsworthy enough to fill a few minutes of airtime, they would either ignore why it occurred or blame it on someone or something other than their prediction.




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I wonder how similar Hillary's statements are to Stalin's as he took the weapons from the boys after they got done defeating the Nazis.




 
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This election cycle is getting really weird:

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Homeland eyes special declaration to take charge of elections

http://www.washingtonexaminer....ions/article/2600592

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A Candidate's Death Could Delay or Eliminate the Presidential Election

http://www.washingtonexaminer....ions/article/2600592

I hope Trump has the best security money can buy.
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Trump weighs meeting in Mexico with Countries President

https://www.washingtonpost.com...51a2f424d_story.html


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Trump will speak in a few minutes in Everett, WA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfautohnMw

ETA: The crowd in Everett is estimated at over 13K.
 
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trump just told the crowd:

"we have some pretty quiet protestors today, the Bernie Sanders protesters had way more heart"

or something to that effect.

I also liked to mention that remember about july when they said "the Donald doesnt have a plan on how" (even though they overlooked Bama'rs hope n change) they sure arent talking about his plans he has been unveiling.



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Or, maybe they're counting on vote fraud to make up the difference?

I am VERY worried about this. I believe that if Trump loses, massive vote fraud will be the cause.

Virginia will have McAwful to thank for it.




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Trump Force One just flew over my cul-de-sac. Pretty quiet plane for its size.

I thought it had a military escort, but turns out FlightAware says it was a Cessna Twinjet heading for TriCities, WA. It's dark, so all I saw was a fast-moving, small jet. Strange that they let another plane take off 2 minutes before him, given the trouble they went to with the motorcade.

I swear, the motorcade must have had 100 motorcycles. When they arrived at Paine Field, they just kept coming and coming.

Some other jet not on FlightAware just zoomed overhead. Not sure what that was. Interesting how they keep these important flights off the tracking system.

Trump set a record for attendance at the Everett arena, something like 13k.
 
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Trump will speak in a few minutes in Everett, WA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfautohnMw

ETA: The crowd in Everett is estimated at over 13K.


As expected the media coverage couldn't be much more left-biased...hardly anything positive, and going so far as to illicit negative comments from the supporters inside the rally. Roll Eyes

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^^I wish I could have made it there. It would have been THE highlight of my year. Cool
 
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This should be interesting....Trump is going to MEXICO today to meet with Mexican President Nieto. That has to be one very nervous Secret Service detail.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...pena-nieto.html?_r=0

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Donald J. Trump will visit Mexico on Wednesday for a private meeting with President Enrique Peña Nieto — a trip that will take him to a nation he has repeatedly scorned — before quickly flying back for what is billed as a major immigration speech in Arizona.

Mr. Peña Nieto’s office said Tuesday night that the meeting would take place at the presidential palace in Mexico City, and Mr. Trump, on Twitter, said he looked “very much forward” to the visit.

The Mexican president’s office said Mr. Peña Nieto had sent invitations last week to both Mr. Trump and Hillary Clinton. The negotiations for both trips were first reported by The Washington Post. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign would not comment Tuesday on whether she had received the invitation.

Mr. Peña Nieto is reaching out to Mr. Trump in the face of the Republican candidate’s antagonistic attitude toward Mexico in his policies and campaign rallies. He has said many Mexican immigrants who enter the United States illegally are rapists, and he has repeatedly insisted that Mexico will pay for his proposed wall along the southern United States border.

He is widely reviled in Mexico, where the wall proposal has revived deep grievances over sovereignty and respect that have historically dogged Mexico’s relationship with the United States.

“They are not our friend, believe me,” Mr. Trump said in a speech last year in which he accused Mexico of treating the United States unfairly, “but they are killing us economically.”

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” he added. “They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some I assume are good people.”

Politicians in Mexico have largely remained silent on Mr. Trump, though there have been outbursts, including from Mr. Peña Nieto himself. In March, he compared Mr. Trump to Hitler and Mussolini for what he called Mr. Trump’s strident remarks and populism, though he later tried to soften his words without quite taking them back.

The trip will take place hours before Mr. Trump is to give a speech in Phoenix that is expected to clarify his stance on immigration, which has plagued his campaign over the past few weeks as he has wavered on key elements of his platform. His campaign has given conflicting signals over whether he will stick to the hard-line positions he took during the Republican primaries, particularly on deportations, and he suggested recently that he was open to “softening” some of his proposals. But his calls to have Mexico pay for the wall have continued.

The trip is the latest gamble for Mr. Trump and his struggling campaign. But for all the risk it poses, it offers an image Mr. Trump relishes: of a wily negotiator willing to do the unexpected — meeting with a perceived enemy — to advance his agenda.

It will also be his first official meeting with a head of state as the Republican presidential nominee.

Despite Mr. Trump’s routine scolding of Mexico and its leadership, several of his closest allies have warm ties with the country and its president. Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a top Trump adviser and confidant, traveled to Mexico in 2014 to meet with Mr. Peña Nieto, arguing that it was imperative for the United States to put Mexico at the center of its foreign relations.

During that trip, Mr. Christie offered lavish praise for Mr. Peña Nieto’s market-oriented policies and, unlike Mr. Trump, spoke of the need to cultivate stronger ties with Mexico.

“Too often, our neighbors in Mexico and Canada have felt that they were an afterthought in U.S. foreign policy,” he said. “My view is that they should be our first thought.”

A person briefed on the trip discussions said that Mr. Christie, who leads Mr. Trump’s transition team, had helped with them.

Mexico’s disaffection with Mr. Trump began early in his campaign, when he said, among other things, that the immigrants entering the United States illegally from Mexico were criminals. From that point on, columns, articles and public forums have been filled with anti-Trump tirades, his words galvanizing Mexicans across the social spectrum.

Artisans have fashioned Trump piñatas, and former President Vicente Fox has made it his mission to rebuke Mr. Trump’s every word, to name but two of the rejoinders from Mexican society. Last year, writers, intellectuals and scientists from across the Spanish-speaking world wrote a public letter denouncing Mr. Trump and accusing him of xenophobia.

Mr. Peña Nieto’s finance minister has said that under no circumstances would Mexico pay for a border wall.

Andrew Selee, the executive vice president of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and a Mexico expert, said Mexico’s motivation to invite Mr. Trump might simply have been pragmatic.

“I think the Mexican government wants channels with whoever is going to be president of the U.S. next, and Trump is a legitimate candidate,” Mr. Selee said. “And from a political perspective, Peña Nieto getting Trump to come to Mexico shows that Trump has been forced to shift some of his rhetoric and take Mexico seriously.”

But considering how often Mr. Trump comes up in conversation in Mexico, and the uniform insult felt by the nation every time he talks about the wall, the government has remained disciplined in their public statements. That is in part a political decision: Officials feel that any responses will do little but provide more publicity for the candidate.

For Mr. Peña Nieto, though, the politics could be difficult. His poll numbers are the lowest of any Mexican president in a quarter-century.
 
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All of the major polls have shown a yuge surge for Trump in the past week. One that a lot of liberal sites liked to quote last week is the Reuters/IPSOS poll, which was showing Hillary leading by up to 12 points. Today? They are tied in that poll and, not surprisingly, the sites that were posting it daily last week have removed it from their websites.....

http://polling.reuters.com/#!p...sed/true/spotlight/1
 
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Trump is in Mexico today. In regard to the US-Mexico border fence, remember that old saw: "Good fences make good neighbors."



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The MSM is absolutely livid today that Trump is in Mexico and looking presidential. The excuses they are manufacturing for the visit are nothing short of humorous. It's been fun to watch. The NYT and CNN in particular are fuming with hatred today.

Update: Nieto says his meeting with Trump was "very open, frank, and constructive." They held a joint press conference after meeting and the reporters onsite said both seemed genuinely pleased with the talks.

Hillary hasn't had many good days lately. This was a very bad one.

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The excuses they are manufacturing for the visit are nothing short of humorous.
Such as?
 
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The excuses they are manufacturing for the visit are nothing short of humorous.
Such as?


The ones I read just a few minutes ago were:

- He's going because he's losing.
- Going because he knows his immigration stance isn't feasible and he wants an "out."
- Going because his campaign is desperate for attention.
- Going because Christie has told him that he can't win if he keeps beating the "anti Mexico" drum.

And the one I just saw from Hillary's first public event in 6 days:

- Trump should not be inconveniencing foreign Heads of State with last-minute photo-op's.
 
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BO went all over Europe when he was campaigning for president and MSM thought it was great.
 
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Going to Louisiana and now to Mexico are brilliant moves. Hillary is dead in the water, going nowhere, doing nothing. Trump is taking charge. A leader.

Pay no attention to "the media." There is no "media."

Trump is winning, and everybody-- everybody-- knows it.


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I'm looking forward to Part II tonight, Trump's speech in Arizona. Part I in Mexico City, he seemed subdued and cautious in my opinion and was careful about what he said. He can claim a victory, though, in that he pretty much got the Mexican President to agree to the wall as long as it works both ways, leaving the issue of who pays for it for a later meeting.

I suspect Trump bent Nieto over backwards on NAFTA, even though that wasn't said in the press conference. Nieto knows we aren't happy with the current law and will renegotiate it.


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Two things stand out with DT recently; his immediate Baton Rouge visit and lasting impression on the people there, and meeting with Ramos - on the very day that a woman president is removed from office.
 
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The president of Mexico meeting with him is pretty telling. He thinks Trump can win.




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