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^ indeed. perhaps it's true, that those in the know could tell Ryan wasn't going to lose his seat to the challenger, and since he's staying Trump may as well "support" him since he'll have to deal with the slimy fucker. It's pragmatic, if nothing else.
 
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It's pragmatic, if nothing else.

Yes, he had to do it.

Just a day before, Chris Cillizza gave four steps for Trump to change his strategy–the long-awaited “pivot” to a win.

1. Endorse Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. Cast himself as the uniter of the Republican party — and show it’s more than talk.
2. Stop doing so many media interviews. Trump is constantly sitting for some interview or other, and, often, contradicting himself and the party in the process. Less is more.
3. Find a message and stick to it. That message should be: a) Supreme Court b) change vs more of the same and c) Hillary can’t be trusted. But, almost any message might work — as long as Trump actually stuck to it.
4. Stop picking dumb fights. The back and forth with the Khans was both unwinnable and incredibly un-strategic. If you are in the polling position Trump is, you can’t afford to give away a week fighting a fight you have no chance of winning.

Still, Paul Ryan has become a slimy, faux- conservative globalist:
Globalist Maestro Paul Ryan Strikes Again
http://www.americanthinker.com...n_strikes_again.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Former deputy CIA Director Michael Morell has endorsed Clinton.

Morell attacked Trump: “not only unqualified for the job, but he may well pose a threat to our national security.”

keep in mind Morell's actions at CIA during Benghazi:

http://nypost.com/2016/08/05/t...hazi-talking-points/

After Susan Rice’s outlandish claims on the Sunday talk shows that the Benghazi attacks began as a spontaneous protest over a “hateful” YouTube video, Congress began asking where she had gotten that information. This is how lawmakers discovered that the intelligence community had drafted her talking points, with input from the White House and Hillary Clinton’s staff.

Early drafts of the talking points included a mention of al Qaeda. But that reference was removed in the final drafts. Sen. Lindsay Graham explained to me what happened next.

“On Nov. 27, 2012, Morell and Susan Rice came into my office,” he told me. “I asked Morell who changed [the talking points]. He said, the FBI deleted the reference to al Qaeda because of an ongoing criminal investigation. So I called the FBI. They said, no, they didn’t change the talking points. They were furious.”

Apparently, that was an understatement: Someone at a senior level at FBI called the CIA to protest directly. Graham continued the story: “At 4 p.m. that day, CIA called me and said Morell ‘mis-spoke’ in his meeting with me, and that CIA deleted [the reference to al Qaeda], but they couldn’t give a reason why.”

Graham thought the reason was obvious: “If the truth had been known that al Qaeda killed four Americans seven weeks before an election, it would have been a different political story.”

Remember what Obama and his surrogates were saying? “Osama is dead, GM is alive.” That was their campaign mantra.

In fact, it was Morell himself who made those changes.
Morell subsequently testified before the House Select Committee on Intelligence, and eventually before the Benghazi Select Committee

He ultimately claimed he believed news reports calling the Benghazi attacks a protest gone wild were more credible than repeated e-mails and cables from his own station chief in Libya insisting there had never been a protest.

It was an admission of gross incompetence — or partisanship. But that was the party line Clinton was putting out.

Morell was rewarded after the 2012 election. When he retired from CIA, Morell took a position with Beacon Global Strategies, a company cofounded by Andrew Shapiro and Philippe Reines, members of Hillary Clinton’s inner circle at the State Department.
 
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Bill Kristol (is there a more hateful toad in politics?) says that Ryan is secretly working against Trump. It seems plausible, despite the fact that Kristol said it.

If Trump wins, many scores will be settled.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...ker-paul-ryan-krist/


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Hmmm, last week Reuters showed Clinton up like 8 points.
Today? Clinton up 3.

The sample size was 1500 likely voters.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-...s-less-three-points/

While the media attempted to shape the news, eh, maybe not so much with respect to the polls.


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As Dillon Precision put it some years ago, Vote like a gun owner. If you don’t this time, you may never have another chance to do anything as a gun owner.


I went looking for that statement from Dillon.

Best I can tell, it comes from the August 2000 issue of the Blue Press. Click here for a the article on TheHighRoad.

(I hope I'm not violating the rules by providing that link. If so, I'll gladly edit.)




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Well......not many comments about those who think Ryan is a POS politician. And wow, Trump endorsed him. What does that make Trump? Smile


Trump is someone that has decided to keep his friends close, and his enemies closer!

Ryan is a POS, if you think he is working in the best interest of WI and/or US citizens interest, you are sadly mistaken. Ryan is out there ranting on some of the stuff Trump is saying aren't conservative values, as if giving the Democrat president 100% budget for all his progressive nonsense is a "conservative" value. As if not endorsing the presidential candidate is a conservative value, as if undermining the presidential candidate is a conservative value.

It is up to WI voters to get rid of Lyin-Ryan, AZ McShit-stain, SC Gramnesty etc. If we don't get rid of the RINO's than they are back in office.




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I'm calling bullshit on the recent poll showing Ryan way ahead Nehlen. No fucking way was the polling data not manipulated. It could have been a close race. It still might be.

By Trump kissing the ring of Ryan/McConnell/McStain et al, he is making a Faustian bargain. Trump could have campaigned against those douschebags, & their (actual) conservative challengers might have won. All he has to do is say "weak career policians must go" & the people are with him.

You can bet your ass if Trump wins, & proceeds to build the wall, deport illegals, or stop Muslim immigration, these RINOs fucksticks will block every attempt they can. If he would support their challengers & clean house, we might have a chance. The RINO career politicians are exactly that, career politicians. They rose to the top by backstabbing, corruption, & payoffs. They will continue doing that until they leave office or die.

This deal makes Trump a "deal maker" & "pragmatist". Thats not really what his voters want. This also gives voice to those who have cautioned us about Trump making deals instead of pushing for his campaign promises. I'm gonna be pissed if he doesn't build a wall, stop illegal/Muslim immigration, or signs any laws restricting firearms. Anything else, meh whatever. He's still way better then Shillary.

Mark my words. These RINOs will fuck over Trump every chance they get, until booted from office. Trump will not have their support as soon as the tide of this deal recedes.
 
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No.... only in this campaign would it even be a story for the Republican candidate to endorse the Republican Speaker of the House, the highest ranking Republican. Yes... He needs allies, especially now.


I seem to recall that ryan refused to endorse Trump. And was working to prevent Trump from getting the nomination. Further, he has been carrying water for the democraPs for quite a while. AIR, he also does nothing to stop or even slow down the invasion of illegals into this country.

It is one of my fondest hopes that ryan gets thrown out in the primary.


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I don't necessarily disagree, but I suspect he weighed the options at this juncture and found that he's stuck with them for now, the operative words being:

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until booted from office


He's not even President yet; I suspect that's the focus, before going to battle with Ryan, et al.
 
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He's not even President yet; I suspect that's the focus, before going to battle with Ryan, et al.

Exactly.
As shown above, Ryan has been a weak leader at best, a sell-out at worst.... but Trump has to try to unify the party if he wants to beat Hillary. He is only polling in the 70s with Republicans and do you remember criticizing the 2 million or so Republicans who stayed home, refusing to vote for Romney? Romney got over 90% of Republicans.

Hillary is the enemy. Ryan is or should be an ally, even if he's weak.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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IMO, the greatest number of potential voters that Trump could hope to gain are not establishment Republican supporters, he will never get their support. He stands to gain the most from people who have not voted in recent years, due to disenfranchisement with career politicians (from both party's) selling them out. By agreeing to support those very same career politicians, he is alienating the votes of those who are anti-politicians. Which I think are the majority of potential Trump supporters.
 
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Here's an aside after doing doing some reading re: WI. Seems politically Trump had little to gain by not endorsing Ryan. Wisconsin R primary went along the lines of:

Ted Cruz: 531,129 votes, 48.2%,
Donald Trump: 386,290 votes, 35.1%,
John Kasich: 155,200 votes, 14.1%,

Ryan, while maybe not popular nationally w/ conservatives, is going to win his seat w/o any effort. Not endorsing Ryan, wasn't going to change the outcome. Trump has more to gain in WI & nationally by endorsing Ryan than not. He could make a point in not making the endorsement, but similar to Cruzs' stunt at the convention, there is a better time & place to make a point down the road, after the elections are over. Just my .02
 
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This could be another nail in Hillary's coffin. Big Grin

Gary Johnson endorses #BlackLivesMatter

http://redalertpolitics.com/20...es-blacklivesmatter/
 
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Yes, it probably is a net negative for Hillary.
Bernie fans have more reason to look at Gary Johnson and some unhappy Republicans who are going the Johnson way as a protest vote may rethink voting for him.

Is Johnson really a Libertarian?


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The National Fraternal Order of Police asks candidates to fill out questionnaires to allow them to determine their choice for endorsement.

Donald Trump has completed his questionnaire, but they never heard back from Hillary.

Instead, her staff finally responded with a “thanks but no thanks” response, making it the first such snub since John Kerry in 2004. (Barack Obama responded in both 2008 and 2012, according to Canterbury.)

http://hotair.com/archives/201...lice-union-get-lost/
 
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Incredible.


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Gary Johnson endorses #BlackLivesMatter


If this hurts Hillary fine, but Johnson is an idiot. Crawls out from under his rock every 4 years stranger than the previous election cycle.




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Is Johnson really a Libertarian?


He's a loon as far as I can tell.


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Johnson is an idiot. What happened to him? Last go round, he seemed to be at least a decent Liberterian. The shit he has said this cycle is NOT Libertarian. His VP is not Libertarian. He has plum jumped the shark. Too bad really, this is an election cycle where the Libertarians could have gained ground & made an impact.
 
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