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A lot of speculation about something that hasn't even happened yet. How about wait and see.


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There's Always a bigger band-aid...




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Originally posted by gw3971:
Trump Jr there was damned impressive. Best speech of the convention so far? maybe...


IMO, the kid has a bright future in Politics.


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Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
A lot of speculation about something that hasn't even happened yet. How about wait and see.


^^^^Yes, this.

Bigboreshooter, your perpetual anti-Cruz rant is like salt being rubbed into an open sore. It does NOT promote unity, rather it just pisses off those of us who think Cruz was the better candidate and are now hoping for the best from Trump.

Cruz isn't the enemy.

Clinton is. Let's get united behind THAT.

Got it?


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Oh stewardess,
I speak jive.
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To anyone paying attention, it's obvious how the Anderson article and various other bits of commentary from other sources are ultimately aimed at trying to separate Cruz from the #NeverTrump mess and paint him more as a victim (more so than is accurate, and they know it), and basically continuing to make the case for Cruz - but now for next time, both in general and in terms of still trying to cast doubt on the chances of Trump this time, though more backhandedly than before - as some sort of half hearted and indirect support.

It's little more than thinly veiled Cruz campaigning, still, with a smattering of thinly veiled bullshit, mixed with some valid and separate points to add some sense of legitimacy.

Losers. And sore losers at that. More of the same - little factions of selfish wackos...

The Cruz campaign need only look in the mirror and honestly assess themselves and their decisions to know exactly why they came in a distant second, and it's their own damn fault. But they continue to whine, albeit via pseudo clever attempts to shift the narrative and blame, via more bullshit. We don't know whether Trump will win or not, but if he doesn't, it most certainly doesn't mean Cruz would have or could have, and you can already see their hamster wheels turning as they try to remain relevant and sell it...

It is pathetic, and obvious, and not helping America at all.
 
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Originally posted by 46and2:
To anyone paying attention, it's obvious how the Anderson article and various other bits of commentary from other sources are ultimately aimed at trying to separate Cruz from the #NeverTrump mess and paint him more as a victim (more so than is accurate, and they know it), and basically continuing to make the case for Cruz - but now for next time, both in general and in terms of still trying to cast doubt on the chances of Trump this time, though more backhandedly than before - as some sort of half hearted and indirect support.

It's little more than thinly veiled Cruz campaigning, still, with a smattering of thinly veiled bullshit, mixed with some valid and separate points to add some sense of legitimacy.

Losers. And sore losers at that. More of the same - little factions of selfish wackos...

The Cruz campaign need only look in the mirror and honestly assess themselves and their decisions to know exactly why they came in a distant second, and it's their own damn fault. But they continue to whine, albeit via pseudo clever attempts to shift the narrative and blame, via more bullshit. We don't know whether Trump will win or not, but if he doesn't, it most certainly doesn't mean Cruz would have or could have, and you can already see their hamster wheels turning as they try to remain relevant and sell it...

It is pathetic, and obvious, and not helping America at all.


Really? I usually agree with what you post, 46and2, but not this.

I think Anderson was spot-on, particularly with his point #4.

We have Trump. We must make the best of what we have. What does it profit us to continue to pick and bitch at each other, almost like a snake swallowing its own tail?

Can't we quit this internecine nonsense and focus our ire at the Democrat candidate?


Thanks,

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Thanks, Sap.
46and2, are you trying to promote unity?
If so... find another approach.



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I wish Lt. Col. Ralph Peters had been invited to speak his mind again about Zippy and the Beast.
 
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Cruz isn't the enemy.

Clinton is. Let's get united behind THAT.

And he is helping defeat Hillary how, exactly? I haven't seen him lift a finger so far.

It's a serious question. I was a Cruz supporter before I became a Trump supporter. I've never been more disappointed in a candidate than with Cruz during these primaries.

He could help to defeat Hillary, but so far he hasn't done a thing to help. Why is that?



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Kasich continues to be a total ass.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-push-for-unity.html

Though not officially involved in the four-day convention, Kasich has worked the fringes all week -- giving speeches that include thinly veiled criticisms of Trump.

“I’m thrilled to be in Cleveland, but it’s not where I need to go because [the platform] is not what I stood for throughout the campaign,” Kasich said at a speech before the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
 
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^^^

Folks (forum members) in Ohio have the opportunity (dare I say; "duty") to rally friends, family acquaintances and anyone else to "Kick Kasich to the Curb".

And remember this self serving prick in the future.

He should be lucky to be a Dog Catcher's assistant after his term expires in 2018.




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Kasich continues to be a total ass.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-push-for-unity.html

Though not officially involved in the four-day convention, Kasich has worked the fringes all week -- giving speeches that include thinly veiled criticisms of Trump.

“I’m thrilled to be in Cleveland, but it’s not where I need to go because [the platform] is not what I stood for throughout the campaign,” Kasich said at a speech before the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

Plus one. STFU with that shit and deliver Ohio dumbass.


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Laura Ingraham nails it.

Trump Embarrasses the Old Guard

The Clintons haven't lost to a Republican in 36 years, so why should he listen to the losers?

by Laura Ingraham | Updated 20 Jul 2016 at 10:55 AM

Hillary has never lost to a Republican.

The Republicans have lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections.

They lost California all six times.

They lost New York all six times.

In the last presidential election, the Romney campaign had a massive computer program called ORCA that was supposed to help them track voters on Election Day. It didn’t work.

In the last presidential election, Karl Rove thought Romney was going to carry Ohio. He did not.

In this presidential election, the Republicans sent 16 candidates at Donald Trump. He beat them all. He crushed Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio in their home states.

And yet somehow, all of these Republican commentators claim to know how to beat Hillary Clinton? Hillary has been running circles around these people for years. She has never lost to them. Why would we take their advice on how to beat Hillary?


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“I’m thrilled to be in Cleveland, but it’s not where I need to go because [the platform] is not what I stood for throughout the campaign,” Kasich said at a speech before the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

and now we have:

The U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce announced its support for presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton on Wednesday in its first-ever presidential endorsement.

"We are at the Republican convention to announce that we proudly endorse Hillary Clinton for president of the United States," he said. "We believe she's the best person for the job. She's got experience. She's got the temperament and track record."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo...oup-endorses-clinton
 
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L.A. Times Suggests Military Coup Against President Trump


http://www.breitbart.com/calif...sts-president-trump/

Jamie Kirchick, writing in the Los Angeles Times, asks readers to imagine a military coup against a future President Donald Trump — and argues why one would be necessary.

Kirchick cites the example of the recent failed coup in Turkey as a source of inspiration:

Americans viewing the recent failed coup attempt in Turkey as some exotic foreign news story — the latest, violent yet hardly unusual political development to occur in a region constantly beset by turmoil — should pause to consider that the prospect of similar instability would not be unfathomable in this country if Donald Trump were to win the presidency.

Kirchick goes on to argue that Trump is a nascent authoritarian, whose illegal military orders — such as torturing terrorists — the military would be required to ignore, and then resist by force.

Curiously, Kirchick cannot fathom Hillary Clinton doing anything illegal with the military (despite her mis-handling of classified national security information, or her evident pride in the Libya war, which Congress never approved):

Needless to say, such dystopian situations are unimaginable under a President Hillary Clinton, who, whatever her faults, would never contemplate ordering a bombing run or — heaven forbid — a nuclear strike on a country just because its leader slighted her small hands at a summit.

Kirchick concludes that unless voters stop Trump from becoming president, a violent coup may be the only solution: “Trump is not only patently unfit to be president, but a danger to America and the world. Voters must stop him before the military has to.”



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483 pages, a sealed nomination, and were still talking about cruz vs trump...



I know you guys dont want hillary, back the nominee or suffer the consequences



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"There isn't a Band-Aid big enough" to heal the hurt that erupted Monday, said Cruz supporter Ivette Lozano of Dallas. But she was looking ahead.
Cry me a freakin' river.


if she was talking ahead, why are her words in the past tense?? PBS-- Political Bull Shit.
 
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L.A. Times Suggests Military Coup Against President Trump


http://www.breitbart.com/calif...sts-president-trump/

Jamie Kirchick, writing in the Los Angeles Times, asks readers to imagine a military coup against a future President Donald Trump — and argues why one would be necessary.

Kirchick cites the example of the recent failed coup in Turkey as a source of inspiration:

Americans viewing the recent failed coup attempt in Turkey as some exotic foreign news story — the latest, violent yet hardly unusual political development to occur in a region constantly beset by turmoil — should pause to consider that the prospect of similar instability would not be unfathomable in this country if Donald Trump were to win the presidency.

Kirchick goes on to argue that Trump is a nascent authoritarian, whose illegal military orders — such as torturing terrorists — the military would be required to ignore, and then resist by force.

Curiously, Kirchick cannot fathom Hillary Clinton doing anything illegal with the military (despite her mis-handling of classified national security information, or her evident pride in the Libya war, which Congress never approved):

Needless to say, such dystopian situations are unimaginable under a President Hillary Clinton, who, whatever her faults, would never contemplate ordering a bombing run or — heaven forbid — a nuclear strike on a country just because its leader slighted her small hands at a summit.

Kirchick concludes that unless voters stop Trump from becoming president, a violent coup may be the only solution: “Trump is not only patently unfit to be president, but a danger to America and the world. Voters must stop him before the military has to.”

Talk about detached from reality.


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There may or not be one with Trump in office.

But I guaran-fucking-tee there will be one if Hillary is in office.

Trump - small risk of severe corruption. Hillary -- very probable risk of tyranny. I'd pick the former twice on Sunday.




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http://townhall.com/columnists...-off-a-coup-n2194785 While the article is written about Obama, it holds just as true to any politician no matter the party persuasion. USA is too big (geographically and demographically) to make it successful.


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