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Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. |
Please do, ibexsig | |||
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Partial dichotomy |
Yeah, I'm not really happy with his answer, but how much should be left up to interpretation? | |||
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safe & sound |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't you know? It's much better to have a candidate tell you exactly what you want to hear and then do the complete opposite, than somebody who actually gives answers that give you some indication where they really stand. We also know that Trump isn't a conservative. We have known this for a long time, so some people need to stop with the drama queen act everytime he says something that's not right of Reagan. I swear. The Titanic is taking on water, and some people are more concerned about making sure all of the housekeeper's time cards have been properly filled out. | |||
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Info Guru |
I suppose you are referring to me since I posted the article - I'm not freaking out or being dramatic at all. It's called vetting the candidates and evaluating where they stand on the issues. With someone that has no public record you kinda have to go by what they say. I'm not going to shut my eyes and put my fingers in my ears and just run with the crowd, I'm going to listen to what the candidates say and look at their record, who they have supported, what they have done, etc. so I can be informed. YMMV. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Please keep all freaking out to a minimum. When it comes time to freak out, you'll know it. | |||
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safe & sound |
No. Just people in general. I see it constantly in the forum. "He's not a conservative". Yes. He's already said that himself, a long time ago. He's very conservative on some things, not so much on others. Middle of the road if you will. Average American in some cases. I believe this is why he has so much support from both sides. He's not left, he's not right, he's (for the most part) middle of the road.
Compared to most of those with public records where you can't go by what they say at all, because what they say and what their record is are usually opposite of one another. | |||
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Info Guru |
The sky is falling!!! “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Info Guru |
Exactly - with established politicians you can compare what they say with what they have actually done. That was Rubio's downfall. Talk tough all you want, but stand on the stage with Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer and push a bill backed by Obama and you kinda lose all credibility. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Diogenes' Quarry |
Guess it was inevitable: GOP FREE-FOR-ALL: Trump takes back pledge to support GOP choice in Nov.; Cruz, Kasich noncommittal http://www.foxnews.com/politic...rt.html?intcmp=hpbt1 I'd ask what to make of candidates who lack the honor to follow through on a pledge, a promise to the public/party, but I suppose the concept of honor is somewhat moot this election season. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Middle of the road? My jaw is hitting the floor. This has nothing to do with saying Trump isn't conservative enough. That answer--saying two of the top three functions of government is healthcare and education--is a straight up commie answer. And you're saying he's just an average, middle of the road American? ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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safe & sound |
Honor is a two way street. You can't play fair when the other side wants to cheat. | |||
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I'm Different! |
"I think she would have pressed charges anyway because I think she likes it," Trump said on NBC. Wow. I'll vote for the idiot because he is slightly less dangerous than the corrupt lying Hillary. Only slightly, but god help us all. “Agnostic, gun owning, conservative, college educated hillbilly” | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Calm Blue Ocean, people. Calm Blue Ocean | |||
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Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Me, too. Seems to me that he got to believing his own semi-hysterical crap. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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Banned |
So, what established Republican politician has DONE anything that they have SAID they would do? Because all I ever hear from established Repub politicians is lip service to conservative ideas, that is completely inconsistent with their actions. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I admit, I only catch Levin here and there and briefly on the radio nowadays, and I have noticed some of what you guys are saying. He certainly seems to have gotten very angry as of late if nothing else. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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God will always provide |
"Border Patrol Link" National Border Patrol Council Endorses Trump for President The full statement from the NBPC: March 30, 2016 The National Border Patrol Council is the official organization representing our nation’s Border Patrol Agents. We represent 16,500 agents who selflessly serve this country in an environment where our own political leaders try to keep us from doing our jobs. The NBPC has had a longstanding practice of not endorsing presidential candidates in the primaries. We will not, however, shy away from voicing our opinions as it pertains to border security and the men and women of the United States Border Patrol. As such, we are breaking with our past practice and giving our first-ever endorsement in a presidential primary. We think it is that important: if we do not secure our borders, American communities will continue to suffer at the hands of gangs, cartels and violent criminals preying on the innocent. The lives and security of the American people are at stake, and the National Border Patrol Council will not sit on the sidelines. As an organization we expect our elected officials to aggressively pursue the interests of the country. America has already tried a young, articulate freshman senator who never created a job as an attorney and under whose watch criminal cartels have been given the freest border reign ever known. Unlike his opponents, Donald Trump is not a career politician, he is an outsider who has created thousands of jobs, pledged to bring about aggressive pro-American change, and who is completely independent of special interests. We don’t need a person who has the perfect Washington-approved tone, and certainly NOT another establishment politician in the W.H. Indeed, the fact that people are more upset about Mr. Trump’s tone than about the destruction wrought by open borders tells us everything we need to know about the corruption in Washington. We need a person in the White House who doesn’t fear the media, who doesn’t embrace political correctness, who doesn’t need the money, who is familiar with success, who won’t bow to foreign dictators, who is pro-military and values law enforcement, and who is angry for America and NOT subservient to the interests of other nations. Donald Trump is such a man. Mr. Trump is as bold and outspoken as other world leaders who put their country’s interests ahead of all else. Americans deserve to benefit for once instead of always paying and apologizing. Our current political establishment has bled this country dry, sees their power evaporating, and isn’t listening to voters who do all the heavy lifting. Trump is opposed by the established powers specifically because they know he is the only candidate who actually threatens the established powers that have betrayed this country. You can judge a man by his opponents: all the people responsible for the problems plaguing America today are opposing Mr. Trump. It is those without political power – the workers, the law enforcement officers, the everyday families and community members – who are supporting Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump will take on special interests and embrace the ideas of rank-and-file Border Patrol agents rather than listening to the management yes-men who say whatever they are programmed to say. This is a refreshing change that we have not seen before – and may never see again. Mr. Trump is correct when he says immigration wouldn’t be at the forefront of this presidential campaign if months ago he hadn’t made some bold and necessary statements. And when the withering media storm ensued he did not back down one iota. That tells you the measure of a man. When the so-called experts said he was too brash and outspoken, and that he would fade away, they were proven wrong. We are confident they will be proven wrong again in November when he becomes President of the United States. There is no greater physical or economic threat to Americans today than our open border. And there is no greater political threat than the control of Washington by special interests. In view of these threats, the National Border Patrol Council endorses Donald J. Trump for President – and asks the American people to support Mr. Trump in his mission to finally secure the border of the United States of America, before it is too late. Sincerely, Brandon Judd President National Border Patrol Council | |||
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Chip away the stone |
Hey, 40% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Socialism, after all I wish I could say I was shocked when I saw Trump give that answer, but I'm not. He struggled to come up with priorities 2 and 3, and when he finally did, they were both turds. | |||
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Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Normally I would agree with you. Having said that, consider that the GOPe has been changing the rules, continues to change the rules with a specific intent to deny him the nomination! Once they started that crap, Trump was no longer required to abide by an oath that he took before they started changing those rules. Oaths and honor are a 2 way street. Both parties are required to keep their part of the bargain. The GOPe has decided that lying, collusion, behind the scenes plans for the ambush, are all business as usual. Consider: You and someone else enter into a contract that requires each of you to do certain things. The other party decides to ignore his responsibility under the contract. Are you still required to meet your responsibility? Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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safe & sound |
I know everybody has their fantasy of what should be, but the reality is that this his "commie answer" is our current situation. No?
Indeed. I bet there is at least 20% of our population that would be willing to send conservatives to re-education camps. | |||
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