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Originally posted by Czechvar:
Paul Ryan has been a real disappointment...This crap he threw up sounds exactly like a Dem tactic. Something entirely fabricated and he's talking like it's a serious issue. What a loser...

When you look in the encyclopedia for a description of RINO, it will probably have a picture of that moron. Remember all the water he carried for the GDCAIC in getting the funding package pushed through?

Talk about chicanery!!!!!1

Just like all the water carried for the GDCAIC by Rubio! All behind the scenes, of course.

This is getting into Twilight Zone territory.

Rubio's campaign manager briefed Rubio top supporters and explained their "convention strategy".

"It was a presentation that defied reality," said one Rubio backer. "They said their convention strategy was not contingent on winning any states ..

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...super-tuesday-220046

what was the title of the brief? Had to be "How to steal the election"

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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:
^^^ I'll tell everyone how I voted today....I voted for Cruz, but if this underhanded shit plays out and Trump is denied the nomination, I will vote for Hillary....and every other Democratic candidate after that.

You won't have to. Trump would go third party, and he'll probably come in second with the establishment pick to be named later getting third. I doubt their pick would be Rubio and certainly not Cruz. I like to think both are patriotic enough that they would refuse to participate in that kind of manipulation.

It would also be the end of the Republican party as we know it. They might not think so, but it's hard to imagine how this would not drive a permanent wedge between the establishment kingmakers and the base. If they can't see that, then they truly are deaf and blind. Ultimately, the elites need the base. The base does not need the elites. They hate that, but the proof is right in front of them.

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I doubt their pick would be Rubio

please read my post just before yours

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Originally posted by jigray3:

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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:
^^^ I'll tell everyone how I voted today....I voted for Cruz, but if this underhanded shit plays out and Trump is denied the nomination, I will vote for Hillary....and every other Democratic candidate after that.

You won't have to. Trump would go third party, and he'll probably come in second with the establishment pick to be named later getting third. I doubt their pick would be Rubio and certainly not Cruz. I like to think both are patriotic enough that they would refuse to participate in that kind of manipulation.

It would also be the end of the Republican party as we know it. They might not think so, but it's hard to imagine how this would not drive a permanent wedge between the establishment kingmakers and the base. If they can't see that, then they truly are deaf and blind. Ultimately, the elites need the base. The base does not need the elites. They hate that, but the proof is right in front of them.

The GOPe is going to bank on peoples hatred of Hillary and Bernie as enough to get their "candidate" elected.

They learned nothing from short term history. The hatred of Obama was not enough to bring people to the polls to vote for Romney. If they pull their shit this time then the hate will be directed at them along with Dems.

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Originally posted by sdy:

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I doubt their pick would be Rubio

please read my post just before yours

I saw that. Campaign operatives are among the slimiest most unprincipled creatures on the planet, and that's where this so called plan originates. They will say or do anything to win. I know Rubio is politician, but unless I have misread him completely, it's hard to imagine he would sign off on that kind of "strategy".

Think about this scenario for a minute:

If the GOP dishonors its electorate and nominates Not-Trump, the odds of Hillary winning go up astronomically, no matter if Trump runs a third-party race or not.

Now, look to 2020. How easy would it be for Trump to unseat Hillary? Considering that Obama got re-elected despite his being a colossal failure, it would be nearly impossible. However, if the GOP wins in 2016 by running Not-Trump, Donald could come back in 2020 and stand a decent chance of overturning the party choice in the primary races.

I hate to say it, but I'll stand by my earlier comment that I'll vote Republican no matter who the candidate is.

The GOPe can go ahead and christen Rubio...and my ink stick will follow me into the voting booth. As Mr. Gump said, "I'm not a smart man", but I know how to spell TRUMP.

Not that they care. Hilary, Rubio, all the same to them. They win either way.

That being said, let's see what happens. Although I am not overly optimistic. Until McConnel and Ryan start losing their own elections, it will be business as usual.

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let's see what happens

That's probably a good idea. No sense fighting battles that may never happen. If we have a legitimate clear winner there well may be a powerful ground swell to unite, no matter who it is. Let's all hope so.

Just came back from voting, and as I was walking out a guy walking beside me casually said "Do you think those guys holding signs for Trump are being paid to be here? How could they do that?"

I had to bite my lip to not tell him I voted for Trump.

There were people campaigning at your polling place?

Limbaugh

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/da...ut_what_they_ve_done

I didn't think it was possible, but the GOP establishment is panicked even further. They're now just out of their gourd. And you know what? They're getting a bunch of leftists to join them in their supposed fear of what will happen to the GOP if Donald Trump gets the nomination.

Now, one thing about this I've never understood, but I think now it's coming into focus, I have never understood, like at that now famous dinner that I had with Chuck Schumer and Lindsey Graham in New York where they tried to pitch me on amnesty, the Gang of Eight bill, and I steadfastly refused. Schumer kept talking to me about the future of the Republican Party was over if they didn't join the momentum for the Gang of Eight, if they didn't try to secure the Hispanic population vote by supporting amnesty and the Gang of Eight bill.

And I remember saying to Senator Schumer, "Do you really care that the Republican Party wins the White House? I mean, that's not what you want. You'd be happy if they never won the White House. So what is this?" And in this whole campaign now we've got people, both parties, but they all -- this is the key -- they all happen to be members of the establishment. They're all professing to be paranoid to one degree or another over what will become of the GOP if Trump gets the nomination.

And the original question still holds. Why are all these liberals in the news media, the Democrat Party, in the pop culture, wherever you find them, why are they so concerned that the GOP might fail to exist? Why are they so concerned that the GOP might be destroyed? And, of course, the answer is, given the current structure, the Democrat Party loves the GOP as it's currently constituted and as it currently operates.

The GOP has practically conceded to being a second-tier party.
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long story a lot very similar to the "Thunderdome: Gone Savage For Trump" article

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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:
^^^ I'll tell everyone how I voted today....I voted for Cruz, but if this underhanded shit plays out and Trump is denied the nomination, I will vote for Hillary....and every other Democratic candidate after that.

I can't believe the shit I'm reading with some of you guys.

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Originally posted by sdy:
This is getting into Twilight Zone territory.

Rubio's campaign manager briefed Rubio top supporters and explained their "convention strategy".

"It was a presentation that defied reality," said one Rubio backer. "They said their convention strategy was not contingent on winning any states ..

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...super-tuesday-220046

what was the title of the brief? Had to be "How to steal the election"

The pigs are being driven from the deep trough where they have been gorging for a long time now. They don't want to go.

Will they try to "broker the convention?" i.e. steal the nomination? They are greedy, hungry little bastards, so they might try anything. Even if they know it is probably suicidal, in desperation they might take the chance.

What is the minimum distance allowed for them from the doors of the polling place?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
There were people campaigning at your polling place?

Just sign holders, that's about it. They can't hand out flyers or anything as far as I know. And they have to stay a certain number of yards from the entrance.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
What is the minimum distance allowed for them from the doors of the polling place?

Just looked it up. In Mass it's 150'.

It seems to me that this would sway no one and the signs might serve as a catalyst for a confrontation.

150 feet? I guess that's not too bad.

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It seems to me that this would sway no one and the signs might serve as a catalyst for a confrontation.

Perhaps in some areas, although in my experience I've found most people are very respectful. I held signs for Bush in '04 and we spent the whole time chatting with the folks who were holding signs for Kerry. I saw the same thing tonight with the Trump and Clinton people.

Ours always have a detail at each location.