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I'm behind Trump 100% Any slightly moderate thinks Cruz is a perry-esque nutjob. He has anything but wide spread appeal. He has my vote if he gets nominated, but he will not win. No way. Rubio? Isn't he a Dem? Same with Carson. Statist Impostors, those two are, and don't even get me started on Christy... Scumbag doesnt even begin to cut it as an adjective for him... People on both sides of the spectrum are sick of snafu and this outsider has a better shot at shaking things up than anyone embedded in the system. I just dont trust politicians anymore, so I'm voting for Trump if at all possible. | |||
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Rubio has ZERO chance of winning Iowa. Do you want to place a wager on it? When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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From what Ive seen Cruz is the only candidate that would beat Clinton as of now, Trump trails behind her slighty. I dont buy into the fact that moderates and independants are scared away by Cruz. My wife is about as centrist as it gets and she sided with Cruz from the get go. Many of her California liberal teacher coworkers have warmed up to Cruz, all this crap about Cruz being too extreme is utter bullshit. Ill back Trump is he ends up being the nominee, but Cruz has my vote in the primary. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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Classic! Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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While you were reading that did you happen to notice that I wasn't saying it, but referring to the sudden rumblings about Rubio? I just heard the cast of The Five on Hannity and it was "Rubio had a great night" or "Rubio is peaking in Iowa at the right time". Since when is Rubio peaking in Iowa? He was always in contention to be 3rd or 4th, but what? It's like everyone is following the same establishment talking points. I don't think he wins, but it bothers me. | |||
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Here's trump in his own words. Some are not that long ago. What, on earth, are his core values? | |||
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WASHINGTON, Jan 29 (Reuters) - The Fox News debate without front-runner Donald Trump attracted the second-smallest audience of the seven such televised encounters among Republicans so far this election cycle, according to early ratings figures released on Friday. According to preliminary Nielsen data, 12.5 million people watched the Republican face-off, beating only an earlier debate on the less-prominent Fox Business Network. http://www.reuters.com/article...idUSMTZSAPEC1TQ5MLEP | |||
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" From what Ive seen Cruz is the only candidate that would beat Clinton as of now," Get new glasses.  ------------------------------ Knowing is half the battle! "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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I point out that most of those "polls" are done by those in the media, or closely linked to them. Virtually anything can be proved or dis-proven. I once proved, by polling, that drinking milk as an infant leads to cocaine abuse by adults. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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Uh-Oh! Now the unions are worried about their members voting for Trump... Through his hotel, casino, real estate, and development projects over the last 3 decades Trump has created tens of thousands of jobs. Who else in this race has created any? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01...ump-unions.html?_r=0 Of all the voters who might be expected to resist the charms of Donald J. Trump, the two million members of the Service Employees International Union would most likely be near the top of the list. The union, which endorsed Hillary Clinton in November, is widely regarded as one of the more progressive in the labor movement. It skews female and racially diverse — roughly the opposite of a Trump rally, in other words. But the union’s president, Mary Kay Henry, acknowledged that Mr. Trump holds appeal even for some of her members. “There is deep economic anxiety among our members and the people we’re trying to organize that I believe Donald Trump’s message is tapping into,” Ms. Henry said. In expressing her concern, Ms. Henry reflected a different form of anxiety that is weighing on some union leaders and Democratic operatives: their fear that Mr. Trump, if not effectively countered, may draw an unusually large number of union voters in a possible general election matchup. This could, in turn, give Republicans a boost in swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, all of which President Obama won twice. The source of the attraction to Mr. Trump, say union members and leaders, is manifold: the candidate’s unapologetically populist positions on certain economic issues, particularly trade; a frustration with the impotence of conventional politicians; and above all, a sense that he rejects the norms of Washington discourse. “They feel he’s the one guy who’s saying what’s on people’s minds,” Thomas Hanify, the president of the Indiana state firefighters union, said of his rank and file. Mr. Hanify said that Mr. Trump has so far dominated the “firehouse chatter” in his state. While he allowed that his members tilt Republican, he estimated that most followed the lead of the union’s international leadership and supported Mr. Obama in 2008 and 2012. Ms. Henry and other labor leaders remain confident that they can keep their members in the fold by making a case that the Republican Party’s economic agenda, including Mr. Trump’s, runs counter to the interests of working people. But they also see Mr. Trump as posing particular risks. “Anyone who talks about dividing people in the country as a solution is a threat to the country, to democracy, the economy, and to working people, and we take every one of those seriously,” said Richard L. Trumka, president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O. The potential pairing of Mr. Trump and union members could be helped along by a sense that Mr. Trump, unlike more conventional Republicans, has historically enjoyed a cordial relationship with labor on many of his real estate projects. “He has put his fair share into hiring union people,” said Richard Sabato, the president of a building and construction trades council in northern New Jersey. “He’s done that in Manhattan, in New Jersey.” But that’s not always the case. The owners of Trump International Hotel Las Vegas filed objections to a recent vote by roughly 500 of its workers to unionize, and the National Labor Relations Board has found merit to the claims that the hotel violated workers’ labor rights. (The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment.) Mr. Sabato said that his members, who lean Republican but in many cases voted for Mr. Obama, would “march behind” Mr. Trump on the issue of illegal immigration. Even more important for many union members has been the issue of economic globalization. Mr. Trump has railed against the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the 12-country trade deal the administration finished negotiating last year. And he has bemoaned the administration’s failure to stand up to what he and many union members see as China’s mercantilist policies. He has also fulminated against plans by the company that owns Nabisco to shift some production to Mexico — “I love Oreos,” he said, “I will never eat them again” — and vowed to impose a punishing tariff on imports of Ford cars unless the company canceled a $2.5 billion investment in plants in that country. “We like that he does not support TPP, that he has taken the position that there should be trade tariffs for a company that moves jobs overseas,” said Ryan Leenders, 30, a member of the International Association of Machinists in Washington State. Mr. Leenders, who estimated that one-quarter to one-third of his factory’s union workers were Trump supporters, said he voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 and wrote in Ron Paul in 2012. Reflecting the anti-establishment mood that has engulfed parts of the labor movement, Mr. Leenders said he believed that more than half of his union’s workers support Senator Bernie Sanders, while very few support Mrs. Clinton, despite the fact that the machinists union endorsed her last summer. (A machinists spokesman said that, “At this point, any estimates of support for a candidate are more a passing snapshot of popularity.”) Many union officials are grappling with a similar dynamic, including the Teamsters, whose members have a “Teamsters for Trump” Facebook page, with more than 650 likes. John Bulgaro, the president of Teamsters Local 294 in Albany, said that Mr. Trump had generated excitement among his members, but that “a lot of people like Bernie Sanders.” He cautioned that they would need to hear more about Mr. Trump’s position on labor rights. To be sure, polling of union voters shows that Mrs. Clinton remains broadly popular and would carry most Sanders supporters in a matchup against Mr. Trump. But the same polling suggests that Mr. Trump could perform unusually well among these voters for a Republican nominee. Christopher M. Shelton, the president of the Communications Workers of America, which endorsed Mr. Sanders in December, said that while polling of his members showed Mr. Trump’s support lagging far behind support for Mr. Sanders and Mrs. Clinton, it was higher than Republican presidential candidates typically net. Too often, it sounds like Union leaders are well paid and out for their own interest not for the overall membership. Inflexible work rules... Wiseman 53 12 minutes ago l learned Unionism at my father's knee in N.J. during the fifties. He belonged to a plumber's union. I will always remember holding his hand... It is very disheartening to see even a small percentage of union member vote Republican. Despite Mr. Trump’s appeal, particularly among white working-class men, longtime labor officials and political operatives point out that Mr. Trump’s popularity before a single primary vote has been cast is a vastly different proposition than whether he would be able to retain that support in the fall. “In every election around this time there are stories suggesting that union members will defect — ‘Oh, white union men won’t vote for Obama,’” Steve Rosenthal, a former political director of the A.F.L.-C.I.O. and progressive political organizer, wrote in an email response to questions. In the end, Mr. Rosenthal said, union voters almost always end up voting overwhelmingly Democratic. White male union members favored Mr. Obama in 2008, and John Kerry in 2004, by roughly 20 percentage points, according to polling commissioned by the A.F.L.-C.I.O., even as white men over all favored the Republican candidate by a large margin. Mr. Rosenthal said that unions have proved adept at building support among their members for Democratic nominees who generally embrace their economic agenda and at undermining support for Republicans. In a recent study of working-class voters in Ohio and Pennsylvania based on over 1,500 interviews, Working America, a labor-affiliated group, found genuine support for Mr. Trump among Democrats. But Matt Morrison, the group’s deputy director, said that many Trump supporters were receptive to information that suggested a gap between the candidate’s words and deeds. “Just delivering a little bit of new information, we could see that his brand takes a hit,” Mr. Morrison said, referring to reports that Mr. Trump may have used undocumented workers on some of his development projects. Other experts cautioned that even if Mr. Trump does retain substantial support among white male union members without college degrees, that will not necessarily yield him an electoral advantage in November if he becomes the Republican nominee. The voters that labor unions must typically work the hardest to turn out, like younger voters and Latinos, “are groups that will be highly motivated” against Mr. Trump, said Guy Molyneux, a pollster who has surveyed union voters extensively over the years. “That could produce net votes for the Democratic nominee.” Mr. Molyneux also said that many of the union voters attracted by Trump were among the 30 percent of union voters who already vote reliably Republican. Still, unlike most other Republicans, whose appeal to union voters rarely extends beyond cultural issues like gun rights, Mr. Trump’s economic pronouncements have a greater potential to scramble the standard political calculus. “I do think that Trump is a threat,” said Mike Lux, a progressive activist who is a former labor official and veteran of President Bill Clinton’s administration. “If the Democratic nominee is Hillary, and she’s mushy at all on the trade issue, Trump will take that issue and drive it and drive it and drive it.” When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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My visions fine, your logic needs a checkup though. The same polls you use to show how great Trump are are the same ones showing Cruz as a favorite above Hillary. I see this going about as well as Romney or McCain, voting for a less conservative candidate to get support from the middle, then losing the general election to a radical leftist. You wanna risk a three-peat, put Trump out there. Sanders is another story, hes catching up fast and all the gimme free shit crowds are gonna show up for him big time. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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Please show one poll I have posted? And this is nothing like Romney or McCain who I never wanted as the nominees anyway. Guess who did ? Probably the same people you are getting your information from now. I am sorry but you are high if you think Cruz will pull more votes than Trump. Personally I like Rand, Cruz and Trump in about that order BTW. ------------------------------ Knowing is half the battle! "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Those people doing all the talking on the other side of the tv screen? They're not your friends. They will lie to you. You know, to get you to buy stuff and shit. The Five, The Hannity, The O'Really, the Megyn, the whoever is yapping. I can't stand them and don't need their take on the "truth" as they Pogo was, and still is, right. God help us, we ain't helping ourselves... "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Trumps the flavor of the month right now, when it comes time for the general election the centrists are gonna bail on him and go with another leftist thats gonna tell them what they want to hear, and like the idiots they are they'll buy into just like with Obama. Trump hasnt done much of anything to make me beleive he gives 2 shits about anyone but himself. Thats great for a businessman, but not the qualities I look for in a leader. Sorry but im not in with the "Yeah, go Trump, fuck em all" crowd. Its entertaining for a while but when it comes time for him to make a moral decision for the good of the country....dudes fucking bankrupt in that department. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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^ You see what you want to see, like I said you need new glasses and new info sources you sound like Jeb Bush.  There's one of those "Real" Republicans. News flash I don't give a fuck about the Republican or Democrat party I love America. Many Americans are at the same point. ------------------------------ Knowing is half the battle! "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Ah No- Check the date of the OP= June 30, 2015. As I said I've only been following politics since the early 1980's and I've never seen a guy on top for this long with this much intensity. Trumps the Energizer Bunny of politics. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Did you take flavor of the month literally, alrighty then.... Go ahead guys, fling your immature shit, follow Trumps lead. "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist" | |||
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OK, guys. Let's cool it, please. | |||
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Yepper the enemy is indeed us! | |||
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Trump will pull a larger share of the black and hispanic vote than any Republican presidential candidate in history. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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