I will be blown the fuck away (surprised) if Rubio doesn't get the nomination, and not because that's what should happen - but because the party and establishment despise Trump so very much. I am, generally, adamantly against conspiracy theories, but this situation, this election, and recent history like Obamacare and how it happened, is pushing my faith in the system to its very limits.

I want to be wrong. I truly do. And if I were the praying sort I'd don my colander and say eleventy Hail Skatans whilst dancing a jig around the fire with virgin women aplenty. Instead I remain on the edge of my seat, as involved as ever, yet feeling completely powerless, left to simply watch it all unfold, and hoping enough people will do the right thing for once, which feels like expecting a venomous snake to cuddle.

I don't think my give a shit meter will survive any monkey business. The forecast for a post monkey business era will be one of monumental apathy on my part. After 2008, and 2012, and everything that's happened in between, I expect, I demand, a legitimate nomination and election in order for me to continue giving any fucks at all.

My focus is on the GOP/RNC/Establishment and whether or not they are honorable. Shockingly, to me, I trust the most ill informed inbred moron more than I do the system and those in charge, and I fucking hate morons. That's what 'they' have done, those in DC, they've all but destroyed my faith that it's all anything but an absurd sham.

Please, oh great leaders and movers and shakers, I'm begging you, please prove me wrong.

46, look at the focus group last night. I can't believe all of them just suddenly fell in love with Rubio after last night. The establishment likes to get it's way, so it wouldn't shock me at all.

Damn. How do you guys arrive at these conclusions???

Bizarre

I'm sorry, I know you hate conspiracy-ish talk. My intent was to convey how little faith and trust I have left, and my concerns. I'll try to keep a lid on it.

That would be peachy.

Please, just don't ask. I don't want to hear any explanations for this stuff.

It is bizarre. Out of no where Rubio's name started to be floated the past few days as "gaining" momentum in Iowa. After the debate some talking heads and online sites started saying Rubio could win Iowa and use that to propel him with the strategy I mentioned above. Then Luntz had a focus group where at least 75% of them said they switched after watching his debate performance. So, something is brewing and nothing logical that I can see started it. He's been irrelevant the past few days, so where did that momentum come from? His debate performance was OK, but nothing close to what that focus group said.

Bush hit him hard last night, so it's probably not a settled matter yet, but they are obviously looking for any opportunity they can find to get their way. If Rubio doesn't do well on Monday it's out the window, which I hope is the case, but if he does and Cruz is out of the way it makes sense.

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Originally posted by 1967Goat:

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Originally posted by mikencP226:
Donald Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar and Right - And, my dear fellow Republicans, he's all your fault.


http://www.politico.com/magazi...213572#ixzz3yeKEywn8

Great article, thanks for posting, Mike.

Indeed!

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Originally posted by parabellum:
That would be peachy.

Right on.

I appreciate the generally wide latitude you allow.

Thanks.

Mine was posted before I saw you didn't really want an answer.

Typically, there are three tickets out of Iowa.
Those belong to Trump, Cruz, and Rubio.
The others will start dropping out, though maybe not before New Hampshire.

Jeb says he has "a lot of really cool things" he could be doing instead. But he can afford to stay in.
He's not spending his own money and maybe no one has given him any other "really cool things" to do.
Somebody should give him a set of legos or lincoln logs.

Here is Trump's value on display. No one else can do this.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-j...hester-union-leader/

Total War: Trump Goes After ‘Psycho’ Manchester Union Leader

For those of us who have been waiting decades for a Republican presidential candidate to figure out that the Establishment Media is already at war with us, Donald Trump is not only an answer to that prayer but an effective answer. After just taking down the once-infallible Fox News a notch, in New Hampshire Friday, The Donald eviscerated New Hampshire’s Union Leader.

The New York Times:

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Mr. Trump has denounced the paper repeatedly since it endorsed Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey for president, but on Friday he let loose with a new and more intense stream of invective against The Union Leader and its publisher, Joseph W. McQuaid.

Mr. McQuaid, he said, was a “bad guy,” “a liar,” “a psycho” and a “dirty dog.” He charged, not for the first time, that Mr. McQuaid had sought to extract advertising and political favors in exchange for an endorsement. Mr. McQuaid has consistently denied such assertions.

“Is there a lawyer in the house? Why don’t we sue this dope?” Mr. Trump said.

To a member of the audience who seemed to volunteer, Mr. Trump asked: “You want to sue him for me? Will you give me a good deal?”

As he did in his clash with Fox News, Mr. Trump described his willingness to take on the media as proof of his readiness for the presidency.

“Here’s the beauty of me,” Mr. Trump began. Referring to Mr. McQuaid, he said, “When we have a dirty dog like that, at least I have a microphone where I can speak back.”

In the next paragraph, you can actually sense The New York Times gripping its pearls:

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For a Republican candidate to attack The Union Leader at all, let alone repeatedly and with such venom, is extraordinary in New Hampshire politics. The paper is considered one of the two print outlets with the greatest sway over conservative voters. (The other, The Boston Herald, has also endorsed Mr. Christie.)

Our media is so arrogant, so bubbled and insulated, the very idea of a Republican pushing back is simply inconceivable.

The Establishment Media in this country is either a branch of the Democrat Party and/or a Defender of the DC Ruling Class, a castle guard for a status quo that has failed everyone but the elite.

In other words, the media is a political enemy, an opponent that must be treated as such.

Whether or not you like Trump, there is no denying he is fully aware of this fact and, more importantly, has the political skills to finally deliver the reckoning these corrupt institutions have long had coming.

Nothing is more important to our democracy than tearing down the establishment’s media temple.

The Boston Herald has sway over conservative voters??? What planet are they on???

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The media is a political enemy, an opponent that must be treated as such.
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Nothing is more important to our democracy than tearing down the establishment’s media temple.

I dunno about the *most* important, but it's way up there, and I agree, they are self serving, complicit, enemies, in a sense, whores for sale, masquerading as friends.

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Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
I'm still pissed why Trump all of a sudden started attacking Cruz. It would be nice to know why. I won't be voting for Rubio so this sucks. Trump/Cruz is really the only ticket I want to see at this point.

Because Trump is for Trump is for Trump. He has no concept of the big picture. He has isolated himself from most likely the best running mate he could have asked for in Cruz. Instead he's floating one of the biggest rino's out there in Scott Brown.

He's not for me or you or anyone else he is just for Trump. He will say whatever is needed
and do whatever it takes at the time to further himself above any perceived rivals who challenge him or threaten to get in the way of his goal of being POTUS.

Once he has achieved his goal he will become bored and begin looking for the next spotlight. The hard work of doing all the things he has promised to do for all the people who elected him will be turned over to deal making and compromises. By the time most people figure it out it won't matter.

If you listen to Trump and believe he can even do all the things he claims he wants to do he's is far right of even Cruz. But Cruz is too far right to be elected or at least that's what I've heard.

Heads up !

INCOMING ! ! !

None of them can do the stuff they promise. Look at what just happened with the VA execs being reinstated by some judge. Bush said he'd fire them all. Good luck wit dat, chippy.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Because Trump is for Trump is for Trump. He has no concept of the big picture. He has isolated himself from most likely the best running mate he could have asked for in Cruz. Instead he's floating one of the biggest rino's out there in Scott Brown.

He's not for me or you or anyone else he is just for Trump. He will say whatever is needed
and do whatever it takes at the time to further himself above any perceived rivals who challenge him or threaten to get in the way of his goal of being POTUS.

Once he has achieved his goal he will become bored and begin looking for the next spotlight. The hard work of doing all the things he has promised to do for all the people who elected him will be turned over to deal making and compromises. By the time most people figure it out it won't matter.

If you listen to Trump and believe he can even do all the things he claims he wants to do he's is far right of even Cruz. But Cruz is too far right to be elected or at least that's what I've heard.

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In other words, the media is a political enemy, an opponent that must be treated as such.

Yes, but I would say the media is THE political enemy. Politicians come and go. It is possible to defeat them in elections. The media establishment is entrenched. Look at Katie Couric, for example. How many years was she on The Today Show, spewing the leftist party line? Now she is at Yahoo, which makes no pretense about its being totally Democrat, totally establishment. They are as ideological and propagandistic as the old Pravda. I mean that literally.

Only Trump fights these totalitarian bastards. When I read members here denouncing Trump, it just amazes me. Do you see what's happening in this country-- to this country?? Wake the fuck up!