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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by sdy:


“The Sanders people should be mad at themselves,” said one well-connected Democratic strategist to the Hill. “If they had come out to vote, Donald Trump wouldn’t be president.”

Yes, of course. Don't worry about the fact that your guy was cheated against and schemed against in a rigged primary. You should've ignored all that and supported the one who was behind all the rigging and cheating.

+1

Pretty big disconnect in that statement. And that's why wiki's e-mail drop showing Hil saying "a personal and a private persona" was such a big deal.

Their party has reached the apex of needing two diametrically opposed groups; the Occupy crowd for votes, and the Wall Street crowd for money. And that's what was so eye-opening about the Podesta e-mails. Wiki dropped the curtain - for those smart enough to see it - and showed them how they were being duped.

If their voters ever get over their current tantrum and start looking for real answers, they may stumble into this truth. And in the next election, the Dems may have to decide between cash-flow and voters.

To add -

While a known comedian, I think he hits this out of the park. I agree with almost everything he says in regards to "why Trump"

Warning- lots of British accented f-bombs, you've been warned.

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:Several hundred assholes carrying anti-Trump signs and chanting shit just marched down the middle of the (very busy street) in front of my house. What do these twatwaffles expect to accomplish? Do they think the Donald will say, "OK. Sorry, folks. I didn't know y'all felt that way. Hillary can be the president." It made me wish for an M60.

You did the "rat, tat, tat" version of air guitar, didn't you?

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Originally posted by sdy:


But one thing Democrats agree on is that they were ineffective at turning out older, working-class voters in states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Oh, they turned them out, all right.

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
To add -

While a known comedian, I think he hits this out of the park. I agree with almost everything he says in regards to "why Trump"

Warning- lots of British accented f-bombs, you've been warned.


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He may have made a few good points about why the libs lost, but in a word, FUCK that guy. He's disgusted by the candidate than I'm welcoming with open arms. Is DJT the perfect candidate? I suppose not. Do I agree with 99% of what he ran on (and won on)? Yup!

I've never heard of this person, nor do I know anything about him, but I'm so sick of being labeled a sexist because I hate HRC. Sick of being labeled a racist because I hate what Obama has done. Sick of hearing about 'pussy grabbing'. And if he's not a US citizen, that's even more reason for him to STFU.

Prior to the election the Democratic Party was the darlings of the media and could do no wrong and "thought" they had the election in the bag. Several days later they are eating each other alive to survive...pretty dam funny and most still don't get it.

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Originally posted by SummersAtTheLake:
Prior to the election the Democratic Party was the darlings of the media and could do no wrong and "thought" they had the election in the bag. Several days later they are eating each other alive to survive...pretty dam funny and most still don't get it.

The Democrats and anarchists are still the darlings of the media, I think.

I don't know if this article is trying to garner sympathy for these anti-American opportunists, and I don't care...all i know is that the comments at the link made me smile.

Shattered dreams in Clintonworld

Hillary Clinton's shocking loss in the presidential race rattled the political world and shattered the dreams of thousands of longtime Clinton aides and supporters who hoped to follow her to the White House.

Perhaps more than any politician in American history, legions of politicos—from her husband’s administration to her second presidential campaign— had hitched on to the Clinton train.

This week, the Clintonworld train went off the rails — this time, seemingly for good.

In interviews with more than a dozen former Clinton aides, they expressed a grief and pain akin to losing a member of the family.

“I think she'll continue on as a public figure but there was a finality to her concession speech that had me thinking back and realizing that most of my last 10 years had been somewhere in her orbit,” said one former aide. “I spent so long thinking about ‘What if?’ and ‘What happens if she becomes president?’ and I think there's a little part of you that dies when you realize it's not going to happen.”

Another campaign aide, who had been in Clinton’s orbit since her 2008 campaign, summed it up this way: “It’s a difficult thing for a lot of us because there’s no longer a next time with her. That’s tough. She was weaved into our lives.”

When Clinton lost the Democratic primary in 2008, those in her world mourned the loss for weeks and months and long after President Obama was sworn in. But because Clinton had a Phoenix-like narrative, they expected her to once again rise from the ashes.

During her tenure as Secretary of State, they looked ahead to 2016. A superPAC called Ready for Hillary— comprised of Clinton diehards— even sprouted up in 2013 to help lure her into running for president again.
And there was always the lingering thought that she would once again be “in it to win” even as she wouldn’t commit.

This time, the loss blindsided Clintonites. Even through a bumpy primary against a relatively unknown challenger in Sen. Bernie Sanders and then an ugly and raucous general election against Donald Trump, they thought they had this. They filed into the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center with its enveloping glass structure on Tuesday night thinking they would finally break it.

One former aide left a bottle of champagne chilling in the fridge on Tuesday. Another scoured real estate listings in Washington. They posted pictures on Facebook of themselves with a woman who became more than just their boss.

“For many people Clintonworld is life,” said one former aide.

“They don’t know anything else. There was a lot of measuring the drapes and not just now, it’s been that way for a long time,” another former aide said.

Those in her orbit didn't just expect Clinton to win. They expected her to win big with the campaign telegraphing that states like Arizona were in play.

“And people thought she was going to win with 300 electoral votes. Everyone was thinking about their own lives in another Clinton administration. It seemed like it was finally happening.”

Weeks and months before the election, many aides, former staffers, surrogates and anyone who had ever worked for either Clinton had been lining up for jobs in what they thought would be a return of the Clintons to the White House.

Since the summer, people have been pushing resumes and collecting names. They discussed who might be the chief of staff in a Clinton White House. (Jake Sullivan and Ron Klain got the most buzz.) And for the better part of October, as things were looking good for Clinton, campaign manager Robby Mook told allies that he would be interested in being chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Now, many expect he’ll go into the private sector.

Some of her campaign aides had been promised jobs on the transition and PIC, the presidential inaugural committee.

“Looking out from the Clinton bubble, the outcome always looked good for Hillary,” said one Clinton surrogate. “Inside that bubble, she’s infallible. Many in that bubble have also privately admitted being there was the ticket to a gilded future.”

Now, just three days after the loss they never saw coming, they're still trying to figure out what happened. They tune into daily calls held by the campaign that have turned into post-mortem sessions.

On Thursday, surrogates had a final call with campaign chairman John Podesta and communications director Jennifer Palmieri. On Friday, they called into a final “women's call” with speakers including Gloria Steinem.
And they’re trying to mourn while sketching out other plans.

Some say they will follow former Obama aides that left the political world for the tech world in Silicon Valley. Others say they'll stay in New York. Many say they'll leave Washington for good because as one said, “What's left? How can I stay?”

“For me, I’m still with Hillary and my heart will always be with Hillary but now my head has to focus on other things,” said the aide who has been in Clinton’s orbit since the 2008 campaign. “But now it’s time to be selfish. So many people put so much on hold for so long because they believed in the greater good.

“But that final chapter ended and it ended early,” the aide said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/ca...eams-in-clintonworld

I guess it's true, a woman really does only earn 75% of what a man does....

^^^^^
Hahaha! Thats awesome

This link is to a memo to the Clinton senior staff to explain what happened.

The memo is from Navin Nayak (the head of Clinton's opinion research division)

https://assets.documentcloud.o...Memo-Why-We-Lost.pdf

downloads as a pdf

few points from the memo

They believe they lost the election in the last week

Comey's second ltr helped Trump

They "disqualified" Trump as unfit for the presidency

Early vote data was good for them

Everything changed in the last week

voters who decided in the last week broke for Trump 42/47. The numbers were even more exaggerated in key battleground states

significant drop in election day turn out

they were hurt by third party voters

late breaking developments proved "one hurdle too many"

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I'm just curious.

How many of y'all actually cried after the 2008 or 2012 presidential elections?

How many of y'all gave serious consideration to protest marches, sit-ins, sticks, boycotts, blocking streets or highways, seeking safe places, getting counseling, or any of the other things that so many disappointed HRC supporters are doing?

I bought a mini 14 and 1k of ammo and spent a little more time at the range.

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Originally posted by sdy:
This link is to a memo to the Clinton senior staff to explain what happened.

Good deal. I hope they stick with that and convince the DNC that these are the reasons.

If any of them actually believe this nonsense it proves they have no clue as to what happened or why.

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Originally posted by ryan81986:
I guess it's true, a woman really does only earn 75% of what a man does....

That is classic

What about the Wikileaks effect???

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I'm just curious.

How many of y'all actually cried after the 2008 or 2012 presidential elections?

How many of y'all gave serious consideration to protest marches, sit-ins, sticks, boycotts, blocking streets or highways, seeking safe places, getting counseling, or any of the other things that so many disappointed HRC supporters are doing?

I seriously considered taking a nap.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I'm just curious.

How many of y'all actually cried after the 2008 or 2012 presidential elections?

How many of y'all gave serious consideration to protest marches, sit-ins, sticks, boycotts, blocking streets or highways, seeking safe places, getting counseling, or any of the other things that so many disappointed HRC supporters are doing?

I didn't cry. I did not protest. I did not boycott because of election results. In 2012 I went into mourning because I learned that the people of this nation were unconcerned about the principles of liberty, the constitution and the bill of rights. I learned that if those things were important to me, I had to untether myself from the identity of what 'American' was becoming. I think it is not equivalent to compare the weeping and gnashing of the Left to what I experienced in 2012. I mourned the loss of liberty, rectitude and the rule of law. They mourn the loss of tyrannical rule. Only one of those is worth crying for. But I did not cry. I learned and moved on.

A twist on a song from The Producers:

Spring time for Trump and America
Winter time for Leftists and Democrats.

Hahaha! But I think Trump is officially at 306 now. He has Michigan.

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Originally posted by ryan81986:
I guess it's true, a woman really does only earn 75% of what a man does....

I'm actually sort of surprised that the Hillary camp hasn't come out and said the NRA was behind her loss, given how much she hated that organization of American Citizens.