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Lawyers, Guns
and Money
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Paul Nehlen stood for a “throw the bums out,” politicians are dirty, blue collar, trade protectionist policy.

He ran some cool ads, depicting himself as a Harley-riding rebel with a flair for business. Donald Trump himself gave Nehlen a controversial Twitter shout-out, and Trump surrogate Ann Coulter personally campaigned for him.

Nehlen’s campaign treasurer was a Trump transplant. Nehlen appealed to Democrats to try and knock the House Speaker out of his own district.

And... the results speak for themselves.
Ryan 84.1%
Nehlen 15.9%
Ryan absolutely crushed Nehlen.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Can he say anything that is not a major controversy?

Nothing he says is any type of controversy. If people see it that way it is because the media tells them too. Personally I think he should not talk for a week. Not because he says the "wrong" things but to put a spotlight on Hillary. Tell the press "when she starts answering questions I will too" and walk off stage.

I agree. He should take a couple days off during the week (not a weekend) and not say anything. Go to a private golf resort or something. The media won't know what to do.
 
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Then they would bash him for living "the detached life of a milioaire playing golf while he should be doing important things for the American people".

See anything ironic there?


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The Golfer in Chief act is a big part of what got us in our present mess. I think Hillary is gonna come unraveled in the next 2 mos.
 
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If she gets sedated any more, the last part of the election will look like a spoof of Weekend At Bernie's.



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Again. Ignorant voters are to blame, and that's all there is to it.



The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter.

But in reality money buys votes the majority of the time. Also, seems to me like Wisconsin is a good bit liberal (present company excluded). Lotsa Union up there. Or so I hear.
 
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Had this conversation with my mom this morning...You would think there wouldn't be ONE, SINGLE policeman, soldier, or coal miner voting for Hitlery, but sadly, you KNOW there will be.

I
Just...
Don't...
Get it



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"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
 
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Imthink some of it too is that folks are too overwhelmed with making ends meet and have become effectively "punch drunk" by a combination of economic stress, social stress (family issues, kid issues etc) and the feeling that whatever they do or want just no longer matters.

I think back into the 70s, 80s and even the 90s...folks felt "connected" more to their futures. I dont think that is any longer the case. There is a general,feeling of "just being along for the ride". This feeling has been contructed (IMO) by the left and the globalists. They want you to give up, fall in line, and be greatful for your meager exsistance.

As far as WI goes...despite the fact that they own everything above 45deg latitude, Big Grin they are extremely loyal and kind to their own. Its that German/Nordic/Scandanavian thing that comes thru. Certainly nothing wrong with that, but they watch out for eachother.


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Posts: 10079 | Location: At the end of the gravel road. | Registered: November 02, 2006Report This Post
Ethics, antics,
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I love how the media still likes to interject Obama's "high approval rating" every chance they get. News flash...his approval rating only went up because he has been doing absolutely nothing but campaigning for Hillary and occasionally spouting something about what the talking heads decide to talk about and ask him from time to time. There are more of us that approve of his doing nothing.

As for Mr. Trump, I am confident that there is a large, silent majority like myself that refuses to answer polls, phone calls, or otherwise give feedback to any media outlets as I want the November surprise to be overwhelming and humiliating for the other side. If anyone has some stacks of polls on paper they want to freely distribute, please message me as I'm running low on toilet paper. That's about what they are good for this election season whether your candidate is up or down. Make no mistake folks. There are more Trump supporters (left, right, and middle) out there than some people could actually imagine and we just need to make our votes count in November! I do believe that the free exchange of information through social media is helping to work towards this happening and supports this theory.

One more thing of note, anyone else notice how there is exponentially more violence so far against Trump supporters from the "tolerant left" than there is in the other direction? This should concern everyone regardless of which side of the road you tend to lean towards.


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One more thing of note, anyone else notice how there is exponentially more violence so far against Trump supporters from the "tolerant left" than there is in the other direction? This should concern everyone regardless of which side of the road you tend to lean towards.



This concerns me more than anything. The spiral of respectable discourse is another thing that the left has fertilized. You get to a point where your "opponent" has been so deamonized, some see it as a green light for violence. No matter who wins in November we as a Nation are in for some very rough years. Its either going to take the form of leftist violence (if Trump wins) or an accelleration of the demoniztion and persecution (and I dont use that word lightly) of more traditional and conservarive aspects of our Country.

The stage has been set. Plan appropriately.


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Bad dog!
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^^^ In a few words, you have said a lot, entropy. And, unfortunately, I completely agree with you.


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I suspect that Trump's controversial comments could be a deliberate tactic.

I could be wrong, but he's dominating the news, every single channel without spending a dime. I'm not sure how well it will work, since the media's coverage is all very negative.

It seems like he may be saving his money for the month before the election, when it would have the biggest effect.
 
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Thank you
Very little
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Polls show Trump gaining on Hitlary...

Link

Seems like The Donald needs to do a little more work on getting his Presidential Cred numbers up, clean up the image a bit...
 
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Lawyers, Guns
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Polls show Trump gaining on Hitlary...

Stay the course... stay on message...

Bloomberg 8/5 - 8/8 749 LV Clinton +4
Clinton 44
Trump 40
Johnson 9
Stein 4



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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You guys are just working yourselves into a fret over nothing. "Polls" are manufactured to produce the desired results by those who are paying the bill. They are worse than useless.

There will be some bias-free polling done from about October 15th forward that is actually worth noting. Until then, all you're doing is clicking on the money-maker that they dangle in front of you like a carrot. Don't be their fool.
 
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Knows too little
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Don't believe the polls, believe the crowds at the individual rallies.

Head counts running counter to the reported poll results.

RMD




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Don't believe the polls, believe the crowds at the individual rallies.

Head counts running counter to the reported poll results.

RMD


Yes check DJTs pic page on twitter. Huge venues filled, battleground states.



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Don't believe the polls, believe the crowds at the individual rallies.

Head counts running counter to the reported poll results.

RMD


Yes check DJTs pic page on twitter. Huge venues filled, battleground states.


The size of the crowds means absolutely nothing and is a very poor indicator of how the vote will go. You really can't rely on that.


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Originally posted by Deqlyn:
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Don't believe the polls, believe the crowds at the individual rallies.

Head counts running counter to the reported poll results.

RMD


Yes check DJTs pic page on twitter. Huge venues filled, battleground states.


The size of the crowds means absolutely nothing and is a very poor indicator of how the vote will go. You really can't rely on that.


Actually, Alan, at this very early point in the process, it's likely the single best indicator available. It definitely means something. We statisticians will tell you that the size of the crowds showing up at their respective rallies does indeed correlate with the overall level of support they share among the entire voting base. It is statistically significant.

Truth be known, Trump is likely very far ahead and will win the battleground states and the election. It's going to be a while, though, until the garbage coming out of the MSM means anything. It's all propaganda now but, once we get to late October, they can't afford to be that wrong. They'll have no choice but to report Trump's commanding lead. Just be patient.....we're winning.
 
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Oh stewardess,
I speak jive.
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^ I dunno about it being meaningless, but yes - they definitely aren't everything. Still, I do believe they are a better indicator than any of the polls no matter their source.

That said, Sanders' rallies were similarly large, his base of motivated supporters were as active and enthusiastic as I've seen anywhere, and in the end it wasn't enough to win...

I think there is an outside chance of a big / landslide-ish win for Trump, but for the most part I expect a tight race even if it's run completely honestly, and even that seems unlikely.

There is no payoff here to being over confident, that's for sure.
 
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