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Donald Trump won’t kiss the ring and sign Ronna McDaniel’s ‘loyalty’ pledge

Ronna McDaniel saw the writing on the wall—Donald Trump, the most popular Republican candidate in history (by far) refuses to quit in spite of the endless legal and political witch hunts—and something had to be done.

So, Mitt Romney’s niece threw a hail mary, and back in February, McDaniel mulled the idea of a “loyalty pledge” before promptly instituting it. Here’s what she had to say at the time about the tactic, during a chummy conversation with CNN’s Dana Bash, via Politico:

We’re saying you’re not going to get on the debate stage unless you make this pledge[.]

But Trump refused to play her game; reported two days ago:

Donald Trump said Wednesday he will not sign a pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee — an RNC requirement for participation in the first primary debate.

I say this with total sincerity, God bless him.

Trump argued that his declination, which would mean no debate, was “not a question of guts” but of “intelligence” and he’s absolutely right. Trump is an author, and his books include numerous references to famous works of Western literature, which means he’s well-versed in classic authors. He’s likely heard the George Bernard Shaw quote about tussling with swine: “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.” A double entendre for the ages! McDaniel, in particular, is cozy in the sty and at the trough of establishment politics.

But, I’d also argue Trump’s move is a matter of principle, and seemingly, so does he. From a Florida outlet:

‘Why would I sign it?’ Trump said in an interview on the conservative cable network Newsmax. ‘I can name three or four people that I wouldn’t support for president. So right there, there’s a problem.’

Listen to what else McDaniel said about the pledge:

I think it’s kind of a no-brainer, right? If you’re gonna be on the Republican National Committee debate stage, asking voters to support you, you should say I’m gonna support the voters and who they choose as the nominee.

She then continued, saying:

We have to come together as a party. We saw big races lost this cycle, because of Republicans refusing to support other Republicans… and I am committed to making sure we come together as a party.

Of course, thinly veiled by a generic pretense of unity is what was meant to be an obstacle specifically for Trump, because he’s the only Republican politician not beholden to the RNC elites; and just as he always does, he outmaneuvers.

If Ronna cared about winning, she’d get behind the candidate that is currently dominating in all the polls; one shows a 43 point lead:

If she cared about the Republican voters she wouldn’t abuse her authority, attempting to preclude the people’s most beloved candidate from participation in party events, until he bends his knee to establishment interests.

No other Republican candidate can compete as long as Donald J. Trump is a factor; the GOP elites know it, and they hate it.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._loyalty_pledge.html



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Prosecutors obtained warrant for Trump's Twitter account, judge fined company $350,000 for delay

https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter

Federal prosecutors led by Special Counsel Jack Smith obtained a search warrant in January for materials related to former President Donald Trump’s Twitter account, and a judge fined the social media platform $350,000 for delaying compliance with the warrant, court documents released Wednesday show.

The information was revealed in a federal appeals court decision rejecting the social media platform's claim that a lower court was wrong to hold it in contempt and impose the fine.

Smith obtained a warrant directing Twitter, which has since been renamed X, to produce "data and records" relating to the former president's account on the platform, according to the filing obtained by The Associated Press.



I do not understand why they need Trump's twitter records. Is not everything Trump tweeted PUBLIC ??? God Bless Smile


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They are desperate to find anything keep Trump out of the race, the D don't have to work extra hard, the Rinos are going to work even harder...

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'Immediate disqualification': Conservative law professors say Constitution bans Trump from presidency

Two leading, highly-credentialed conservative constitutional law professors say the U.S. Constitution already “disqualifies former President Donald Trump” from holding office, including being President, because of his “participation in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 presidential election.”

In a 126-page University of Pennsylvania Law Review paper published Wednesday, University of Chicago Law School Professor William Baude, and University of St. Thomas School of Law Professor Michael Stokes Paulsen, introduce their work by writing:

“Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment forbids holding office by former office holders who then participate in insurrection or rebellion. Because of a range of misperceptions and mistaken assumptions, Section Three’s full legal consequences have not been appreciated or enforced. This article corrects those mistakes by setting forth the full sweep and force of Section Three.”

Appearing to push back against claims made previously by others in defense of a second Trump presidential term, they write: “Section Three remains an enforceable part of the Constitution, not limited to the Civil War, and not effectively repealed by nineteenth century amnesty legislation.”

They say Congress need do nothing to implement Trump’s “immediate disqualification from office.”

“Section Three is self-executing, operating as an immediate disqualification from office, without the need for additional action by Congress. It can and should be enforced by every official, state or federal, who judges qualifications.”

The law professors add, “to the extent of any conflict with prior constitutional rules, Section Three repeals, supersedes, or simply satisfies them. This includes the rules against bills of attainder or ex post facto laws, the Due Process Clause, and even the free speech principles of the First Amendment. Fourth, Section Three covers a broad range of conduct against the authority of the constitutional order, including many instances of indirect participation or support as ‘aid or comfort.’ It covers a broad range of former offices, including the Presidency.”

And in particular, it disqualifies former President Donald Trump, and potentially many others, because of their participation in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 presidential election.”

The New York Times notes that both professors “are active members of the Federalist Society, the conservative legal group, and proponents of originalism, the method of interpretation that seeks to determine the Constitution’s original meaning.”

Steven G. Calabresi, a law professor at Northwestern and Yale and a founder of the Federalist Society,” The Times adds, “called the article ‘a tour de force.'”

“Trump is ineligible to be on the ballot,” Professor Calabresi told The Times, “and each of the 50 state secretaries of state has an obligation to print ballots without his name on them.” Calabresi also “said…that they may be sued for refusing to do so.”

Former U.S. Appeals Court Judge J. Michael Luttig, a “star witness” during a televised hearing of the U.S. House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, also praised the article. He says it “promises to be of monumental — and historic, if not also contemporary — importance to Constitutional Law.”

Noah Bookbinder, the President of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) notes the two conservative law professors cite CREW’s work in their article. He calls it, “Extremely significant that two leading conservative legal scholars put out a piece today arguing that section 3 of the 14th Amendment remains enforceable and disqualifies Donald Trump from office.”
 
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Judge sides with Trump on protective order, handing Jack Smith an early defeat

https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter

Afederal judge on Friday sided with Donald Trump, rejecting a request from Special Counsel Jack Smith for a protective order that would have imposed some speech restrictions on the former president as he runs in the 2024 election.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan ruled prosecutors did not meet the burden for the protective order but also put Trump on notice he will have to be careful about what he says and releases about the case.

"Mr. Trump, like any American, has a right to free speech," Chutkan said. "But that right is not absolute."

Smith had requested the protective order last Friday after Trump posted to TRUTH Social, saying, "IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I'M COMING AFTER YOU!"

The Trump campaign said the social media message was aimed at political interest groups and not witnesses in his case.


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I do not understand why they need Trump's twitter records. Is not everything Trump tweeted PUBLIC ???
The tweets are, but they also got access to his DM's as well.


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At one time, I had a lot of respect for Pence. He fooled me... once.

Mike Pence, 'Constitutional Hero'?

By Don Brown

https://www.americanthinker.co...titutional_hero.html


That is an excellent article. Thanks!


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Two leading, highly-credentialed conservative constitutional law professors ( uhhh, huhhh... ) say the U.S. Constitution already “disqualifies former President Donald Trump” from holding office, including being President, because of his alleged “participation in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 presidential election.”

In a 126-page University of Pennsylvania Law Review paper published Wednesday, University of Chicago Law School Professor William Baude, and University of St. Thomas School of Law Professor Michael Stokes Paulsen,
These are some fart smellers... alleged 126 pages? Puhleeease Roll Eyes

Sure seems to me like the people that purport to be experts, don't ever seem to know squat.

Just so we're clear, that's the same U Penn that hosts the Penn Biden Center, and received/s untold millions of $ from the Chinese and funneled it to Biden and people in his orbit. That includes probably half of the people in his current cabinet. Blinken, Sullivan, et al...

Chicago Law is tied up pretty tightly with Obummer...

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Trump RICO Indictment Briefly Appears On Georgia Court Docket

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...-new-rico-indictment

Former President Donald Trump is apparently going to be indicted under the RICO (Racketeer Influenced And Corrupt Organizations Act) statute, according to a document which was briefly posted on the Fulton County, Georgia court's website.



Case information at link: Photo too large to post here.

Also this twitter feed from a Reuters reporter shows the charges.

https://twitter.com/jackqueen_...-new-rico-indictment



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According to Reuters, Fulton County posted charges to their docket BEFORE the grand jury had even finished

This means the grand jury has been completely tainted

How can they objectively vote on charges when they've already heard of the decision to charge?


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According to Reuters, Fulton County posted charges to their docket BEFORE the grand jury had even finished

This means the grand jury has been completely tainted

How can they objectively vote on charges when they've already heard of the decision to charge?


Here is more to what you posted.


Georgia DA Fani Willis Publishes Trump Indictment Charges Before Grand Jury Has Even Voted.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2...jury-has-even-voted/

A two page docket report was posted, then removed, from the Fulton County, Georgia court website today concerning the impending indictment of former President Donald Trump. The incident led to corporate media outlets and news wires originally reporting that an indictment has been handed down Monday. It had not. The briefly public docket report revealed that District Attorney Willis will be seeking a range of charges against Trump including racketeering, conspiracy, and making false statements – it is not currently known if additional charges will be included.

The apparent errant posting of charges is just the latest in controversies that have plagued Fani Willis and her attempt to prosecute the former President. A judge forced Willis off part of the Georgia investigation regarding the 2020 presidential election last year when it was revealed that Willis had held a political fundraiser for the Democrat opponent of a state Republican lawmaker who also happened to be one of her investigative targets. Most recently Willis came under scrutiny for launching a political fundraising website with an email tease stating: “We have an announcement”. Critics argue that Willis is politicizing her potential prosecution of Trump and using the allure of potential court drama line her campaign war chest with donor money and raise her political profile for a potential run at higher elected office.


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‘I Need One More Indictment to Ensure My Election’

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...ent-ensure-election/


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Yeah, I saw that Big Grin

Trump's reaction has got to frustrate the ever-lovin' Hell out of the lefties.
 
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Well, here we go again... Ask and ye shall receive.

Fulton County grand jury returns indictments in Georgia election probe
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FULTON COUNTY, Ga. - Indictments have been handed up in the Georgia election probe. The Fulton County DA handed the indictments into the clerk shortly before 9 p.m. Monday.

Fulton County Clerk Ché Alexander then walked the indictment in the chamber of Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney.

"That's it," Judge McBurney said after signing it.

A copy of the indictments has not yet been released. The clerk's office is currently processing the massive document. That could take up to three hours.

The Fulton County District Attorney is expected to hold a press conference immediately after the indictments are made public by the clerk's office.

Sources tell FOX News 10 people have been indicted by the grand jury on Monday. Their names and charges have not been disclosed.


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Is anyone surprised in the least? It's almost no longer newsworthy.
 
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SSDI - Same Shit, Different Indictment




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In addition to the former president, the others facing charges include former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, former New York GOP Mayor Rudy Giuliani, attorneys Jenna Ellis, John Eastman, Kenneth Chesebro, Ray Smith, Robert Cheeley, and Sidney Powell; would-be Trump electors Shawn Still, Cathy Latham, and David Shafer; pastor Stephen Lee, election official Misty Hampton, publicist Trevian Kutti, former DOJ official Jeffrey Clark, Trump campaign official Mike Roman, Scott Hall, and Black Voices for Trump leader Harrison Floyd.

All 19 defendants face racketeering charges under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), CNN reported. Trump himself also faces myriad conspiracy charges and multiple counts of soliciting a public official to violate their oath. He also faces charges from making allegedly false statements.

The indictments come two-and-a half years after Willis started her investigation in Trump's efforts to challenge the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia, a state he lost.

After the announcement, the Trump campaign called the indictment "bogus."

"Fulton County, GA’s radical Democrat DA Fani Willis is a rabid partisan who is campaigning and fundraising on a platform of prosecuting President Trump through these bogus indictments," the statement read. "Ripping a page from Crooked Joe Biden's playbook, Willis has strategically stalled her investigation to try and maximally interfere with the 2024 presidential race and damage the dominant Trump campaign. All of these corrupt Democrat attempts will fail."


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"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."

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Newt Gingrich: We are drifting towards the greatest Constitutional crisis since the 1850s

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich responds to the grand jury returning 10 sealed indictments in the Trump Georgia case.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6333547137112



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Georgia DA Fani Willis Publishes Trump Indictment Charges Before Grand Jury Has Even Voted.

The ham sandwich indictment in Fulton County

Gather 'round as we delve into the latest courtroom drama that has left legal minds across the nation scratching their heads. Consider the grand jury indictment in Fulton County, Georgia, involving none other than the 45th President of the United States and no fewer than 18 co-defendants. The charges? A whopping 41 counts, all related to Trump's 2020 election challenge. Can you smell the justice in the air? Or is that just the aroma of a certain cured meat product?

In a stunning display of efficiency, Fulton County District Attorney, Fani Willis, managed to convene a grand jury for a grand total of 10 hours. Now, I know what you're thinking – surely, such complex matters as racketeering charges involving over a dozen defendants warrant at least a few days of contemplation, right? Wrong! Who needs the niceties of due process when you've got the news of a Hunter Biden special counsel to knock out of the news cycle?

This grand jury's ability to hear, process, and consider 41 counts and the intricacies of racketeering in a mere 10 hours is nothing short of remarkable. They must have been fueled by supercharged legal caffeine, capable of absorbing and dissecting volumes of information at warp speed.

But hold on a second, let's not be so hasty in our judgment of this speedy process. Who needs thoughtful contemplation and careful analysis when you can just toss around indictments like confetti at a parade? Who needs to make sure that each count is thoroughly examined when every good Democrat knows the election cycle is underway and Joe Biden needs all the help he can get?

But, here's where things get really exciting. The indictment was posted on the Fulton County courts website, even before the grand jury had a chance to deliberate. That's right, the ham sandwich was indicted before the ham sandwich was even prepared. It's almost as if the whole process was just a formality – a mere procedural obstacle to overcome on the path to banana republic justice.

But let's not be too cynical. Surely, the DA had a good reason for posting the indictment early. Maybe they wanted to give the public a sneak peek, a tantalizing taste of the legal feast to come. Or perhaps they just wanted to show off their impeccable multitasking skills – after all, who wouldn't want to juggle an indictment, a grand jury, and a court filing all at once?

And let's not forget the pièce de résistance – a thoroughly unbiased judge (I’m sure) was assigned to the case even before the grand jury returned an indictment. That, my friends, is the pinnacle of legal efficiency. Who needs the pesky inconvenience of a deliberation process when you can just skip ahead to the inevitable conclusion? It's like starting a movie night by watching the last five minutes of the film first – suspense be damned!

While it's easy to make light of the situation and sarcasm is justified, the damage the Democrats are doing to our system of justice is a national tragedy. Swift justice is one thing, but predetermined justice is no justice at all. Due process and thorough consideration are the cornerstones of a fair legal system, and their absence will destroy the public’s trust required for our system of justice to operate.

https://www.americanthinker.co...n_fulton_county.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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