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Get my pies
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Oh fer shits sake, the mans not even in office and they can't stop, how much do they fear Trump, seems quite a bit...

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EXCLUSIVE: 'It's fiction': Trump tears into 'disgusting, fake news' report from left-wing UK newspaper The Guardian that Putin had 'kompromat' on him and backed him to win election because he was 'mentally unstable' and would create 'social turmoil' in US

Vladimir Putin personally ordered a top secret spy operation to help a 'mentally unstable' Donald Trump win the 2016 election, according to documents the left-leaning Guardian newspaper says were leaked from the Kremlin – in a report President Trump calls 'disgusting fiction.'


They are absolutely terrified he's going to run again in 2024 against Cackling Disaster Kamala (there's no way Senile Joe makes it to that point) and win.


 
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Why didn't the judge over the hearing where it was found out that the charging material had not been provided to the defendant for 6 months throw the case out?

Why aren't they awarding bail to non-violent first time "offenders"?

Due process, habeas corpus, rules of discovery and everything else are out the window?

Seems simple - order the release of all 14000 hours of footage to counsel for all of the accused or charges will be dismissed. That is discovery. There is zero national security interest in keeping the videos secret. Unless wandering hallways and breaking some glass windows and doors is some kind of super infiltration intelligence.

Once things finally get out - and they will - many of these people will sue the federal government for violation of their civil rights, malicious prosecution, and what have you. I think the goal is just to hold them and/or keep them silent until the midterm elections so they can keep the narrative going that "Our Democracy" is in peril.
 
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Why didn't the judge over the hearing where it was found out that the charging material had not been provided to the defendant for 6 months throw the case out?

Why aren't they awarding bail to non-violent first time "offenders"?

Due process, habeas corpus, rules of discovery and everything else are out the window?

Seems simple - order the release of all 14000 hours of footage to counsel for all of the accused or charges will be dismissed. That is discovery. There is zero national security interest in keeping the videos secret. Unless wandering hallways and breaking some glass windows and doors is some kind of super infiltration intelligence.

Once things finally get out - and they will - many of these people will sue the federal government for violation of their civil rights, malicious prosecution, and what have you. I think the goal is just to hold them and/or keep them silent until the midterm elections so they can keep the narrative going that "Our Democracy" is in peril.


They are now political prisoners who will be dragged in front of show trials around October 1st of 2022 so the Democrats can remind everyone just how evil we Trump supporters are. I’m sure the ball-less GOP will go right along with it too Roll Eyes


 
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DOJ's Handling of Evidence In January 6 Prosecutions Called Into Question By District Judge Barring Use by DOJ of an Outside Contractor To Assist

Chief Judge Beryl Howell rules private company cannot be given access to Grand Jury materials.

Many cases have now been pending for more than six months since the government made the decision to seek indictments and arrest many of those who had attended the January 6th protests and gone inside the Capitol. Problems persist across all the filed cases with the government’s inability to deliver to the defendants the evidence in the government’s possession — most notably video evidence — that might be relevant and material to their cases.

The decision to move forward with a massive undertaking all on one time was a volitional choice made by the Justice Department — it was not compelled to do so. Even now, the government could move to dismiss charges without prejudice while it continues to process evidence and organize the cases it has already filed. The charges could be refiled at any point in time in the future prior to the statute of limitations expiring.

In an effort to obtain assistance from a contractor with the type of experience needed to manage massive amounts of customer data — manage it in a way that allowed easy search and access regarding individual cases — the DOJ signed a multi-million dollar contract with the international accounting firm Deloitte Financial Management.

The database that Deloitte was to create would have stored all the documentary, physical, and video evidence accumulated by the FBI, Capitol Police, and other federal agencies during the course of the investigation. From this database, the evidence regarding individual cases could be accessed and provided to charged defendants as required by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

But one particular such rule, Rule 6(e), prohibits the disclosure of “grand jury” material outside the Department of Justice or the Court without prior authorization. The Justice Department filed a motion with the District Court seeking such permission to provide access to Deloitte employees. On Friday, Judge Howell ruled that the motion did not sufficiently justify the request made and prohibited DOJ from giving the Deloitte employees access to the material from the January 6 investigations for the purpose of creating the database.

This leaves DOJ in the position it currently finds itself in having collected a massive volume of evidence on hundreds of persons already charged with crimes. It cannot sort through and produce the evidence for individual cases in a manner that complies with its obligations under the rules of procedure and its constitutional obligation to afford the defendants the “due process” to which they are entitled.

The government is the architect of its own problems here. Nothing compelled the government to begin its nationwide dragnet to arrest anyone and everyone it could identify as having entered the Capitol on January 6. Nothing compelled the government to move forward with grand jury presentations and obtain indictments against every person arrested on a criminal complaint.

No one forced the Biden Justice Department to “swallow an elephant in one bite.” It would have been in line with normal Justice Department processes to start with the most serious cases — those which were of the highest priority in view of the FBI and DOJ — and hold off on initiating lower priority cases until the highest priorities were underway and all difficulties with evidence were resolved.

Nothing prevented the government — as is consistent with DOJ policy — from WAITING to seek indictments until it had all evidence for individual defendants segregated in a fashion that would make it easy to produce that evidence to the defense as required by the discovery rules.

The rule of thumb in DOJ used to be that a prosecutor should be ready to go to trial on the day the indictment is returned by the grand jury. All the evidence should be already gathered and organized in a fashion that makes production to the defendant simple. The only thing that should need to be done between indictment and trial is for the defense to prepare.

The time between indictment and trial is NOT supposed to be a period for the prosecutors to get their act together.
 
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What a shit show. Is every single department of the Biden executive branch incompetent and prone to massive overreach?

It's clear they tried to swallow the elephant because they have no real cases to try that would lead to an actual guilty verdict for anything of substance other than trespass, vandalism, and mischief. Pursuing the most "serious" cases first would have exposed this and led to minimal future cases.

It's all a show and a huge violation of the constitutional rights of the accused. Hopefully this will be exposed in open court and the prosecutors will be sanctioned, or better yet prosecuted themselves.
 
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What a shit show. Is every single department of the Biden executive branch incompetent and prone to massive overreach?

It's clear they tried to swallow the elephant because they have no real cases to try that would lead to an actual guilty verdict for anything of substance other than trespass, vandalism, and mischief. Pursuing the most "serious" cases first would have exposed this and led to minimal future cases.

It's all a show and a huge violation of the constitutional rights of the accused. Hopefully this will be exposed in open court and the prosecutors will be sanctioned, or better yet prosecuted themselves.


The only thing that surprises me is that they didn't get whisked away to Guantanamo. This administration would do it in a heartbeat if they thought they could get away with it.
 
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Sharpiegate e-mail clearly shows voter fraud through adjudication was coordinated and preplanned.

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“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden
 
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What a shit show. Is every single department of the Biden executive branch incompetent and prone to massive overreach?

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By now, that should be an obvious YES! They are ALL worthless as can be!!!


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The only thing that surprises me is that they didn't get whisked away to Guantanamo. This administration would do it in a heartbeat if they thought they could get away with it.

I have been actually shocked they haven't done so already! I figured they would come up with something by now to consider them "traitors" and ship them off to Gitmo!


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On Monday, Federal District Judge Randolph Moss presided over the first sentencing hearing of a January 6 protest defendant who pled guilty to the felony charge of “obstructing official business” under 18 U.S.C. § 1512. Defendant Paul Hodgkins was the first person to plead guilty to a felony back in early June.

The sentencing range “recommended” by the United States Sentencing Guidelines was 15-21 months

The Biden Justice Department prosecutor asked Judge Moss to sentence Hodgkins to 18 months in prison. Hodgkin’s attorney asked for a sentence of probation with no jail time.

Judge Moss sentenced him to 8 months

While many will argue that Hodgkins should never have been prosecuted – he certainly shouldn’t have been charged with a felony – Judge Moss sentenced him to only two months more than Michael Curzio who pled guilty to the petty misdemeanor of “parading” inside the Capitol. This is one of the misdemeanor charges being most often applied in the “tourist protester” cases where the defendants are alleged to have done nothing more than walk inside the Capitol with the crowd, remain a few minutes, and then leave.

Curzio had been detained in custody pending trial based on his prior criminal history in Florida, including a conviction for attempted murder. But once he reached six months in detention — the maximum time he would serve for his petty misdemeanor charge — he pled guilty and was sentenced to “time served.”

Hodgkins attorney argued forcefully that Hodgkins is not responsible for the actions of others

Hodgkins attorney made the poignant point that as a veteran with over 30 years of service on active duty and in the reserves , he has been shot at by terrorists.

Judge Moss, appointed by President Obama in 2014, made all the right points and observances that lefties and liberals supporting the Biden Administration wanted to hear from him about the January 6 “riots”, threats to democracy, blah, blah, blah. He read from their hymnal as everyone expected him to do.

But he also made note that Hodgkins would be sentenced for his individual conduct which included no violence and no property destruction by him personally. Hodgkins has no criminal record, he admitted his responsibility for his conduct early, and he made a heartfelt statement of regret during the sentencing hearing.

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"no violence. no property damage. no criminal record" but sentenced to 8 mos in jail

compare that to places like Portland . Our country is totally fucked up right now
 
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Fuckin travesty. Politically motivated, rigged, two tiered sham of a justice system.
 
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They are now political prisoners who will be dragged in front of show trials around October 1st of 2022 so the Democrats can remind everyone just how evil we Trump supporters are. I’m sure the ball-less GOP will go right along with it too

They are receiving the same kind of treatment the N. Vietnamese gave our boys in Hanoi. You know, the same kind of treatment that gave Jane Fonda tears of joy. I think the routine was called brainwashing back in the day. Sad to have to admit that this is what our beloved U.S.A. .gov has become.
 
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Kevin McCarthy picked Republicans for the select subcommittee to investigate the events of January 6 of this year. McCarthy made five selections, including Jim Jordan.

Pelosi vetoed Jordan and Jim Banks

McCarthy responded that none of the five Republicans he selected will participate. Liz Cheney will be the only Republican on the committee.


adding:

Q to Liz Cheney: Did you personally urge the speaker to take this step ?

Cheney: " I agree with what the speaker has done"

video at

https://twitter.com/DailyCalle.../1417930813161754632
 
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Kevin McCarthy picked Republicans for the select subcommittee to investigate the events of January 6 of this year. McCarthy made five selections, including Jim Jordan.

Pelosi vetoed Jordan and Jim Banks

McCarthy responded that none of the five Republicans he selected will participate. Liz Cheney will be the only Republican on the committee.


McCarthy or whoever the new Rpublican Speaker is after 2022 elections should move Pelosi's office to outside the basement boiler room. God I hope the shoe is on the other foot soon.


John

"Building a wall will violate the rights of millions of illegals." [Nancy Pelosi]
 
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Surely Cheney will be toast when she runs for reelection. I can't imagine any conservative voting for her.




 
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^^^^^

I can't cite any source but in the last week I ran across someone somewhere claiming Cheney is flush with cash and will be very difficult to unseat. Of course we can imagine why she'd be flush with cash.




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Less do with cash & more to do with how much cheating the Dems can assist her with.
 
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Less do with cash & more to do with how much cheating the Dems can assist her with.


She plans to win the primary by having democrat voters vote for her. She hasn't been auditioning for conservative votes, she wants the lefty votes. So if she wins the primary the state republicans will have a choice: send her back to congress or send a democrat. If I were in that situation, I'd send the democrat.
 
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Less do with cash & more to do with how much cheating the Dems can assist her with.


She plans to win the primary by having democrat voters vote for her. She hasn't been auditioning for conservative votes, she wants the lefty votes. So if she wins the primary the state republicans will have a choice: send her back to congress or send a democrat. If I were in that situation, I'd send the democrat.


Not much of a difference at that point. The good news, the Dimocrap would only be there for two years.
 
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John Kerry and the back door to the Iranians? Hunter Biden / China, Ukraine?


Weaponizing FARA? Trump Ally Barrack Released On Stunning $250 Million Bail

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ing-250-million-bail

There are so many things wrong with the story of Thomas Barrack that it's hard to know where to begin.

Briefly, Biden's DOJ charged Barrack, the man who chaired Trump's inaugural fund, with illegal lobbying for the UAE. Then, for the 74-year-old Barrack to get out of jail, a federal magistrate imposed a $250,000,000 bail on him, along with other serious restrictions on travel. This is a travesty of justice and a clear threat to Trump allies, past, present, and future.

As always, the Daily Mail has a good summary:

Donald Trump's billionaire ally Thomas Barrack is being released on $250 million bond after being charged with illegally lobbying the Trump administration on behalf of the United Arab Emirates.

The 74-year-old reached a deal with prosecutors on Friday that will see him released from custody while he awaits trial on charges of illegal lobbying.

A federal magistrate judge in Los Angeles signed off on the conditions of the agreement, which will include surrendering his passport, complying with a curfew, and wearing an ankle bracelet with GPS monitoring.

The agreement also calls for Barrack to put up a $250 million bond, secured by $5 million cash, which would be forfeited if he does not appear for court proceedings.

Barrack, who chaired Trump's inaugural fund in 2017 and founded the private equity firm Colony Capital, waived his right to appear in federal court.

He will be arraigned in federal court in Brooklyn, New York on Monday.

There are several points to be made here, which I offer in no particular order:

One: Before the Democrats weaponized it, few people had ever been prosecuted as unregistered foreign agents under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). An article from 2010 reveals that the act was intended to sweep up foreign nationals:

The major roll-up of 11 Russian spies-cum-suburbanites involves the relatively rare use of the criminal code that requires agents of foreign powers to register with the U.S. Justice Department – a provision that allows prosecution of covert foreign operatives working without diplomatic immunity.

By 2010, when people were swept up under the act, they were working for hostile governments, as was the case with Robert Cabelly, a former State Department official under George H.W. Bush and Clinton who worked for Sudan, and Frank Duran, a Venezuelan national who worked for Hugo Chávez.

By 2019, when the leftist Foreign Policy declared that the Act "is broken," it also noted that its purpose, when enacted in 1938, was to combat fascist propaganda and that, since then, it was a "previously obscure piece of legislation." The same publication noted that it was Mueller who revitalized it to go after Trump allies.

Just to remind you of the uneven application of this law, the DOJ, which has long been a leftist swamp, ignored it entirely when Tony Podesta represented a bank that was tied to Russian spying agencies.

Two: Given that FARA was meant to protect against people sneakily representing enemies of the United States, it's telling that, in Barrack's case, the DOJ brought the charge against someone working with the United Arab Emirates. The UAE not only has a friendly relationship with America but is also completely dedicated to the Abraham Accords with Israel. It seems likely that the Biden administration is sending a "back off" message to anyone who gets too friendly with a nation the left wants to destroy. Certainly, MSNBC wants everyone to understand that any Mideast nation friendly with Trump is a Biden enemy.

Three: The trend across Democrat-run cities and states across America is to do away with bail. After all, no one would expect a repeat violent offender, released without bail, to commit another violent crime or make a run for it.

However, an elderly man with an ankle bracelet and a seized passport nevertheless must put up $250,000,000 in bail. You don't correct the age-old situation of having one law for the rich and one for the poor by relieving the poor of any obligations under the law and treating those rich people who aren't political allies as if every one of them is Jack the Ripper.

Four: What's happening to Barrack has nothing to do with law or justice. This represents the left's continued persecution of anybody who worked with Donald Trump. The clear intent is to make sure that everyone gets the message that, if Trump runs again, whether he wins or loses, those who work with him will be completely destroyed — not just shunned and barred from the "right" parties, but ground into dust.

The peaceful, constitutional transition of power in America cannot include hunting down every ally of the previous administration and destroying those people. But if it does — if that's what the Democrats have set as the new standard — game theory says we win by doing this twice as hard (and on much better evidence) when Republicans gain power from the corrupt, feckless Democrats.




 
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