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A Grateful American
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Replying to Lefty Sig post...

If the people allow for all of that, then we earned the tranny.

Either we believe we are governed by our consent, and we demand those chosen to represent the good cause of this Republic, or we are nearly servants.

I pray that should it ever fall to the unspoken means of redemption of our blessing, recognized and established in our constitution that men, and many of them, arise and not waver.

Meanwhile, hold up the standard and do not let it dip.




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Levin has been saying the same thing since this started. I listen to his radio show.

He doesn’t have a “bombshell” either, despite what you are trying to claim.

Will you turn on him when he turns out to be wrong?


Who mentioned a "bombshell"? What are you talking about? When he turns out to be wrong about the process of legal discovery civil complaints only needing reasonable belief?

Tucker is not an attorney. He is out of his depth and wrong to have gone after Sidney the way he did. Does that mean we will win in court? No, because judges do what they want these days. The bottom line is Levin does a great job of laying things out in his opening segment about not listening to Tucker or anyone else who doesn't know what they are talking about in this regard.

The bottom line for me with the other stuff is people are with us or they are against us. If Tucker jumps out of the boat then screw him and anyone else who does the same. No, he doesn't get to think for himself on this one. Shut up and support us or stay quiet. Don't feed the other side. I understand you will feel differently and I get it.
 
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Maybe everyone needs to turn off the pro/con media and go outside in the fresh air. Leave your masks inside.
 
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The media cannot deal with a slowly developing methodical story. They need bombshells, headline busters, BREAKING NEWS!, See it here first on News Station X.

They can't handle how this is progressing.




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^^^ so true!

The media hates the slow drip... not just because they want bombshells, but also because as the slow drip continues it undermines their primary story which is: Nothing to see here! Let's talk about something else! President-Elect Biden! Trump must concede!



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..at the end of the day they are both entertainers.


That's facile and dismissive. Hannity and Don Lemon are not Levin and Carlson. You cannot ascribe the same weight to all. That's like saying all politicians are the same, they're not. It's the easy way out for the uninvolved, we here are all involved. I hope you'll at least agree with that.




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Maybe everyone needs to turn off the pro/con media and go outside in the fresh air. Leave your masks inside.


Indeed.

The thing about turning on people, is eventually the thought police will turn on you.




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Levin is an attorney. Carlson is not. Carlson is a whiner and bitcher like many on our side, and all of the leftists, who keep demanding proof/evidence. Throwing his tantrum on national TV like he did is an embarrassment. I'm going to say this again. Even if you show irrefutable evidence of fraud, the leftist maggots will never be satisfied. They will keep moving the yardstick, blow it off and ridicule you. Haven't you guys learned anything in the past 4+ years?

The President lawyers are not obligated to show you, me, or the public anything. You are not entitled to see anything. You and I are just spectators. The real fight and outcome will be in court. Lower court rulings will mean squat, because the end is in SCOTUS. Win or lose, it will in SCOTUS.


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Anyone who does this will be relentlessly assaulted by the MSM/BigTech/BLM/Antifa as an "election fixer" and they will lose their next re-election, or worse. Their #1 priority is self preservation while giving a feigning appearance of standing up for their constituencies.

What needs to be understood is that after this there will not be any elections that mean anything. No battles to be fought by incumbents, no winning over the constituencies no glad handing or compromise will be needed. Officials will be chosen for us not elected by us. This idea of anyone calculating what to do now because of future elections is a fools game. That's why this needs to be won here and now. The future is now.


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The President lawyers are not obligated to show you, me, or the public anything. You are not entitled to see anything. You and I are just spectators. The real fight and outcome will be in court. Lower court rulings will mean squat, because the end is in SCOTUS. Win or lose, it will in SCOTUS.


AKA, we're the peanut gallery and the media hates knowing we're in the same room as they are with regards to infotainment.






Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.



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The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...



 
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The media cannot deal with a slowly developing methodical story. They need bombshells, headline busters, BREAKING NEWS!, See it here first on News Station X.

They can't handle how this is progressing.


You got that right. Just like some people here who want immediate resolution. Real life litigation isn't like the actual 40 minutes of your favorite one hour tv mystery.

Meanwhile the President continues fulfilling his promises and leading by example.
 
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With all the instances where "mail in" voting was emphasized, REP observers not allowed to observe, signature matching ignored, mail dates ignored, eye witness reports of fraud, the history of Dominion and Smartmatic, .... To me it is conclusive - massive (perhaps historical) voter fraud by the DEMs in the 2020 Presidential Election.


One thing that really sold me was "why Georgia?"

From the Chicago Tribune, of all places:



Trump beat a much more formidable opponent Hillary Clinton by over 200,000 votes with a near 80% turnout. Georgia is a fairly red state, and yet Biden The Moron could outperform both Obama and Hillary? Then it hit me; the state had an extremely rare occurrence of two senator seats up for grab at the same time.



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There is no “bombshell” coming.

Votes were electronically flipped from one candidate to the other.

Votes were weighted to favor one candidate and disfavor the other candidate.

There was an overwhelming number of votes for one candidate which would overwhelm the pre-programmed weighted values to the extent where additional votes needed to be added.

Critical states shutdown counting in order to add the additional votes to ensure the pre-selected winner would in-fact receive more votes.

Mail-in (absentee) ballots were manufactured and added to the stacks of ballots.
Absentee ballots were mailed in on the same day or before they were sent to the voter.

Sorting of ballots occurred without both political parties allowed to observe.

Different rules were applied to fixing ballots from counties of a particular political makeup.

Dead people voted.

No coming “bombshell”, simply a presenting of evidence and verdict coming.
If your still looking for a “bombshell”, you missed the explosion.

The only “bombshell” would be identifying what other countries have had their elections rigged by this voting software, and who did the rigging of elections.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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Can’t wait to see how Obama was involved.
 
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Now that things may have been shredded a recount is alright...

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Gov. Brian Kemp certified the state's slate of 16 presidential electors, but acknowledged that will still permit President Donald Trump's legal team to officially call for a recount.

The move will "formalize the certification," but it "paves the way for the Trump campaign to pursue other legal options and a separate recount if they choose," Kemp said Friday night, per The Associated Press.

Kemp expressed concern the completed Georgia audit looked only at ballots, not the signatures on the absentee ballot applications or absentee ballot envelopes.

"As a former Secretary of State, he is the first to know and confirm that a signature is matched twice prior to an absentee ballot being counted," Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs said in a statement.

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger certified results reported by the state's 159 counties that show Biden with 2.47 million votes, President Trump with 2.46 million votes, and Libertarian Jo Jorgensen with 62,138. That leaves Biden leading by a margin of 12,670 votes, or 0.25%.

The signatures on absentee ballot applications and envelopes are required to be checked when they are received. The audit is only meant to ensure the voting machines counted the ballots correctly, Raffensperger's office has said.

Trump's endorsement two years ago helped Kemp win a heated Republican primary and eke out a narrow general election victory over Democrat Stacey Abrams. Trump is expected to remain a powerful influence with GOP voters in the upcoming Senate runoffs in Georgia as well as in 2022, when Kemp will have to seek reelection.

The counties' results were affirmed by a hand count of the 5 million ballots cast in the race, according to results released by the secretary of state's office. The tally resulted from an audit required by a new state law and was not in response to any suspected problems with the state's results or an official recount request. Raffensperger said the hand tally confirmed Biden's victory.

Two years ago, when he was secretary of state, Kemp pushed back forcefully against an outcry from Democrats who accused him of suppressing voter turnout to improve his odds of winning the gubernatorial election. At the time, he insisted that Georgia's laws "prevent elections from being stolen from anyone."

At a news conference at the state Capitol on Friday morning, before the results were certified, Raffensperger reiterated his confidence in the 2020 elections.

"Working as an engineer throughout my life, I live by the motto that numbers don't lie," he said. "As secretary of state, I believe that the numbers that we have presented today are correct. The numbers reflect the verdict of the people, not a decision by the secretary of state's office or of courts or of either campaign."

Raffensperger's office stumbled earlier in the day when it prematurely announced the certification while it was still unfinished. Forty minutes later, a corrected news release was sent out saying that certification was still to come. The momentary slip was yet another moment of drama in a race that has been full of it.

Now that the results are certified, Trump's campaign will have two business days to request a recount since the margin is within 0.5%. That recount would be done using scanning machines that read and tally the votes and would be paid for by the counties, the secretary of state's office has said.

The hand count for the audit produced some slight differences from the previous machine tally, but no individual county showed a variation in margin larger than 0.73%, and the variation in margin in 103 of the state's 159 counties was less than 0.05%, the secretary of state's office said. During the audit, several counties discovered previously uncounted ballots and had to recertify their results.

"It's quite honestly hard to believe that during the audit thousands of uncounted ballots were found weeks after a razor-thin outcome in a presidential election," Kemp said. "This is simply unacceptable."

Raffensperger said Friday he plans to propose legislative changes aimed at increasing trust in the results, including allowing state officials to intervene in counties that have systemic problems in administering elections, requiring photo ID for absentee voting and adding stricter controls to allow for challenges to voters who might not live where they say.

"These measures will improve the security of our elections, and that should lead to greater public trust," he said.

Kemp said he also looked forward to working with lawmakers to address election concerns.

Raffensperger, a self-described "passionate conservative," has endured intense criticism and insults from fellow Republicans — from the president to the chair of the state Republican Party — over his handling of the election. He acknowledged their feelings Friday.

"Like other Republicans, I'm disappointed our candidate didn't win Georgia's electoral vote. Close elections sow distrust. People feel their side was cheated," he said.

https://www.newsmax.com/politi...020/11/21/id/998152/

Also some news out of WI

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BREAKING: Milwaukee Board of Canvassers agree with Trump campaign to set aside certain absentee ballots
3-4 minutes

The legal objections from the Trump campaign were considered by the Milwaukee Board of Canvassers yesterday and they ultimately sided with the Trump campaign on some objections:


Fox 11 News provided a list of the legal objections raised by the Trump campaign:

The Trump campaign has been informed by observers, whether sitting or standing, that they are unable to see through plexiglass and observe the ballots and materials being reviewed by election workers and therefore, they believe there is an inadequate opportunity to observe the ballots. Therefore, they are requesting items 2-7. Also, they want to ensure that there is a Trump observer at each table while recount is occurring.
Requesting that all written applications for absentee ballots are present during the recount and are set aside for observation.
Requesting that all absentee ballot envelopes without a written application set aside for observation.
Requesting that all absentee ballot envelopes with different ink set aside for observation.
Requesting that all absentee ballot logs are available, that they include all absentee applications (i.e., online requests) and set aside for observation.
Requesting that all absentee envelopes and applications that identify indefinitely confined voters set aside for observation.
Requesting that all copies or other evidence of all photo identification for any absentee ballot identification set aside for observation.
Requesting that all data for all the tabulating machines and all images of the ballots be preserved today and available for observation. And, that any and all audit trails and/or error trails from tabulating machines from Nov 2-5, 2020 be made available for observation, as well as the names of any technicians that performed any of this work or updates during Nov 2-5, 2020.

Fox 11 says the Board of Canvassers did agree to set some ballots aside from the objections:

Ultimately, the Board of Canvassers directed Milwaukee County poll workers to set aside absentee ballot envelopes that had different colored ink and envelopes marked as indefinitely confined for observation.

That looks like only two out of the eight objections. But even so, Team Biden didn’t like it:

“Setting aside, setting different piles, that is not part of the recount process under the statute,” Biden campaign attorney Chris Meuler said.

So what happens next?

Milwaukee County will recount nearly 460,000 ballots — costing an estimated $2.3 million. The recount process must be done by Dec. 1.

“The timeline, we will continue to plow through this as we go. We expect additional objections and those come to the commission. We’ll just continue to work through the process,” George Christenson, the Milwaukee County clerk, said.

Observers were present at the Wisconsin Center to watch the recounting process. They are not allowed to touch any recount materials, but can walk around the facility and bring any concerns to the Board of Canvassers.

https://therightscoop.com/brea...in-absentee-ballots/
 
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Can’t wait to see how Obama was involved.

See videos on page 443 of this thread.
I believe Joe when he said they applied this voter fraud during the Obama Administration.
I also believe Obama is the King Pin with Soros’s and High Tech Companies providing the financing.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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The President lawyers are not obligated to show you, me, or the public anything. You are not entitled to see anything. You and I are just spectators.


Very true. But eventually they're going to have to show a court something. It's possible they'll have some evidence of some sort of fraud at some point, but currently they're not very confidence inspiring. There's been multiple attorneys in some of these cases saying it's not a fraud case in court while the campaign (and at times these same attorneys) are saying it's fraud on TV and radio. A direct quote from Giuliani on Tuesday before a judge = "This is not a fraud case". And that's after spending a lot of his opening grandstanding about fraud.

Most of the attorneys I know (some conservative, some liberal) don't think that some of the large firms and attorneys that specialize in this sort of thing dropped out due to some cancel culture. They believe that when seeing what they actually had to work with it was they believed there is nothing there. The professional consensus I've been hearing is that while Giuliani may have been a skilled attorney at one time he hasn't been in a court in 30 years and is hopelessly out of his depth. He's been struggling with pretty basic legal terms in court.

So while I agree the presidents attorneys don't need to disclose much if anything to us they do need to put up or shut up in court. And so far they've shut up. They talk a big game about bombshells and SHOCKING news on TV and radio but it's been very different in an actual court so far.
 
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I believe Jenna.




“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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We are all frustrated and hungry for more knowledge. We're in this together.

Sigfreund wrote "there may not be a pony by the tree", and shortly we will know some of the battles to be fought.

but there will be plenty of battles to fight no matter how this falls out.
 
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Not a “Bombshell” simply additional confirmation of what we have already been told.

Video: Young Internet Sleuth Reveals Evidence Showing Over 23K PA Ballots Were Filled Out and Returned Before They Were Ever Mailed To Voters (and MORE)

At this point you either believe mass voter fraud occurred or your guy has been declared President Elect by the media.

At this point you either have faith that justice will prevail, a civil war will break-out, we have arrived to a socialist government, or your utopia has arrive.

I choose to believe mass voter fraud has occurred and justice will prevail.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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