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Originally posted by EZ_B:

Unfortunately Tucker and Ingraham seem to be folding.

Ingraham has always been an inside-the-beltway squish, a faux populist, flippant without wit and insight.

Carlson has been amazingly on point at times, seemingly unafraid.

OK like Fox News, he's changed and that sucks. He went beyond redemption last night when he openly mocked Powell, addressing their recent bad blood but suggesting she's painted herself as "singlehandedly" taking on the Dim fraud onslaught. As bad as that was, he went Crowderesque screechy as he mocked Powell. In all due respect, fuck him in the ass.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
Carlson has been amazingly on point at times, seemingly unafraid.

OK like Fox News, he's changed and that sucks...

Shows you he's just a fucking fake.

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Originally posted by VBVAGUY:
Praise God in the highest !!! Excellent news !!! Enjoy and God Bless President Trump and the USA !!!

CIRCUIT COURTS HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED:...

Posted already, previous page.

Of course it hasn't occurred to the masses of useful idiots but if this fraud is successful the idiots won't be so useful anymore. Why waste time and effort pandering to anyone for votes when they can be manufactured? Not only are the demands of the protected classes and special interest groups diminished, the voice of all voters instantly loses all of its power. Don't like what your congressman is doing? Tough shit, they don't need your vote, you've got no leverage anymore. The only people with the power to sway a politician will be, you guessed it, the super rich. Now only money matters because the useful idiots turned their heads, ignored the corruption and fraud and sold us down the river.

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Originally posted by Ripley:

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Originally posted by EZ_B:

Unfortunately Tucker and Ingraham seem to be folding.

Ingraham has always been an inside-the-beltway squish, a faux populist, flippant without wit and insight.

Carlson has been amazingly on point at times, seemingly unafraid.

OK like Fox News, he's changed and that sucks. He went beyond redemption last night when he openly mocked Powell, addressing their recent bad blood but suggesting she's painted herself as "singlehandedly" taking on the Dim fraud onslaught. As bad as that was, he went Crowderesque screechy as he mocked Powell. In all due respect, fuck him in the ass.

What will we all do when it turns out that he’s right by questioning her?

Fellas, you guys seem to turn on people at the drop of the hat. Tucker has been right on enough occasions I’ll hear him out. We constantly laugh and make fun of the left when they “eat their own”, but when things don’t go what we consider right, we freak out and tell the left “hold my beer and watch this”.

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Originally posted by jljones:
We constantly laugh and make fun of the left when they “eat their own”, but when things don’t go what we consider right, we freak out and tell the left “hold my beer and watch this”.

Yup. As the song goes, “A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”

Some people are constantly being whipsawed by stuff in the news despite the fact that they claim to believe it’s totally fake. If one can’t handle and process it calmly and rationally, just turn it off. We’ll learn the results when they are results, and not just assertions and speculation.

I will say, though, that at some point adults need to recognize and accept the fact that it’s possible—just possible—there may not be a pony by the tree when they get up on Christmas morning.

https://www.breitbart.com/clip...ory-of-this-country/

Tucker Carlson (yesterday):

Carlson told viewers people in the White House and people close to the president had not seen Powell’s evidence.

He also said that Powell’s pledge during her FBN appearance that proof was coming “within the next two weeks” was “great news” and that if successful, she will have uncovered what he called the “greatest crime in the history of the country.”

“As far as we are concerned, that is great news,” Carlson said. “If Sidney Powell can prove that technology companies switched millions of votes and stole the presidential election, she will have almost single-handedly uncovered the greatest crime in the history of this country, and no one will be more grateful for that than us.”

on page 448, I posted a long article about the EAC

that article said a former Dominion employee is an EAC member

Did a little checking, and that part is correct




EAC = Election Assistance Commission

She joined in May 2019

"she was the Director of Certification for a voting system manufacturer"

Independently verified that this was indeed Dominion

"University of Phoenix". This online school has a terrible reputation. It does appear to be more of a money making diploma mill than a high quality university

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by jljones:
We constantly laugh and make fun of the left when they “eat their own”, but when things don’t go what we consider right, we freak out and tell the left “hold my beer and watch this”.

Yup. As the song goes, “A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”
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I will say, though, that at some point adults need to recognize and accept the fact that it’s possible—just possible—there may not be a pony by the tree when they get up on Christmas morning.

Sadly, that's seeming increasingly possible.

I'm holding on based upon Powell's reputation for not putting things out there she can't prove. But what if she's being misled? Remember another Powell? "We" once loved Colin Powell. He put his reputation on the line, just like the current Powell is doing. The world bought the WMD accusations in large part because Colin Powell said so. Turned out he was misled.

Like I said: I'm hanging in there, but so far I'm seeing a lot of talk w/o anything to back it up. I'll be delighted if even most of what Trump's lawyers are claiming is both true and can be proven. But I won't be terrifically surprised to find there was a lot of smoke and no fire.

(To be clear: I'm nearly certain there was election fraud. I'm nearly as certain it rose to a level sufficient to affect the outcome. It's whether it'll ever be proven that's in doubt.)

John Sperling (deceased) founded the for profit University of Phoenix diploma mill in the 1990's. He spent millions promoting the legalization of marijuana in az. His subsequent predecessors are ultra liberal, some having served under obama. The mill has been involved in numerous law suits for fraudulent practices.

1) I believe any election lawsuits filed so far have been in State Courts not in Federal Court. Next week the Federal Lawsuits are supposed to be filed.

Hence the Supreme Court announcement on 11\20- Circuit Courts being reassigned.

Kinda makes Trump and McConnell's Judicial efforts over the last 4 years look very astute.

2) Tucker Carlson et al are entertainers. Rush is one of the few that clearly states that.

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Tucker Carlson et al are entertainers. Rush is one of the few that clearly states that.

Yes... they are primarily entertainers. They are seeking the largest audience possible. They aren't journalists. But neither are most journalists today.

Sidney Powell Talks Details With Larry O’Conner

The Trump Campaign’s legal team’s lead attorney Sidney Powell joins Larry O’Connor in an exclusive interview. She tells Larry she is willing to stake her personal and professional reputation on the allegations she has made.

Powell says the legal team has pictures of votes being manipulated in real time. She answers pointed questions about her allegations regarding the computerized voting systems on election night. She says Republicans have benefited from these systems as well. She also says she would LOVE Dominion to sue her over her allegations so she can conduct civil discovery. Lastly, Powell also responds to the charges made by Tucker Carlson on Fox News Thursday evening.



https://omny.fm/shows/examinin...idney-powell#sharing

https://theconservativetreehou...-with-larry-oconner/

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Originally posted by jljones:
What will we all do when it turns out that he’s right by questioning her?

What's he potentially right about--that she hasn't given him evidence that he isn't entitled to?

Regarding the obozo/Kimmel conversation...I didn't give a fuck about what obozo said while he was in office and I give even less of a fuck what that piece-of-shit says now.

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Originally posted by braillediver:

2) Tucker Carlson et al are entertainers. Rush is one of the few that clearly states that.

Exactly right. As much as I like Tucker and appreciate what he does, he's ultimately still just a TV pundit. Sydney Powell on the other hand is a serious person who does serious work. I haven't turned away from Carlson yet (though to be honest I haven't had his show on or FNC in general since the end of Oct), but between him and Powell, my deference goes to the latter.

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I'm nearly certain there was election fraud. I'm nearly as certain it rose to a level sufficient to affect the outcome. It's whether it'll ever be proven that's in doubt.)

That is close to where I am at. Except I would drop "nearly"

With all the instances where "mail in" voting was emphasized, REP observers not allowed to observe, signature matching ignored, mail dates ignored, eye witness reports of fraud, the history of Dominion and Smartmatic, .... To me it is conclusive - massive (perhaps historical) voter fraud by the DEMs in the 2020 Presidential Election.

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Originally posted by sdy:

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(I'm nearly certain there was election fraud. I'm nearly as certain it rose to a level sufficient to affect the outcome. It's whether it'll ever be proven that's in doubt.)

That is close to where I am at. Except I would drop "nearly"

With all the instances where ...

The problem is those are all so far unsubstantiated allegations. Until and unless they're proven beyond a reasonable doubt they will remain allegations. The sheer volume of them suggests to me the likelihood they're true is very high, but "very high likelihood" ≠ certainty.

Ensigmatic—
True, but everyone needs to remember that the “proof” needs to be in court, not on TV.

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Originally posted by sjtill:
Ensigmatic—
True, but everyone needs to remember that the “proof” needs to be in court, not on TV.

well that is certainly true, it’s very easy to gloss over the fact that the court cases have been a major disappointment. Where’s the actual evidence? Are we ever going to see the Kracken?

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Originally posted by jljones:


What will we all do when it turns out that he’s right by questioning her?

Fellas, you guys seem to turn on people at the drop of the hat. Tucker has been right on enough occasions I’ll hear him out. We constantly laugh and make fun of the left when they “eat their own”, but when things don’t go what we consider right, we freak out and tell the left “hold my beer and watch this”.

jljones, I'd suggest you listen to the first segment of the Mark Levin show I posted. Levin states that anyone who demands proof at this point is an idiot who doesn't understand the law. So your question is already behind us.