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I don't like this religious exemption. No justification for objecting should be necessary. I'm far from an atheist but this isn't fair to them.
Kinda interesting isn't it? You only get to keep your god given freedom 'if' the government accepts a religious exemption, a topic government should not be within a thousand miles of. When we lose autonomy over our own bodies, is there really anything left short of taking our lives from us?


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Biden admin says it will not halt firing employees seeking vax exemptions before a DC court ruling

The Biden administration, which had until noon on Friday to respond, said in a filing that it would not agree to halt the discipline and termination of any employees in the process of seeking a religious exemption to the vaccine pending the court's ruling on the temporary restraining order (TRO) motion.

"It is Plaintiffs’ burden to demonstrate impending irreparable harm…but Plaintiffs offer nothing beyond speculation to suggest that their religious exception requests will be denied and that they will be disciplined at all, much less on the first day that such discipline is theoretically possible," wrote the Biden administration in its filing Friday.

The judge on Thursday also asked the administration to agree that "active duty military plaintiffs, whose religious exception requests have been denied, will not be disciplined or separated during the pendency of their appeals."

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Perhaps the Biden Administration can explain to us how to get unvaccinated.
Seems to be irreparable harm to me.


The Biden Administration did not mention mandated vaccinations for illegal aliens, however is looking at offering them $450,000 each as a free gift from the American Taxpayer for entering our country and breaking our laws.
That’s $1.35 Million for a family of three.

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As people who have been paying attention know, there are NO FDA-approved shots currently available in the United States. FDA played bait-and-switch with two smoke and mirrors letters issued the same day to provide political cover for corrupt politicians and corporations to begin mandating that people get jabbed…or else.

What actually occurred was that the first letter concerned a Biological License Application (BLA) was approved, to permit marketing of COMIRNATY, which is NOT currently available in the United States, provided that the marketing materials are subsequently approved. The second letter said that the Pfizer/BioNTech formulation was clinically identical to COMIRNATY. It did NOT “approve” the Pfizer/BioNTech injection.

That is the reason they’re dropping the hammer so hard and so fast to now coerce people into getting jabbed after months of cajoling them with freebies. Speed is their only ally. The longer you resist, the less time they will have to compel your compliance, because the lawsuits currently working their way through the legal system will enjoin them from requiring injections.

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After the FDA approved vaccinating children this week and with the growing battle over mandating vaccinations, who didn't see this BS coming? What a load of crap. The CDC has 'zero' credibility at this point and should be completely ignored by everyone.

CDC study: Vaccination offers better protection than previous COVID-19 infection


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Alaska now joins multi-state suit against the fed over vaccine mandates. Alaska Railroad they will not enforce vaccine mandates on their employees. Will be interesting to see how that plays out since their the only railroad in the state making them a sole source contractor.

https://www.alaskasnewssource....federal-contractors/

Alaska joins lawsuit against vaccine mandate for federal contractors

By Tim Rockey
Published: Oct. 29, 2021 at 11:12 AM AKDT|Updated: 2 hours ago
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) - Alaska on Friday became the 10th state to join a lawsuit pushing back against vaccine mandate for federal contractors.

The suit alleges that President Joe Biden “overstepped his legal authority” by issuing a mandate that employees of contractors who wish to obtain federal contracts or who are currently under federal contracts must be 100% vaccinated by Dec. 8.

“Our laws prohibit this type of action, which is overreaching and inconsistently applied,” Alaska Attorney General Treg Taylor said in a press release. “This order improperly tries to use the force of law to punish federal contractors for decisions that should be left to them and their employees. Fortunately, federal and state law prohibits these bully tactics.”

Biden’s executive order mandating that employees of federal contractors be vaccinated was issued on Sept. 9 and states that private businesses must have 100 % of employees vaccinated before federal contracts could be awarded, or before their current federal contracts would be renewed.

Among the Alaskan businesses potentially affected by the vaccine mandate, the Alaska Railroad is a current federal contractor who recently rescinded their company vaccine mandate.

Alaska joins Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming in the lawsuit. The filing of the lawsuit maintains that the rule for contractors is ambiguous, inconsistent, and would cause confusion and exacerbate ongoing supply chain issues.

“President Biden’s attempt to force vaccinations is, at the root of it, unamerican,” said Gov. Dunleavy. “These mandates cause division at a time where we need to work together. Forced medical decisions are counterintuitive – destroying America’s sense of fairness and liberty. My administration will continue to fight against these mandates to protect the inherent individual rights of all Alaskans. Medical choice is an individual American freedom.”

The suit cites U.S. Department of Labor statistics that roughly one-fifth of workers in the U.S. are “workers employed by federal contractors”

The suit alleges that the mandate creates further questions about legality and argues that Biden’s mandate is not legal within Article II of the U.S. Constitution or any act of Congress.

According to data from the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services, 60.2% of Alaskans over the age of 12 are fully vaccinated. Across the U.S., 192 million people are fully vaccinated, accounting for 67.7% of residents 12 and older.

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Texas has now joined the lawsuit - or at least filed one - against Biden's jab mandate. From today's Texas Tribune:
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Attorney General Ken Paxton, on behalf of the state, sued the Biden administration on Friday over its coronavirus vaccine mandate for federal contractors.

The federal requirement, which is set to take effect Dec. 8, calls on all federal workers and contractors to be vaccinate against COVID-19. The Texas lawsuit comes after similar suits filed by Florida and Georgia, among several other states.

"The Biden Administration has repeatedly expressed its disdain for Americans who choose not to get a vaccine, and it has committed repeated and abusive federal overreach to force upon Americans something they do not want," Paxton said in a statement. "The federal government does not have the ability to strip individuals of their choice to get a vaccine or not. If the President thinks his patience is wearing thin, he is clearly underestimating the lack of patience from Texans whose rights he is infringing."

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The lawsuit alleges the Biden administration acted unconstitutionally in drafting the vaccine mandate policy. It also argues that the administration required congressional approval to enforce it.

Complete original text at http://www.texastribune.org/20...ne-mandates-lawsuit/
 
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NYC'S VACCINE MANDATE HAS BEEN A DISASTER FOR RESTAURANTS, STUDY FINDS



Shocking, I tell you.

They just started that shit here in King county of Washington state last week. I heard today of a breakfast place out in the sticks not far from me that won’t be enforcing it. I’m going to take the family there this weekend. Gotta support the good guys.


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And NYC's response is "we need more federal aid". Roll Eyes
 
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Diana Harshbarger introduces bill to require federal agencies to recognize natural immunity to COVID



^^^^ Doesn't that just legitimatize that having some "protection" against Covid can now be a requirement for working/living/shopping/etc?

I don't see why we are always moving in the wrong direction to meet the other side half way.


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Glad to see it.

Utah joins lawsuit against federal COVID-19 vaccine mandates - https://www.fox13now.com/news/...-19-vaccine-mandates

SALT LAKE CITY — The state of Utah has joined a lawsuit against the federal government, challenging the Biden administration's vaccine mandates.

Governor Spencer Cox and Republican legislative leaders have long-threatened their own lawsuit, but had been waiting to see if the Biden administration advanced a proposed occupational safety rule requiring COVID-19 vaccination or testing on businesses with more than 100 employees. The lawsuit they joined on Saturday challenged a separate rule overseeing federal contractors.

"We must take a stand for hardworking Utahns who are being forced to either get the vaccine or lose their jobs. The president is making a habit out of reaching beyond the limits of his authority.In doing so, he is unnecessarily exacerbating stress on the supply chain, damaging the economy, forcing workers to leave jobs and hurting American families. We cannot stand idly by and allow President Biden and his administration to impose yet another reckless and illegal executive action," said the joint statement by Gov. Cox, Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson, Attorney General Sean Reyes, Senate President J. Stuart Adams, House Speaker Brad Wilson, State Auditor John Dougall and State Treasurer Marlo M. Oaks.

Utah is joining Georgia, Alabama, Idaho, Kansas, South Carolina, West Virginia in the litigation.

"Plaintiff State of Utah is a sovereign State and has the authority and responsibility to protect its sovereign interests, public fisc, and the health, safety, and welfare of its citizens. Utah has many state entities that are federal contractors and thus Utah employs 'covered contractor employees' and maintains 'covered contractor workplaces; as defined by the Contractor Mandate," the lawsuit said. "These contracts are worth millions of dollars, if not more. Utah expects to continue pursuing government contracts in the future. Utah also has current contracts subject to renewal or the exercise of options. The federal government has presented Utah with contract modifications that incorporate the Contractor Mandate. Utah will face irreparable harm if forced to comply."


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26 FDNY firehouses out of service over vaccine mandate staff shortage

The FDNY shut down 26 firehouses across the Big Apple as of 7:30 a.m. Saturday because of staff shortages caused by the vaccination mandate, The Post has learned.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/30/...campaign=android_nyp


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Guess what folks?!

It’s now perfectly normal to expect children and young adults to have strokes and heart attacks!

From ‘We Love Trump.com’ comes -

Is the Media Programming Us to Normalize Strokes & Heart Attacks in Children and Young Adults?


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New Jersey hospital becomes first to mandate BOOSTER shots for workers who had J&J's single dose COVID-19 vaccine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...le-dose-vaccine.html

About 270 employees at University Hospital in Newark have until December 24 to get the booster. If they refuse to, they could be fired, the hospital's CEO said


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If you work and have not been affected by the vaccine mandates, no worries your turn is coming.

First they came for the Military, then Nurses, First Responders, Government Contractors, All workers (OSHA enforcement) on it’s way.

Incrementalism to avoid mass protest and backlash.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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Incrementalism to avoid mass protest and backlash.
Actually, these retards are precipitating an enormous economic catastrophe by pushing these absolutely stupid mandates during the middle of unprecedented supply chain and healthcare collapses. It should be all hands on deck right now, and instead, we have these retarded morons removing people from the workforce in virtually every industry across the country. They're killing the rest of small businesses that managed to survive 2020 with these mandates to accomplish....nothing. And now the new fight will turn to forced vaccination of children to again accomplish....nothing.

This isn't incompetence or stupidity folks. This is intentional. There simply is no other answer for it. Everything this administration does is focused on sowing chaos, conflict, and destruction.


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New Jersey hospital becomes first to mandate BOOSTER shots for workers who had J&J's single dose COVID-19 vaccine



Hopefully many more people will start to wake up and come to understand this immutable fact. And that is, that it will never end. Once you give them power, they will keep taking more. It's 15 days to slow the spread, then 30 days. Then just 6 months more. Then don't worry, just one more year. Then don't wear the mask, then absolutely you must wear the mask. But once we have a vaccine you don't have to wear a mask. Just make sure you're FULLY vaccinated. Then it's if you're fully vaccinated, you still must wear the mask, but don't worry you can't catch or spread covid. And now you can catch or spread the covid, but just get your booster shot. Then another booster shot. And then another. And then another. And then another. It. Will. Never. End.

Until we end it. And end it with prejudice.


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And now the new fight will turn to forced vaccination of children to again accomplish....nothing.
You are absolutely correct.
Most definitely they are coming for the children.

These mandates have got to stop.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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You notice not a peep from the teachers or unions about mandates?




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You notice not a peep from the teachers or unions about mandates?
Don't they have a carve out? Regardless, the teachers unions are part of the enemy camp.


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They're killing the rest of small businesses that managed to survive 2020 with these mandates to accomplish....nothing.


This is one of the biggest threats we're facing right now. Once the small businesses are done away with, the .gov will then hand their donor buddies in tech & big business the scraps, thus controlling all but the last of the holdouts. A ton easier to control/regulate fewer conglomerates/big businesses than it is millions of small businesses. This is just part of the scheme and it's just the beginning.


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