Biden touches down at O’Hare; Chicago trip aims to promote vaccine mandate for large employers

Biden is expected to visit a business in northwest suburban Elk Grove Village that mandates vaccines for employment.

“The president’s message will be clear: Vaccination requirements work,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said of the trip during her daily briefing Wednesday. “Vaccination requirements get more people vaccinated, helping to end the pandemic and strengthen the economy.”

https://www.chicagotribune.com...tscendc7m-story.html

This is a very unpopular position.
Americans may be split over whether or not they want to take the shot... but they are not split over whether or not they should have an individual choice.

People seem excited for the Fauci Documentary

Massachusetts Healthcare Providers to Release Thousands of Non-Compliant Workers Who Refuse Vaccination

The Associated Press puts the number in the “hundreds.” However, when you look at the statistics within the article the number of workers being released by Massachusetts healthcare providers is actually in the thousands.

BOSTON (AP) — Massachusetts hospitals are preparing to fire hundreds of employees who fail to comply with COVID-19 vaccination requirements designed to protect patient safety. Officials at hospitals across the state told The Boston Globe they don’t expect the number of employees who are fired because of vaccine mandates to result in cuts to patient services, but they are stepping up recruitment and retention efforts just in case.

At Mass General Brigham, the state’s largest hospital system, more than 95% of employees have been vaccinated, executives said, but about 4,000 have not yet received their shots or provided proof of vaccination ahead of the system’s Oct. 15 deadline. […] At Beth Israel Lahey Health, 91% of the 35,000-member workforce has been vaccinated, but about 3,000 employees have yet to comply with an Oct. 31 deadline.

[…] Worcester-based UMass Memorial Health Care is giving employees until Nov. 1 to get shots. So far, about 90% have been vaccinated, a spokesperson said. Terminations could affect patient care, Tony Berry said. The system has about 13,000 workers. “We will do everything we can to not have to resort to program closures, but … we may have no other choice,” he said. (read more)

It is important to note that many of the people mandated to be vaccinated within the healthcare system are not just nurses and doctors.

https://theconservativetreehou...ination/#more-218125

My wife works for a hospital... and the same thing is happening here.
Soon, there will be shortages which will lead to lower standards of care.
“Fire hundreds of employees... to protect patient safety.”
Lunacy!

Email from corporate today. Get the jabs by 12/8 or be fired. Provisions for medical exemptions and religious objections, but not for testing.

Edited to add: Northrop Grumman located in AZ.

For those facing this it would be helpful to know where, what type of employer (private or gov.) and what type of business you are in.

I am absolutely sorry that you are facing this.

This needs to fought tooth and nail and won. No compromise period.

ATT is doing this

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Biden touches down at O’Hare; Chicago trip aims to promote vaccine mandate for large employers

Biden is expected to visit a business in northwest suburban Elk Grove Village that mandates vaccines for employment.
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I'll tell you EXACTLY who he went to see. He had to go get a blow job from Scott Kirby. Something about the horse they both rode in on comes to mind......

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Originally posted by HuskySig:
Email from corporate today. Get the jabs by 12/8 or be fired. Provisions for medical exemptions and religious objections, but not for testing.

Edited to add: Northrop Grumman located in AZ.

I work for the other big player and we were told to expect a major announcement on Monday and the scuttlebutt is also “Get the shot by 12/8/21 or GTFO”

It’s going to wreak havoc on the defense industry when they can’t fulfill their contract deadlines after they’ve fired 25% or more of their employees.

Fucking idiots and it’s all because of President Potato

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Fucking idiots and it’s all because of President Potato

Ex-vice President Half-a-Potato.

By the way, these vaccines are all under Emergency use authorization still, including the Pfizer shot that is being administered. It seems like there should be an avenue to fight a company forcing an experimental drug onto its employees.

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By the way, these vaccines are all under Emergency use authorization still, including the Pfizer shot that is being administered. It seems like there should be an avenue to fight a company forcing an experimental drug onto its employees.

There will be lots and lots of lawsuits. It will drag on for years.

Here's one my daughter and son-in-law are trying to join as Plaintiffs.
https://storage.courtlistener....s.dcd.235825.1.0.pdf

The problem is... the deadlines are short and most people will go ahead and comply because they won't get these cases before a court before they lose their jobs.

So... Biden and team may eventually lose, but if they get 95% compliance they don't lose much.

No prospect of going to court and getting a stay until the case can be heard on the merits?

Biden Doesn't Know That Vaccinated Individuals Can Still Spread Covid

The sitting president of the United States, advised by the nation's top infectious diseases specialists, doesn't know what is now common knowledge; that vaccinated individuals can still spread Covid-19.

For those keeping track, this is the second major issue Biden had no knowledge of - the first being an international spat with France over a tri-lateral submarine agreement.

Speaking in Elk Grove Village, Illinois on Thursday, Biden urged more employers to institute strict vaccine requirements - calling them "tough medicine" that will help bring the United States out of the Covid-19 pandemic.

In addition to failing to recognize naturally-acquired immunity for individuals who have recovered from Covid, Biden made clear that he has no idea vaccinated people can still spread the virus.

"If you seek care at a healthcare facility, you should have a certainty that the people providing that care are protected from Covid and cannot spread it to you," Biden said, explaining the rationale behind forcing healthcare workers and other professionals to get vaccinated or lose their job.

Biden's latest false statement comes one week after his own CDC director Rochelle Walensky said that vaccines "can't prevent transmission."

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death - they prevent it, but what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "So if you’re going home to someone who is not vaccinated…I would suggest you wear a mask in public indoor settings," she continued.

Again, this is common knowledge by now:

• Emerging data suggest that Delta could spread more readily than other coronavirus variants among people vaccinated against COVID-19. (Nature, Aug. 12)
  
  
• Vaccinated People With Breakthrough Infections Can Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says (NPR, Jul. 30)
  
  
• UC study finds similarities in COVID viral loads between vaccinated, unvaccinated people (KTXL, Oct. 6)
  
  
• CDC study says COVID-19 can spread in vaccinated (AP, Sep. 21)
  

Alas, the president of the United States - or whoever wrote that speech - doesn't follow the science.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...als-can-spread-covid

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Originally posted by HuskySig:
Email from corporate today. Get the jabs by 12/8 or be fired. Provisions for medical exemptions and religious objections, but not for testing.

Edited to add: Northrop Grumman located in AZ.

By the way, is this due to the mandate that all government contractors have the vaccine?

Speaking of government contractors, my First Assistant Engineer told me his girlfriend--who works for NavSea--received a notice that "speaking negatively about the covid vaccine is now a fireable offense." One can speak glowingly about the vaccine all he or she wants, but say something negative about it whether at work or at home and you're terminated. Normally I'd be incredulous, but hardly anything about the responses to this virus surprise me much any more.

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Originally posted by HuskySig:
Email from corporate today. Get the jabs by 12/8 or be fired. Provisions for medical exemptions and religious objections, but not for testing.

Edited to add: Northrop Grumman located in AZ.

By the way, is this due to the mandate that all government contractors have the vaccine?

Yes, 100% the reason.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
The problem is... the deadlines are short and most people will go ahead and comply because they won't get these cases before a court before they lose their jobs.

So... Biden and team may eventually lose, but if they get 95% compliance they don't lose much.

Gee, its almost as if they planned it this way. Heads they win, tails we lose. The administration is beyond corrupt.

It might be an interesting challenge to Biden and Fauci:

An unvaccinated person with ability to self treat with ivermectin and other commonly available prescription drugs (prednisone, albuterol, what not).

Biden / Fauci vaccinated and access to modern hospitals that follow protocols (ie will not administer ivermectin).

Who’s more willing to get exposed to the virus?

Joe Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Doesn’t Exist. It’s Just A Press Release

Yes, we’ve heard all about Joe Biden’s alleged vaccine mandate for private companies employing 100 or more people. It was all over the news even before he announced it on September 9. His announcement has jeopardized the employment of millions of Americans and increased worker shortages in critical domains such as health care.

There’s only one problem. It’s all a mirage. Biden’s so-called vaccine mandate doesn’t exist — at least, not yet. So far, all we have is his press conference and other such made-for-media huff-puffing. No such rule even claiming to be legally binding has been issued yet.

That’s why nearly two dozen Republican attorneys general who have publicly voiced their opposition to the clearly unconstitutional and illegal mandate haven’t yet filed suit against it, the Office of the Indiana Attorney General confirmed for me. There is no mandate to haul into court. And that may be part of the plan.

According to several sources, so far it appears no such mandate has been sent to the White House’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs yet for approval. The White House, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), and the Department of Labor haven’t released any official guidance for the alleged mandate. There is no executive order. There’s nothing but press statements.

Despite what you may have been falsely led to believe by the media fantasy projection machine, press statements have exactly zero legal authority.

“There is nothing there yet that gives employers any mandate,” Stephanie McFarland, spokeswoman for the Indiana Occupational Safety and Health Administration, told me Oct. 6. “The president made an announcement on this asking OSHA to do it, but we’ve not yet seen anything come from it yet,” she also said. When the state agency gets any further information, she said, they’ll review it.

To impose the public perception of a mandate, the Biden administration is following an unusual rule-making process it also employed earlier this year, called an emergency temporary standard (ETS). The spring ETS rule took nearly six months to issue. Meanwhile, companies are telling reporters their vaccine mandates will have at the latest December deadlines. (For those who can’t calendar, that’s four months after Biden’s non-existent mandate was proclaimed. According to OSHA, an ETS takes up to six months to go into effect after the initial mandate is issued in the Federal Register — which, again, for the proclaimed 100-employee mandate hasn’t happened yet.)

Lawyers for big business were blunt about their love for this mandate mirage: “Everybody loves this cover,” Minneapolis employment lawyer Kate Bischoff told Bloomberg Law in September. “Many were already looking down the road at doing this, but the fact that they get to blame Biden is like manna from heaven.”

Using the ETS procedure instead of normal federal rule-making processes both allows the Biden administration to push its demands faster and without any public input or requirement of responding to public input, which is normally required of even legally laughable federal rule-making like this one would be. That is part of why ETS rules have been overwhelmingly overturned in courts.

“OSHA has used that legal authority only 10 times in 50 years,” David Rivkin Jr. and Robert Alt wrote in the Wall Street Journal in September. “Courts have decided challenges to six of those standards, nixing five and upholding only one.”

There are many other reasons any federal vaccine mandate would be obviously illegal and unconstitutional, Rivkin and Alt write, including that “The states have plenary police power to regulate health and safety. Congress has only those limited powers enumerated in the Constitution. That wouldn’t include the authority to impose a $155 fine (today’s equivalent of the $5 at stake in Jacobson) on an individual who declines to be vaccinated, much less to prevent him from earning a livelihood.”

But who needs the Constitution when you have an American people conditioned for compliance with even wildly outlandish things the screen people insist they must think and do?

Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal published a letter from Bruce Atkinson making several excellent observations about the nonexistent mandate, including the following:

The mandate’s nonexistence shields the Biden administration from legal challenges that may ultimately restrict the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s authority. Yet the mandate is still effective at compelling industries and companies into compliance, as it leaves room for any eventual issuance to target noncompliant entities. This implied cudgel is particularly effective on industries and companies that are dependent on federal spending or the goodwill of federal regulators. The nonexistent mandate also allows so-inclined state and local governments and companies to issue their own mandates, seemingly in lockstep with Washington. The Biden White House has been well-served by presenting a nonexistent mandate as a done deal.

Now, let me see, what presidential administration does all this remind you of? Why, that of Mr. “Pen and Phone” himself, Barack Obama.

His also wildly unconstitutional Deferred Action for Child Arrivals was simply a two-page memo, for example, but it is still allowing some 616,000 people to simply ignore major U.S. laws, and could easily be reinstated by courts as litigation continues nearly a decade later. It seems that, given such unchecked gains from openly lawless actions Democrats have turned into standard operating procedure over the years, Joe Biden feels free to reduce that constitutional contempt to simply a phone now.

What this “government by press release” also allows is for Republicans like Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb to complain about Biden’s tyranny while using zip, nada, zilch of their elected authority to stop it. Holcomb has used the same executive rule-by-decree throughout the lockdown era without effective restraint by a supermajority-Republican state legislature, even telling the press churches were required to deliver Christ’s Body and Blood his way while quietly keeping that part out of his executive orders, surely because government dictating religious exercise is obviously unconstitutional and would quickly have generated lawsuits.

All this allows weak Republicans and evil Democrats to shadowbox each other for the cameras while ordinary Americans suffer under their abdicated leadership. By the time Republican attorneys general get around to filing lawsuits over any eventually issued legal documents that fulfill Biden’s promises, the vast majority of people not wanting government to force them into medical procedures will likely be unemployed, forcibly injected with treatments that have almost no track record, forced from their education paths, provided with fake documents like these citizens are beneath COVID-rule-exempt illegal aliens, and all the rest.

This is how weak Republicans keep letting Democrats go right on gleefully disemboweling our rights just like they have nearly 50 million of the American unborn. Gee, thanks, “public servants.” Tell me another one about how you love American liberties and the Bill of Rights. I’ll believe that when I see you sacrificing anything substantial to fight for them.

What Democrats are doing as Republicans stand down yet again is a moral and constitutional abomination. Not even the fig-leaf pose of a pen signing balderdash-filled documents is needed for today’s Democrats. Whatever they say, you do. You have no rights or say in the matter, no possibility for objecting to even them forcibly injecting things into your own body and the bodies of your children.

These people believe they are royalty, and too many Americans are acting like they’re these losers’ serfs instead of citizens endowed by God with inalienable rights, including the right to consent — through elected representatives, not never-elected dictatorial bureaucrats — to rules that restrict our rights, everyday lives, and human dignity.

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Building on the excellent article above...
The purpose is to use the bully-pulpit to get companies to do it on their own, rather than actually issue a rule which could be challenged:

Biden Keeps Pushing Nonexistent Worker Vaccine Mandate, A Ploy That Keeps State Attorneys General From Filing Lawsuits

Joe Biden did it again today. A month after the first announcement, the White House occupant claimed again a Dept of Labor rule (via OSHA) is forthcoming, yet no such process appears to be taking place. This ploy now seems very purposeful, because without an actual policy or regulation visibly in place, state attorneys general cannot file a lawsuit or request an injunction.

As long as Biden keeps threatening a DOL worker vaccination rule sometime in the future, many employers will take action to require worker vaccination. This seems to be the actual strategy; bolstered by White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki caught off-guard last week when asked about it.

Psaki had no idea how to answer the question about any OSHA activity not taking place (link). Obviously Psaki didn’t expect the question, but it was also obvious that no background conversation had ever taken place amid the White House communication team.

Perhaps responding to an awakening on that issue, Joe Biden gave a speech today begging people to get vaccinated and again warning that a federal vaccine mandate for all workers was coming:

TRANSCRIPT – […] The Labor Department is going to shortly issue an emergency rule — which I asked for several weeks ago, and they’re going through the process — to require all employees [employers] with more than 100 people, whether they work for the federal government or not — this is within a — in the purview of the Labor Department — to ensure their workers are fully vaccinated or face testing at least once a week.

In total, this Labor Department vaccination requirement will cover 100 million Americans, about two thirds of all the people who work in America.

These requirements work.

[…] And as the Business Roundtable and others told me when I announced the first requirement, that encouraged businesses to feel they could come in and demand the same thing of their employees. (more)

Biden then went on to praise companies who are doing it on their own.

Others are starting to notice as this article in the Federalist notes:

[…] According to several sources, so far it appears no such mandate has been sent to the White House’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs yet for approval. The White House, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), and the Department of Labor haven’t released any official guidance for the alleged mandate. There is no executive order. There’s nothing but press statements.

Despite what you may have been falsely led to believe by the media fantasy projection machine, press statements have exactly zero legal authority.

https://theconservativetreehou...awsuits/#more-218146

Update on recovering from Corona/COVID/Wu-Flu Delta variant. Supposedly there is a correlation between Delta and hearing loss. I'm fully recovered lung wise however my hearing seriously declined, to the point I have a hard time understanding my 9 yr old daughter.

I went to an audiologist and specialist doctor, and they have seen viral caused hearing loss (they wouldn't confirm the COVID link), and if you treat it early enough, steroids may reverse the loss. I hope so. I'm not ready to wear hearing aids, but will do if needed.

I hope this helps anyone else in this forum who has hearing loss that happens suddenly. Don't just accept there is a decline.

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Joe Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Doesn’t Exist. It’s Just A Press Release

All of us that work for Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Leidos, etc are subject to China Joe's EO though

That is for all the other companies he plans to bludgeon with OSHA "rules", right?