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Of the vaccinated who got sick, how severe were the symptoms? Did any vaccinated people end up in the hospital?

. I don't know any more details. He is out of hospital and at home with oxygen. This is secondhand info from people that are close to him. He is in a different department and shift than myself. From what I gather, his wife went to the bathroom and didn't come out, was found passed out. So it sounds like symptoms were severe and several ended up in hospital. I work 3rd shift so I may hear more info tonight. I believe the vaccine he received was J&J.

Starting Saturday night, residents will again be required to wear masks in indoor public spaces, regardless of their vaccination status.

Complete article:

https://www.latimes.com/califo...-amid-covid-19-surge

L.A. County will require masks indoors amid alarming rise in coronavirus cases

By LUKE MONEY, RONG-GONG LIN II
JULY 15, 2021 UPDATED 5:15 PM PT

One month ago, Los Angeles County and the rest of California celebrated a long-awaited reopening, marking the tremendous progress made in the battle against COVID-19 by lifting virtually all restrictions on businesses and other public spaces.

Now, the coronavirus is resurgent, and the nation’s most-populous county is scrambling to beat back the latest charge of a pandemic.

Starting Saturday night, residents will again be required to wear masks in indoor public spaces, regardless of their vaccination status.

The latest order not only puts the county further at odds with both the California Department of Public Health and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — both of which continue to maintain that vaccinated people need not cover their faces indoors — but puts officials in the precarious position of asking the inoculated to forfeit one of the benefits recently enjoyed.

“This is an all-hands-on-deck moment,” said Dr. Muntu Davis, the county’s health officer.

The new order, which comes a little more than two weeks after the county recommended the same protocols as a precaution, will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. Saturday — and Davis said it will be similar to the masking requirements that were in place before the June 15 reopening.

“We’re not where we need to be for the millions at risk of infection here in Los Angeles County, and waiting to do something will be too late given what we’re seeing now,” he told reporters Thursday.

The order will continue to allow indoor restaurant dining, although people will need to keep their masks on when they’re not eating or drinking.

It will apply everywhere in the county except Long Beach and Pasadena, which have their own independent health departments. Both cities said Thursday that they already recommend everyone, even the fully vaccinated, wear masks in crowded indoor settings, though Pasadena is “reviewing options for a mandate,” according to a spokeswoman.

L.A. County’s rise in community transmission has accelerated dramatically since California fully reopened on June 15. For the weeklong period that ended that day, L.A. County averaged 173 new coronavirus cases a day.

For the seven-day period that ended Wednesday, the county’s average was 1,077 new cases a day. On Thursday, Davis reported 1,537 additional cases.

Countywide, COVID-19 hospitalizations doubled over that same time frame — from 223 on June 15 to 452 as of Wednesday.

Still, cases and hospitalizations are still more than 93% below what they were at the peak of the winter surge. And deaths remain at historically low levels, at an average of about seven a day.

While officials don’t expect hospitals to ever be as stressed as they were during the winter surge, it’s still possible the healthcare system could be significantly affected if trends continue.

“There is still time to take action and protect people through vaccination, since we are starting from a lower baseline rate,” Dr. Roger Lewis, who directed COVID-19 hospital demand modeling for the L.A. County Department of Health Services, wrote in an email. “It is critically important that everyone eligible for vaccination who has not already been vaccinated does so as quickly as possible.”

An uptick in cases, combined with the presence of the highly infectious Delta variant of the coronavirus, was behind L.A. County’s urging in late June that all residents wear masks in public indoor spaces.

Cases have increased rapidly since then, and county health officials now believe more direct intervention is needed.

Davis said he expects the new order will remain “in place until we begin to see improvements” in community transmission.

He characterized universal indoor masking as one of the more effective ways to curb the spread without interrupting operations at businesses and venues.

But, he acknowledged, further intervention could be necessary if conditions deteriorate.

“Anything is on the table if things continue to get worse, which is why we want to take action now,” he said.

He emphasized, though, that the increase in cases is overwhelmingly taking place among those who are not fully vaccinated for COVID-19. Data show that those who have completed their inoculation course remain well protected — including against the Delta variant, which is believed to be twice as transmissible as the conventional coronavirus strains.

Between Dec. 7 and June 7, the unvaccinated accounted for 99.6% of L.A. County’s coronavirus cases, 98.7% of COVID-19 hospitalizations and 99.8% of deaths.

The vaccines are also believed to be essentially as effective against the Delta variant as other variants. During June, 86% of people diagnosed with the Delta variant in L.A. County were not fully vaccinated — in the same range as the Alpha variant, where 91% of people diagnosed were not fully vaccinated; the Gamma variant, 92%; and all other variants, 89%.

But officials suspect that unvaccinated people have stopped wearing masks in indoor public settings and businesses, even though they’re still required to do so. Fully vaccinated people were previously allowed to largely shed their face coverings, with some exceptions, such as on public transit.

The new mask order, Davis said, “really is about making this a universal practice. It’s the easiest thing to do in terms of ensuring that we’re all protected, regardless of the risks that we have.”

Still, the renewed restrictions in L.A. County are undoubtedly a blow to a populace eager to put COVID-19 in the rearview mirror.

“It is clear that the Delta variant is here and spreading rapidly, overwhelmingly in our unvaccinated communities, and we need to take action now before we see uncontrollable spread,” Hilda Solis, chairwoman of the county Board of Supervisors, said in a statement.

She added: “This is only a temporary action, until we can lower our cases and continue getting more people the doses they need.”

But with similar increases across the state, other counties are also urging residents to take additional precautions.

This week, health officials in Sacramento and Yolo counties issued similar calls for all their residents to wear masks in indoor public settings, though neither has made that mandatory.

“The drastic increase in cases is concerning — as is the number of people choosing not to get vaccinated,” Sacramento County Public Health Officer Olivia Kasirye said in a statement. “Our best protection against COVID-19 continues to be the vaccine. We urge all eligible residents to get vaccinated in order to protect themselves, and their family and friends.”

Statewide guidance on face coverings remains unchanged, according to the California Department of Public Health. However, the department “supports local health departments, like Los Angeles County, making stricter policies based on the conditions in their community.”

“Vaccines remain the best protection against COVID-19, including the highly infectious Delta variant,” officials wrote in a statement to The Times. “We urge all eligible to get vaccinated, as it is the most important thing we can do to stop the spread of the virus.”

Already, cases are ballooning across California.

Orange, San Diego and San Bernardino counties have all had their daily case averages more than double since late June, and the state’s latest weekly average of 2,980 new coronavirus cases per day is up 175% from two weeks ago.

The CDC now considers L.A., San Bernardino and San Diego, along with Riverside County, to have “substantial” community transmission — the second-worst classification on the agency’s four-tier scale — as all recently recorded seven-day case rates that were over 50 per 100,000 residents.

California as a whole is still categorized as having “moderate” community transmission, the second-lowest tier.

Despite increasingly urgent calls to get vaccinated as cases rise, California’s inoculation pace continues to tail off.

Over the last seven days, providers throughout California have administered an average of just over 56,000 doses per day, Times’ data show. Though that figure could rise as more reports come in, it won’t be anywhere near the high of the rollout, when hundreds of thousands of shots were going into Californians’ arms each day.

Only 52% of all L.A. County residents are fully vaccinated, while nearly 60% have received at least one shot. Some experts think it would take 70% to 85% of all residents to be vaccinated to achieve “herd immunity” against the coronavirus — when the sustained transmission of the virus is interrupted.

Health officials say there are many reasons a person may be unvaccinated.

Some may still be too young to receive the shots, or have an underlying health condition that prevents them from doing so. Others may be wary of potential side effects, or unable to get the time off work.

Another common sticking point is that all three available vaccines have been authorized only for emergency use at this point, and haven’t yet received full approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

But there’s undoubtedly a segment of the population that’s steadfastly opposed to getting inoculated — either for personal or political reasons, or because they’ve come to believe some of the vaccine disinformation that’s spread widely on social media.

U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy issued an advisory Thursday outlining the dangers of health misinformation.

Such advisories are typically reserved for urgent public health threats, and Murthy said myths swirling around the vaccines — like the persistent but inaccurate belief that you can get COVID-19 from the shots — qualifies as such.

“Misinformation takes away our freedom to make informed decisions about our health and the health of our loved ones,” he said during a White House press briefing. “During the COVID-19 pandemic, health misinformation has led people to resist wearing masks in high-risk settings. It’s led them to turn down proven treatments and to choose not to get vaccinated. This has led to avoidable illnesses and deaths.”

Hey crue-dell!

I see you’re in Bardstown, KY. Home of that delicious bourbon I gather?

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will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. Saturday

If Los Angelesians are in such dire straits that they need to go back into strick lockdown measures why the delay? The next three days millions upon millions could die.

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Originally posted by sigalert:
Hey crue-dell!

I see you’re in Bardstown, KY. Home of that delicious bourbon I gather?

Born and raised, never left. Going on 40 years.

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Natural Infection May Offer Better Protection Against Delta Variant, Israeli Health Ministry Says

I guess that's good. I tested positive today. So far, it's like a minor cold for me. Some congestion, and a bit of fatigue.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Where have all the rational, brave people gone?

Many moved to regional areas to escape the lockdown nonsense, and the social media squawkers.

The egotistical political, and health leadership along with "the sky is falling" MSM?
Elections for many state and Fed due next year.

Hopefully, people will remember the malarkey, stuffups and 'don't care' attitudes.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
Starting Saturday night, residents will again be required to wear masks in indoor public spaces, regardless of their vaccination status.

Complete article:

https://www.latimes.com/califo...-amid-covid-19-surge

L.A. County will require masks indoors amid alarming rise in coronavirus cases

If I were a Los Angeles resident I’d tell that Crypt Keeper health director to go kindly intercourse herself…

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
Starting Saturday night, residents will again be required to wear masks in indoor public spaces, regardless of their vaccination status.

Complete article:

https://www.latimes.com/califo...-amid-covid-19-surge

L.A. County will require masks indoors amid alarming rise in coronavirus cases

If I were a Los Angeles resident I’d tell that Crypt Keeper health director to go kindly intercourse herself…

They love it here. Being told what to do is like a warm blanket. Government is their religion.

Between the supposedly high number of cases last year and vaccinated, why is la worried? Shouldn’t most of the population be resistant now?

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Originally posted by cjevans:
With our Westminster constitution, there is no protected free speech, only that for political free speech.

This is not a free speech issue, but rather, a free will issue. The people blathering on social media are accomplishing exactly nothing. This will all end when half a million of you (or more) simply say, "nope, we're done with that BS", and go about your business as normal. Same in the country. The solution is to render these morons in government powerless to do anything about it.

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Between the supposedly high number of cases last year and vaccinated, why is la worried? Shouldn’t most of the population be resistant now?

Need we cover this again? This is not about public health, but rather, about control over the public.

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L.A. County will require masks indoors amid alarming rise in coronavirus cases

For government officials who claim to want to convince people to get the shot so they can "go back to normal" they sure don't act like it.

But then commies gonna commie...

I really hope that Australia doesn’t keep bottling up the rage over these endless house arrest orders and the pressure cooker valve blows and they do a South Africa.

I can see something like that coming, maybe not as violent but still something that will shock the world.

South Africa had plenty of problems prior to COVID. Australia does not have the huge racial issues that intially prompted the violence. Our resident SF member should have an opinion on the matter.

I've said it before

unfortunately the solution to this is violence against the people that keep imposing these asinine requirements based on stupidity rather than logic

if someone is sick, treat the sick person and leave the rest of us the fuck alone

the power-mad assholes only understand one thing

power

they forget that they're supposed to work for us, we don't work for them

permanent solutions will be messy but will send a strong message to those that follow on that we will no longer tolerate assholes

Just got informed that I will receive no pay for the time I'm off due to covid, because I didn't get the vaccine.

I see no way at all that this could possibly make people treat their symptoms themselves, and continue going to work.

Pretty sure the south american contractors that are all over the plant are doing just that, too.

Interesting information on who got sick:

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CDC study: More than 99% of COVID victims had preexisting conditions

"Just 5.1% of all hospitalized COVID patients had no pre-existing condition, compared to 94.9% who had at least one. Only 7.4% had a single pre-existing condition, with 39.3% having two to six conditions, 31% having six to ten , and 17.3% having more than 10 pre-existing conditions."

"The median age of patients hospitalized with COVID was 68, while the median age of those who died with COVID was 74. Nearly half (49.8%) were over the age of 75."

https://www.israelnationalnews...ews/News.aspx/310003

Compelling Case Against COVID ‘Vaccine’ Approval
by Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn
https://noqreport.com/2021/07/...id-vaccine-approval/

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CDC study: More than 99% of COVID victims had preexisting conditions

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A huge portion of the population has preexisting conditions. Obesity is the main one.