Do you really think the FDA won't approve it? What happens if they don't?

FDA targets January for Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine full approval decision

https://www.foxbusiness.com/li...ne-approval-decision

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

A huge portion of the population has preexisting conditions. Obesity is the main one.

Obesity is a pre-existing condition? Goodness.

Yep.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

A huge portion of the population has preexisting conditions. Obesity is the main one.

Obesity is a pre-existing condition? Goodness.

Absolutely. It is also a primary cause for Vitamin D deficiencies, which has been front and center in studies regarding ones immune response to combating Covid19.

Obesity is a huge pre-existing condition. Additionally it often leads to many other conditions. Heart problems, cholesterol issues, diabetes, circulation problems, Vitamin D deficiency, etc.

Well how about that? A pre-existing condition a person actually chooses to have.

Man, do you realize that you average two posts a page in this thread?

A question.

Are governments supposed to prove that side-effects are not caused, or are the result of, a vaccine?

The Australian TGA (Therapeutic Goods Administration) claims that "the observed deaths and injuries may not be associated with covid-19 vaccines".
Because the TGA has not done these studies to prove or disprove.

A similar conundrum as stated by the CDC?

... thinking ... hmmm. '1=1' = true

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Senator Rand Paul:

Didn't realize Texas Dems supported my repeal of the mask mandates!

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This is what hypocrisy looks like; and the democRAT supporters won’t bat an eye over it. They are truly sheep.

Absolutely criminal what was done to our children.

Ours were fortunately young enough to where they did not have to leave school, but we did everything we could in our power to make life as “normal“ as possible including going to see Nana and Pops every Sunday and no one died like all the doomsayers warned. My wife’s college roommate in comparison proudly masked up her 4 year old and kept him away from his grandparents for over a year, my wife is no longer speaking to her.

This is really sad and was 100% preventable but the people forcing all this simply don’t care:

Five Times More Children Committed Suicide Than Died Of COVID-19 During Lockdown: UK Study

I've flown commercial for two business trips during this mess. Total of 8 flights segments. You have to wear a mask in the airport and on the plane, and you have to put your mask back on between sips of a drink or bites of food. No exceptions for those who are vaccinate or already recovered from infection. I forgot while sipping my free drinks (1st class upgrade, benefit of FF status) and a flight crew member across the aisle rather rudely reminded me.

Of course the Texas commie party doesn't follow the rules the commies insisted had to be implemented for air travel. They are all vaccinated and know the entire mask mandate is a charade. They should be more careful because it looks like most of the females have an obvious pre-existing condition.

Had it out with my sister in law this morning. She texted my wife, scolding her for going to the baseball game last night (our school HS band, which my son is in, played the National Anthem before the game) and she’s not vaccinated (neither of us are, nor ate the 2 of my kids that are old enough). I texted her asking to stop pestering my wife with this crap. We have discussed it and are holding off for now. Furthermore, my wife had a colonoscopy a few weeks back and reacted to the prep. Main ingredient, Polyethylene glycol. Guess what, if you’ve had a reaction to PEG you shouldn’t get the mRNA vaccines.

This went on for a bit, her never once responding to the facts I presented, only responding with emotion. Of course, this is the same liberal SIL who cried when she got the vaccine because she was relieved. Basically she’s been living in fear for the past year. Sorry, not happening here. If you have a comorbid condition or are elderly, then yes you should probably get the vaccine. Otherwise healthy, I’m not so sure. Overall, it’s a personal damn decision and certainly not her business.

Next family function ought to be fun (if they even show up…they skipped the last 2 because we told them we did not require masks in our house……

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
Senator Rand Paul:

Didn't realize Texas Dems supported my repeal of the mask mandates!

3 Fully Vaccinated Democrats Test Positive For Covid After Packing Private Plane, Fleeing Texas to Block GOP From Passing Voting Laws

At least three fully vaccinated Texas Democrat state lawmakers tested positive for Covid-19 after packing in a private plane and fleeing to DC.

Link to article.

I'm already almost completely over the crud. Now my mom has the same symptoms. She's recently had the pfizer vaccine, so this is a bit odd. Maybe I had a false positive, and it's just the summer cold I thought it was to begin with.

A friend who after 4 years, got his kidney transplant and is doing well, had to wait, Doctors orders, to get his second shot now has just 50% of his returned to normal immune system. He and his Mrs. no longer make their 2 trips per week to the Casinos to play the machines. He is afraid to be around people.

The missing link in the COVID vaccine equation
By Terry Paulding

Before I get to the missing link subject of this article, I want to be clear that I think there’s a broader missing link in the leftist brain. That link is for logical thinking and truth recognition. We’ve been asked — no, it’s demanded of us — to ignore critical thought for so long, that some people have forgotten how to think and question. We all need to exercise our minds, and be vocal, too.

The specific missing link I’m talking about is in the COVID dialogue. As I watch California attempt to send its populace into another panic over the Delta variant, I realize that much angst could have been (still can be) avoided if we do one simple thing: Even if you staunchly believe all the COVID news, believe (erroneously) in the safety of the vaccines, believe (erroneously) that masks are a help in stopping the spread, and respect the (craven) people and government entities providing all this information, there’s a piece of the jigsaw that’s been purposely left out of the box.

That piece? Antibody testing. This is the test that will tell if you’ve had COVID and, therefore, developed natural antibodies. We know that people who had the virus have antibodies, which do a fine job of preventing them from getting COVID again. Those who have already had COVID are also the people who have had the worst reactions to the shots. I want to be clear about one more thing here – I’m talking about adults. In my humble opinion, given that children don’t succumb to COVID infection, they should never be vaccinated for it.

About 34 million people have had, and survived, COVID. The death rate from those who had the virus is between 1-2%, and that number reflects primarily the elderly and people with co-morbidities. Nobody who survived COVID needs to have the vaccine.

If you have antibodies, they are better than having had the jab, in terms of keeping you from further infection. A large percentage of people who’ve had the shots are getting “breakthrough“ cases of COVID. Vaccines certainly don’t protect everyone, so the claim that they do is a blatant lie.

The logical sequence of events, from the start of the big vaccination drive, should have been (1) get your antibody test and then (2) if you don’t have antibodies, get the vaccine if you want it.

A “vaccine passport,” is simply a form of government control. Without it at this point, we are punished by being excluded from most activities of a fun nature, things such as concerts, cruises, etc. Instead of a vaccine passport, if they switched to an Immunity Passport, the dread millions of us have of taking the shot would be allayed. It shouldn’t say whether you have had a vaccine, it should simply say whether you have immunity to COVID. That is “equity” in the realm of health care, even under the current draconian system.

The test, per WebMD, is a simple finger-prick blood test done at a lab. The three-page article is not dated, but one might assume that WebMD keeps its articles relatively up-to-date. It mentions that the government is “looking for” 10,000 people to get this test, to determine how many people have had COVID without knowing it. It adds a link to email the NIH to participate in this study. It says the test is “claimed to be” 100% accurate, and that the government monitors such facts. One further thing it talks about is the donation of Convalescent Plasma, which has been shown to help with treating people with COVID. Again, that’s something that has seemingly fallen by the wayside in the vaccination push, but its website, at least, still exists.

This antibody test, to clarify, is not an alternative to the Coronavirus test. That one is advised if you think you’re sick and want to be sure it’s with COVID. This one is for when you think you have had COVID at some point.

From my POV, I’ll be happy if I have antibodies. The Delta variant appears less deadly, and it’s easily transmitted. I’m out and about a lot, and I just got over a few days of being sick with a headache and sore throat, muscle aches, a slight fever – the apparently mild symptoms of Delta. So maybe I’ve had it.

I’d like to know, no matter what, because having all the facts makes an informed decision easier. I’ve been sick, mildly, a couple of other times since the beginning of COVID. Being a healthy person, I don’t stay sick for long. If I could get my “passport” stamped IMMUNE, I’d be happy. Since I’ll never take the jab, it would allow me to live my life as a free citizen once again.

The absolute lunacy of not doing what I just suggested is to the benefit of those who want to maintain tight control over society, rather than the people they supposedly serve.

https://www.americanthinker.co...accine_equation.html

A newcomer to politics, my congresswoman introduced a bill to ban federal vaccine "passports." https://harshbarger.house.gov/...al-vaccine-passports

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About 34 million people have had, and survived, COVID. The death rate from those who had the virus is between 1-2%

I know you didn’t create this data, but this is a perfect example of a agenda driven, false information statistic. These numbers are based on positive tests results/suspected only. Approximately 45% of those that contract he virus don’t even become symptomatic and are likely never even tested. After 1.5 years of this thing being in the wild, there is no WAY only 10% of the US population had it. It’s virtually impossible. The true mortality rate is unknowable because it would require every person to undergo a test and obtain a result. If we are extremely charitable and double the number of people that caught it, mortality drops below 1% before you rule out the obvious falsely reported deaths. I personally think it is far lower than that.