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Chicago launches concert series for fully vaccinated people.

I bet the groups will be lame.


https://wgntv.com/news/chicago...y-vaccinated-people/

Chicago will see the return of cultural events this summer, including a concert series solely for people who are fully vaccinated for COVID-19, officials announced Tuesday.

The Protect Chicago Music Series begins later this month and will require ticketholders to show their COVID-19 vaccination cards and photo identification. Only those who are two weeks past the second vaccine dose or single-dose Johnson & Johnson will be eligible to attend.

“We will never mandate that Chicagoans get a vaccine but this is a creative way to incentivize people to step up and get it, especially younger people,” Chicago Department of Public Health Commissioner Allison Arwady said in a statement. “If we’re to get out of this pandemic, we need people to get vaccinated. It’s safe, it’s effective, it’s free and it’s the best way to protect yourself, your family and your community.”

The news came as Mayor Lori Lightfoot on Tuesday announced the return of several other festivals and cultural events. Already, city officials have said the Chicago Auto Show will return with safety measures including crowd limits.

The cultural events include music festivals, pop-up concerts, dance events and theatre with safety protocols in place. Lightfoot said the city will also promote vaccinations at some events.
 
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Biden administration announces support for COVID-19 vaccine patent waivers

The Biden administration has announced support for waiving intellectual property protections for COVID-19 vaccines.

The move was in a response to the “extraordinary circumstances” of the COVID-19 pandemic, US Trade Representative Katherine Tai said in a statement.

“The Administration believes strongly in intellectual property protections, but in service of ending this pandemic, supports the waiver of those protections for COVID-19 vaccines.

“We will actively participate in text-based negotiations at the World Trade Organisation (WTO) needed to make that happen.

“These negotiations will take time given the consensus-based nature of the institution and the complexity of the issues involved.”

The US has come under increasing pressure from countries like India and South Africa to support waivers. Pharmaceutical companies eyeing big profits have lobbied hard to keep them in place.

“The Administration’s aim is to get as many safe and effective vaccines to as many people as fast as possible,” Ms Tai said in her statement.

“As our vaccine supply for the American people is secured, the Administration will continue to ramp up its efforts — working with the private sector and all possible partners — to expand vaccine manufacturing and distribution.

“It will also work to increase the raw materials needed to produce those vaccines.”

The global rollout of the vaccine has been lopsided.

In January more people had been immunised in Israel — with its population of less than 10 million — than in Africa and Latin America combined.

The WTO has for months been facing calls to temporarily remove the intellectual property protections on COVID-19 vaccines.

Proponents say that would help boost production in developing countries that so far have received far fewer jabs.

But that notion has been met with fierce opposition from pharmaceutical giants and their host countries, which insist the patents are not the main roadblocks to scaling up production, and warn the move could hamper innovation.

WTO chief Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala said the way the issue was handled was “critical”.

“We need to have a sense of urgency on how we approach this issue of response to COVID-19 because the world is watching,” she said, describing equitable access to the tools to fight the pandemic as the “moral and economic issue of our time”.

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The IP legal world are conversing with their Pharma clients ... this will be interesting to watch unfold.

Putting aside profits (well why not, right?), protection of intellectual property (IP), is paramount across many industries. Trade secrets.

And it's been written here before - pharma will eventually get to making pills for ongoing revenue.

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Perhaps I'm interpreting this wrong, but this sounds like a good thing. If these big pharma companies can't profit off of this vaccine, will the huge push to have everyone take it possibly die down a bit? Furthermore, will the idea of having to get a yearly booster shot get swept to the side? I sure hope so. Without the profit incentive, I'm hoping it becomes "just another vaccine," and people will be able to simply choose if they want it or not without the concern of such things as vaccine passports. But maybe I have all that completely backwards.


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Not sure if this is the best thread for this, if not sorry. I met with my first case of ‘vaccine bigotry’ or whatever you want to call it. My wife’s’ sister who lives in NY, and has been at the absolute forefront of ‘pandemic bad’ (she has actually not been in Any kind of a store in a year) said after my wife, her sister asked nicely last night “hey, would love to come up and visit now that NY has lifted it’s restrictions. Her response? Sorry, you can’t come visit till you are completely vaccinated. Can’t trust you. Thought that was kind of sucky (nobody in her immediate family has any issues health wise). But, since my wife won’t see this…..Yay. But, I think this kind of crap will get worse…..
 
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Make sure you ask your sister-in-law for proof that she doesn't have AIDS the next time covid and visiting family comes up. See how she responds to that.


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One of my sisters in law is a kool aid drinking liberal. Saw her a few weeks back at a funeral. She was so excited to tell me that she got her vaccine. Her and her husband had to drive 3 hours away to get them. She told me she cried when she got the vaccine. Not tears from the pain, mind you, but of relief. I could only chuckle inside.... she has been living the past year in fear, apparently. Unreal.....

Same SIL was going to stop by on Easter for a quick visit. We were in the middle of prepping dinner and told them they’d have to come inside (they planned on visiting on the porch). They decided to skip the visit since they couldn’t be outside.
 
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Most vaccinated nation Seychelles sees Covid spike

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...id-spike/ar-BB1gnMeP

The Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated over 60% of its population against Covid-19, is bringing back restrictions amid a rise in cases.

The archipelago of nearly 100,000 people recorded close to 500 new cases in the three days to 1 May and has about 1,000 active cases.

A third of the active cases involved people who had had two vaccine doses, the country's news agency said.

The rest had either had a single dose or were unvaccinated.

Schools have been closed and sports activities cancelled for two weeks. Bars, restaurants and shops are to close early and some gatherings have been banned.

"Despite all the exceptional efforts we are making, the Covid-19 situation in our country is critical right now with many daily cases reported last week," Health Minister Peggy Vidot told a press conference on Tuesday.

More than four-fifths of the active cases were among Seychellois people, with the remainder made up of foreigners.

The Seychelles, which relies on tourism for much of its income, began vaccinating its population in January using Chinese-made Sinopharm vaccine doses donated by the United Arab Emirates.

By mid-April about 60% of the vaccine doses administered in the country were Sinopharm, with the rest Indian-made AstraZeneca vaccine doses, Bloomberg reported.

Trials in China and the United Arab Emirates have put Sinopharm vaccine efficacy at 79% and 86% respectively.

The World Health Organization is expected to approve the Sinopharm vaccine and other Chinese-made vaccines for use later this week.

In April, China's top disease control official said the efficacy of the country's Covid vaccines was low, although he later insisted his comments had been misinterpreted.

Researchers in Brazil have put the efficacy of another Chinese-made vaccine, the Sinovac vaccine, at 50.4%.


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They decided to skip the visit since they couldn’t be outside.


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In April, China's top disease control official said the efficacy of the country's Covid vaccines was low, although he later insisted his comments had been misinterpreted.

Researchers in Brazil have put the efficacy of another Chinese-made vaccine, the Sinovac vaccine, at 50.4%.

Apparently the Chinese-made vaccines don't work:

Mainstream media don't want you to know the difference between vaccines that work and vaccines that don't
By Howard Richman

So far two countries have exited the worldwide COVID-19 pandemic using U.S.-made vaccines (Israel and the United States), while two other countries have seen infection rates rising despite heavy use of Chinese-made vaccines (Chile and Seychelles).

Success of U.S. vaccines

Israel achieved herd immunity by vaccinating almost 60% of its population using the U.S.-made Pfizer vaccine. According to a chart published by Worldometer, the COVID death rate has fallen to almost zero in Israel.

Similarly, the United States exited the pandemic the week of March 20, when just 25% had been vaccinated, compared to 45% today. That was the week when deaths in the United States, according to the "Excess Deaths" statistics published by the CDC, stopped exceeding the threshold of what is considered to be a normal number.

Failure of the Chinese Vaccines

CNBC reported that Chile has been experiencing rising cases of COVID-19 despite having one of the world's best vaccination rates. As Thomas Lifson noted in American Thinker, the CNBC article buried the fact that Chile was using a Chinese vaccine.

A similarly deceptive report came out Wednesday on the Bloomberg website, this time about the Seychelles, where 62% of the population is fully vaccinated, yet COVID cases are still rising. The headline of the story indicated that vaccines in general are ineffective, but, as in the Chile story, buried deep inside was the fact that Seychelles was mostly using a Chinese vaccine.

Vaccine Effectiveness

The two primary U.S.-made vaccines (Modern and Pfizer) use the mRNA technology, which is about 95% effective. The European vaccine (AstraZeneca) uses a spike protein technology that is about 70% effective. The Chinese vaccines (Sinovac and Sinopharm) use a killed viral particles technology that appears to be ineffective.

The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines were actually the second and third mRNA vaccines developed in the United States to fight COVID-19. The first was the successful Inovio vaccine, which Dr. Anthony Fauci's NIH buried in seemingly endless clinical trials.

https://www.americanthinker.co...cines_that_dont.html



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Governor Walz here is to announce something tomorrow in regards to loosening restrictions. He has not yet telegraphed what that might be only saying Minnesotans should expect to have a normal summer. Well thank you Governor but shove it I've been living normally without you telling me I can do so. It will be interesting to see how his definition of normal aligns with mine.



The rumor that has been leaked is that he will tie various stages to percentages of vaccinated residents. Basically, take the heat for the restrictions off of himself and put them on unvaccinated neighbors who can be shamed and pressured. He's taking a page from Whitmer's playbook.

I suspected something like this. Drive the wedge between the vaccinated and the uncleansed. Now that they have hit the vaccine wall of 40% of the state vaccinated time for the next phase of bringing pressure to bear. Shaming and restricting freedoms of those who resist. What's particularly disgusting is the number of people who are gleefully looking down their nose at their neighbors who do not wish get vaccinated and will have freedoms restricted because of it. These same people will have no problems seeing their uncleansed neighbors hauled off to some quarantine compound. Until they realize the end game of that we are all the same and will be treated as such in the end.


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Originally posted by lastmanstanding: Shaming and restricting freedoms of those who resist. What's particularly disgusting is the number of people who are gleefully looking down their nose at their neighbors who do not wish get vaccinated and will have freedoms restricted because of it.


Absolutely. My wife and I both got the vaccine, but calling people out for their decision is bullshit. I decided it was worth it to me, but I may be proven spectacularly wrong. To dismiss others' concerns has no place in the discussion, IMO.
 
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From ‘childrenshealthdefense.org’ -

Vaccine Makers Claim COVID Shots Are ‘95% Effective’ — But What Does That Mean?

Are Pfizer and Moderna misleading the public about the efficacy of their COVID vaccines by withholding the fact that there’s another way to parse their data — one that has more real-world significance?

In 1954, writer and repentant cigarette industry lobbyist Darrell Huff wrote the best-selling book, “How to Lie with Statistics,” with the aim of teaching the general public how to decode the “secret language of statistics.”

In his introduction, Huff wrote: “Averages and relationships and trends and graphs are not always what they seem.” He added: “There may be more in them than meets the eye, and there may be a good deal less.”

Almost 70 years later, Huff’s admonition that a “well-wrapped statistic” can “sensationalize, inflate, confuse and oversimplify” seems more relevant than ever. For a pertinent modern-day example, one need look no further than COVID vaccine developers’ “headline-worthy” but misleading claims about their products’ “95% effectiveness.” As BMJ associate editor Peter Doshi and others have been confirming for months, these efficacy data are largely a matter of statistical smoke and mirrors.

Why are manufacturers’ claims about vaccine effectiveness misleading? Pfizer and Moderna declined to share with the public the fact that there is another way to parse their data that has more real-world significance.

Examining a statistic called absolute risk reduction — the number of percentage points that an individual’s risk goes down if they do something “protective” — the two companies’ COVID vaccines barely make a dent at all, reducing someone’s risk of experiencing COVID symptoms (the clinical trials’ endpoint) by less than 1%. This is the practical number that people are likely to care about most.

Knowing the paltry real-world impact of the injections on someone’s risk of developing COVID symptoms, how many people swayed by the misleading “95% effective” mantra might instead have decided to refuse the vaccines — products that have revealed themselves to be highly unsafe and, in some cases, fatal?

Unfortunately, topping its November efficacy claims for people 16 years and older, Pfizer just announced its COVID injection is “100% effective for 12-to-15 year-olds.” This announcement sets the stage for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) predicted authorization of Pfizer’s unlicensed vaccine for the adolescent market.

Parents who know that COVID rarely poses a threat to children and adolescents may already be planning to keep their kids away from the experimental shots, but there are other reasons for taking Pfizer’s latest grandiose claims with a grain of salt.

Absolute vs. relative risk

In November — just before the FDA issued its initial Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for Pfizer’s COVID vaccine — Doshi cautioned the public that Pfizer’s and Moderna’s efficacy results seemed dramatic only because the companies derived them from relative risk data.

Absolute risk, simply explained, is “the likelihood that an outcome will occur.” Relative risk “compares the risk of a health event … among one group with the risk among another group.”

Pfizer told the FDA that eight (of approximately 22,000) volunteers in its vaccine group developed a PCR-confirmed case of COVID-19, versus 162 of 22,000 volunteers in the placebo group. Moderna reported a similar spread — five out of 15,000 in the vaccine group versus 90 out of 15,000 in the placebo group.

When one does the math, the Pfizer clinical trial numbers showed: “The risk reduction in absolute terms [was] only 0.7%, from an already very low risk of 0.74% [in the placebo group] to a minimal risk of 0.04% [in the vaccine group].” (Dividing 0.7 — the difference between the two groups — by 0.74 is the mathematical calculation that produced the touted “95% effective” number).

Although the eight versus 162 PCR-confirmed COVID cases in the Pfizer trial may sound like a big difference to the casual reader, Peter Doshi subsequently alerted the public to the fact that Pfizer skewed its analysis by excluding more than 3,400 individuals with non-PCR-confirmed symptoms of COVID — individuals split almost evenly across the vaccine and placebo groups.

As Doshi wrote in The BMJ: “With 20 times more suspected than confirmed cases, this category of disease cannot be ignored simply because there was no positive PCR test result. Indeed this makes it all the more urgent to understand.”

Factoring in both the suspected and confirmed cases, Doshi noted, would drop the 95% relative risk figure down to 19%.

In 2019, the author of a pre-COVID paper, “How to Communicate Evidence to Patients” (quoted in a post-COVID blog), explained that relative risks “can exaggerate the perception of difference” between groups — especially, as in the case of COVID vaccines and many other medical interventions, “when the absolute risks are very small.”

Other researchers agree the concealment of “underlying absolute risks” (and the tendency to “overestimate” effects presented in relative terms) are a “major weakness” of relative risk data. For these reasons, many researchers insist that one risk measure “cannot be interpreted without the other.”

Elaborating on the importance of providing a “complete picture” and communicating both measures, European researchers writing in 2017 explained how relative risk data alone can mislead:

“When relative risks are used for the presentation of effects of a treatment, this can make the treatment seem better than it actually is. For example, investigators may claim that a certain treatment reduces mortality by 50% when the intervention reduces death rates from 0.002% to 0.001%, an improvement the clinical relevance of which may be questioned.”

Risk reduction … or risk intensification?

In the vaccine arena, a subtle byproduct of a narrow focus on relative risk-based efficacy statistics is that the latter often eclipse meaningful discussions of safety.

Pfizer’s announcement of 100% effectiveness in younger adolescents seems intended to accomplish just such a goal, drawing attention away from the 4,178 post-COVID-vaccine deaths now reported (through May 3) to the U.S.-based Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).

In Europe, the COVID vaccine fallout has been equally alarming: The EudraVigilance database lists 8,430 deaths (through Apr. 24) — and more than 354,000 injuries — following injection with one of the four emergency-authorized shots (made by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, Janssen/Johnson & Johnson or AstraZeneca).

Supplementing reports to official databases, thousands of individuals have posted COVID vaccine injury stories on social media. Facebook recently deleted a group for COVID-19 vaccine victims and families that had in excess of 120,000 followers — the group “had been gaining more than 10,000 followers per week.” The company’s action is part of an unabashed Big Tech effort to curtail online discussions of vaccine risks and rebrand them as “misinformation.”

Drawing attention to the mounting evidence of COVID vaccine dangers, physicist and medical doctor Richard Fleming, Ph.D., M.D., J.D.. recently described increased risks for inflammation and blood clotting as well as a worrisome type of protein clumping associated with dementia and other neurological disorders.

Fleming called on the Biden administration to immediately reevaluate “whether there’s any demonstrated efficacy” of the COVID shots. In Fleming’s view, the companies’ own data show that the injections have “no statistically significant benefit” and “make zero difference in stopping COVID.”

Talking back

In the concluding chapter of “How to Lie with Statistics”, Huff encouraged members of the public to be more discerning and to “talk back” to and “face down” phony statistics. To this end, he recommended asking five simple questions, all of which could be helpful as the public scrutinizes the vaccine industry’s blanket pronouncements about COVID vaccine efficacy and safety and regulators’ moving-target statements about herd immunity:

1. “Who says so?” This question entails assessing phenomena like researcher bias, use of ambiguous statements, “selection of favorable data and suppression of unfavorable” and reliance on improper measures.

2. “How does he know?” Evaluating this question includes considering biased or improper sampling, small sample sizes and low response rates, including researcher attempts to cover up these defects.

3. “What’s missing?” Do the researchers rely on meaningless averages or fail to contextualize their findings?

4. “Did somebody change the subject?” Huff noted that “one thing is all too often reported as another.”

5. “Does it make sense?” With this final question, Huff cautioned that many a flawed statistic — particularly in the medical realm — “gets by only because the magic of numbers brings about a suspension of common sense.”

As Children’s Health Defense Chairman Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. noted in January, “the absence of a placebo group in post-vaccination surveillance systems makes it easy for self-interested pharmaceutical and regulatory officials to undercount injuries by attributing them to coincidence.” Kennedy added, “Coincidence is turning out to be quite lethal to COVID vaccine recipients.”

The BMJ’s Doshi has shown that vaccine manufacturers are not above inappropriately excluding data, deviating from study protocols (and then hiding the deviations), using unofficially unblinded study groups and keeping raw data (even when taxpayer-funded) to themselves.

One way for the public to push back against this “strategic chicanery” and lethal “coincidences” is to follow the lead of rigorous questioners like Doshi, querying the “trustworthiness and meaningfulness” of reported results at every step.

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Biden, Saint Fauci and the CDC really screwed themselves with their messaging on all of this. When you have woke dirtbags like this guy now starting to question it all, you’ve lost your way:

Trevor Noah: "Why Are People Who Get The Vaccine Still Being Made To Wear Masks?"


Savannah Guthrie was questioning Saint Fauci the other day why he’s saying her kids had to wear masks outside in 90 degree weather at summer camp, he was smirking and chuckling about it but she looked like she wanted to reach through the camera and choke him out! Eek


 
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I watched the Savannah Guthrie clip.

She needs to be asking the 5 key questions listed above.

If she did that, she would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Fauci is full of shit and she would strip that mask off her kid. She might even have the courage to call him out on air. Wouldn't that be a shock!


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“Is this one of the most effective vaccines in the world or does it not work? It’s not clear messaging especially if you’re desperately trying to convince people to get the vaccine.”


And this is the problem with left. They are concerned about how they feel or what they think, and not what actually exists, the reality.

His problem isn't with what the vaccine actually does or doesn't do, his problem is with the messaging. I'm assuming he doesn't realize that what they say has zero impact with how the vaccine performs.


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I’d pay money to watch Savannah Guthrie shit-beat that smirking little troll Fauci, yes sir.


 
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OK, Gov, now that you’ve relaxed the face diaper requirement for indoor wear with less than 1000 people, provided everyone is vaccinated, who is going to be your Nazi goon at the entrance to say “YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE”? Mad

https://www.wave3.com/2021/05/...emorial-day-weekend/

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WAVE) - Gov. Andy Beshear has pulled the state mask mandate for small private or business gatherings starting Thursday, so long as every person in the group is 100% vaccinated.
Beshear made the announcement during his daily briefing on the coronavirus outbreak in Kentucky.

The governor also said starting May 28, leading in the Memorial Day weekend holiday, all events indoors and outdoors under 1,000 can be held at 75% capacity. That includes facilities like retail stores, salons, restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, weddings, and memorial services.

Events with more than 1,000 people starting May 28 can be held at 60% capacity.

There were six deaths reported to be COVID-19-related on Thursday. In addition, Beshear reported 655 new cases of the virus. The governor also said the state was seeing a 3.51% positivity rate.

As of Thursday, at least 1,855,111 people [Kentucky population is 4.4 Million, per the 2020 Census] were vaccinated against the virus.

“We really do need more people to get vaccinated, though,” the governor said. “Please, treat your neighbor as yourself. Get vaccinated and protect everyone around you.”


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Well the fear is going to shift from the virus to the unvaccinated. Those who chose to be vaccinated will be praised and be allowed special treatment. Entrance to concerts and other venues while the unvaccinated will be denied not by the government perhaps but the owners of the venues. But the government will happily encourage and allow this type of discrimination.

Then at some point the numbers of infections are going to increase (or this is what we will be told) and then those freedoms that the vaccinated have enjoyed will be scaled back and it will be the fault of those who chose to not get vaccinated. This is a quote from doctor Osterholm here in Minnesota after Governor Walz's announcement of eventually relaxing restrictions predicated on the amount of people who get vaccinated.

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“For vaccinated individuals, in a private home or wherever, party hard and enjoy it, because you’ve earned it and you can feel safe in doing that,” Osterholm said. “And, that’s what we have to help people understand that this is going to make a real difference in getting our communities back to this new normal.”


Hogwash and bullshit on top of hogwash. There will never be normal again only their vision of a new normal. Keep the people divided as much as possible because with division comes ease of control.


The more they push... the more resistant I become.



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What's Behind Vaccine Hysteria?

If you are reluctant to get the COVID vaccine and beginning to feel overrun by forces pressuring you to get vaccinated, you aren’t alone and you aren’t crazy. There’s a reason you feel the way you do. You are being manipulated.

We are being bombarded with commercials pushing us to be socially responsible. Medical professionals, celebrities, and folks in our communities admonish us not to shirk our civic duty. Suddenly, the vaccine is the only way to normalcy.

Friends and family openly brag about their vaccinations and gasp in astonishment when they find out you haven’t decided or, worse, that you will not get it. Doctors who inquire also give that disapproving look.

The president routinely stokes fear, recently decrying the unvaccinated. Andrew Cuomo had the gall to suggest that the unvaccinated “could kill their own grandmother.”

Adding to the pile-on, we are now besieged with “incentive” programs offered by public-private partnerships that essentially divide us into the vaxxed and the unvaxxed… and it’s becoming downright creepy.
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First, the simple “get jabbed, get a gift” incentives. Following a similar program in Connecticut, New Jersey’s governor launched the “Shot and a Beer” program where those who get vaccinated in May get a free beer at participating breweries upon presentation of a “vaccination card.” He’s also promoting a “Grateful for the Shot” program that whisks churchgoers away from religious services to vaccination sites.

Jersey Shore nightclub D’Jais is hosting a vaccination clinic that will give patrons a Summer 2021 VIP Card. Ooh. The vaccinated are very important people who must be publicly acknowledged.

West Virginia Governor Jim Justice is probably using tax dollars to give $100 savings bonds to anyone between 16 and 35 who gets vaccinated.

The incentives then intensify with the lure of special treatment. Cuomo teamed up with the Yankees to offer free tickets to fans who get vaccinated at the stadium. Same for the Mets. And, to protect the vaxxed from the unvaxxed, they will be seated separately -- even though the vaxxed can’t catch COVID from the unvaxxed. If you don’t understand that, then the entire field of immunology is turned on its head and…the Sun revolves around the Earth.

This all has the odious markings of a two-tiered society where the vaxxed get special treatment. Will they get preferred seating while the unvaxxed languish in the nosebleed section? Don’t be surprised if the mollified masses -- vaxxed, privileged, and enamored by their own civic virtue boo pictures of the unvaxxed as they appear on the jumbotron. Oblivious to how vile this sounds, Cuomo said, "if you're vaccinated that's one category, you're unvaccinated, that's another category." You, to the right. The rest, to the left.

The goal? To shame anyone who opts out into submission.

In New York City, De Blasio announced free admission to those who get vaccinated under the blue whale at the Museum of Natural History and added: "We're gonna be looking to do incentives just like that to give people great opportunities when they get vaccinated." Will discounts and freebies give way to tax breaks, elevated status in society, preferences in college admissions, jobs, and government contracts? Will the unvaccinated have to sit at the back of the bus and drink from different water fountains?

New York already has the Excelsior Pass that provides digital proof of vaccination; Chicago has plans for a “vax pass” that provides access to concerts and other events. Meanwhile, one individual has already been arrested for counterfeiting cards… but let the murderers, rapists, and violent left-wing rioters run free.

Washington’s governor Jay Inslee just “released guidance on non-vaccinated-only sections, so [there will be] vaccination segregation, at outdoor stadiums, at graduation ceremonies for schools, even your church.”

From my vantage point, the “vaccine hesitant” are very analytical, very calm, and very patient. They are not anti-vaxxers by any stretch but want to make an informed, data-driven decision, weigh the costs and benefits, and do what they deem best for themselves and their families. They are willing to wait for more information about long-term effects before plunging the needle into their arms.

The hysteria is coming from individuals in positions of power who appear to be ignoring the science and are acting highly irrational. They don’t seem to grasp what the unvaccinated understand: the vaccines do not have FDA approval but only Emergency Use Authorization which allows unapproved vaccines to be used in public health emergencies. While manufacturers still had to conduct all three phases of clinical trials and present compelling evidence of safety and effectiveness before the FDA would issue the EUA, the normal approval process would take longer and yield more information about the long-term side effects of this radically new and potentially paradigm shifting mRNA technology.

Once those most at risk have been vaccinated and deaths and hospitalizations of our most vulnerable decline, and the virus is on the wane, should we be vaccinating the entire population without a thorough understanding of the long-term side effects? Is the Biden Administration turning the entire country into a massive clinical phase trial?

The younger and healthier the individual, the more rational it is for that person to say: "The risk of dying or suffering grave consequences from a COVID infection are known and they are low. Taking the vaccine presents many unknowns."

Hysterical people are scrambling to figure out how to get the hesitant to capitulate. This heavy push is making people wary: if it’s so obvious that this vaccine is the answer, why are you trying so hard to convince us with all of these incentives?

Perhaps University of Pennsylvania behavioral economics expert David Asch, MD, MBA, can explain. He studies how people make health decisions. As opposed to utilizing incentives (beer and tickets) or rules (mandated vaccines to attend school), people can be cajoled into getting the vaccine using a variety of techniques that are lighter touches than either rules or incentives. They’re from behavioral economics, they’re a gentle form of paternalism -- and yet they’re very powerful.

There’s something called ‘social norming.’ As much as we like to think that we make our own decisions, the truth is that one of the most motivating factors for humans is doing what we think everyone else is doing.

Paternalism presumes the target is stupid and easily controlled. Slavery is paternalistic. Paternalism is very powerful, but not at all gentle and we should resist it with all of our might.

The messaging is designed to tug at our heartstrings and pique our desire to again run with the normal crowd; high-five fellow baseball fans; be a part of something good, something special, something almost religious… to save lives. Everyone else is doing it. I don’t want to be “that guy.”

Utilizing the key ingredients of propaganda -- psychology and marketing -- Asch explains, “Don’t try to use rules based on rational ideas.” To compel the “vaccine hesitant” to abandon their faculties and reach for the needle, “we need to know how to hitch our [incentive] programs to those predictable psychological foibles [predictable ways we are irrational].” Not with reason. Or facts. And certainly not with science.

https://www.americanthinker.co...accine_hysteria.html



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