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Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...iI&feature=emb_title

George Washington gave Hydroxychloroquine to his troops?

Watch the Dems turn into a bunch of anti-vaxxers now, it’s starting with Dopey Joe Biden trying to poo-poo the progress being made by these various pharmaceutical groups.

The Democrats are TERRIFED of Operation Warp Speed and how fast and well it seems to be going. A nightmare scenario for them is a viable vaccine is found by October which promises to allow “normal” to return. They don’t want normal, they can’t have normal.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

George Washington gave Hydroxychloroquine to his troops?

I believe Dr. Gold misspoke as that drug was not approved for use in the US until 1955. I think that her statement is due to the extreme level of stress she must be under. In fact, General Washington "broke the law" by inoculating his troops with small pox. This saved his army.

"In February 1777, while encamped at Morristown, Washington became convinced that only inoculation would prevent the destruction of his Army. Emphasizing the need for secrecy and speed, Washington ordered the inoculation of all troops. Because Virginia forbade inoculation, Washington asked Governor Patrick Henry to support the program, writing that smallpox "is more destructive to an Army in the Natural way, than the Enemy's Sword."

You can get the full story here:

A Deadly Scourge: Smallpox During the Revolutionary War

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I believe Dr. Gold misspoke as that drug was not approved for use in the US until 1955.

I was thinking she meant George Patton but that was still to early.

George Washington used quinine to treat malaria.

It has some of the same properties as hydroxychloroquine. Think of willow bark and and it's synthetic equivalent aspirin.


George Washington, mosquitoes, and the American revolution.

https://delanceyplace.com/view-archives.php?p=3950

"A month after the opening salvos of the American Revolution at Lexington and Concord in April 1775, the newly appointed commander in chief of the Continental Army, George Wash­ington, had a request for his political masters in the Continental Con­gress. He urged them to buy up as much cinchona bark and quinine powder as possible. Given the dire financial pressures of the squabbling colonial government, and the dearth of pretty much everything needed to fight a war, his total allotment was a paltry 300 pounds. General Washington was a frequent visitor to the quinine chest as he suffered from recurrent bouts (and reinfection) of malaria since first contracting the disease in 1749 at the age of seventeen.

"Luckily for the Americans, the British were also drastically short of Peruvian Spanish-supplied quinine throughout the war. In 1778, shortly before they entered the fray in support of the American cause, the Spanish cut off this supply completely. Any available stores were sent to British troops in India and the Caribbean. At the same time, the mosquito's mer­ciless, unrelenting strikes on unseasoned British troops lacking quinine during the final British southern campaign -- launched in 1780 with the capture of Charleston, the strategic port city and mosquito sanctuary­ -- determined the fate of the United States of America.

"As J. R. McNeill colorfully contours, 'The argument here is straight­forward: In the American Revolution the British southern campaigns ultimately led to defeat at Yorktown in October 1781 in part because their forces were much more susceptible to malaria than were the American. . . . [T]he balance tipped because Britain's grand strategy committed a larger proportion of the army to malarial (and yellow fever) zones.' A full 70% of the British Army that marched into this southern mosquito maelstrom in 1780 was recruited from the poorer, famished regions of Scotland and the northern counties of England, outside the malaria belt of Pip's Fenland marshes. Those who had already served some time in the colonies had done so in the northern zone of infection and had not yet been seasoned to American malaria.

"General Washington and the Continental Congress, on the other hand, had the advantage of commanding acclimated, malaria-seasoned colonial troops. American militiamen had been hardened to their sur­roundings during the Seven Years' War and the turbulent decades head­ing toward open hostilities against their king. Washington personally recognized, albeit short of scientific affirmation or medical endorsement, that with his recurrent malarial seasonings, 'I have been protected be­yond all human probability or expectation.' While they did not know it at the time, this might well have been the Americans' only advantage over the British when, after twelve years of seething resentment and discontent since the passing of the Royal Proclamation [of 1763 that prohibited land sales to colonists], war suddenly and unexpectedly came."

... on page 178 of this thread, chellim posted a reference to chloroquine, from the Virology Journal, Dr Fauci's ever loving source of medical information.

Take a moment and read the article.

Published 22 August 2005.

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus

Extract:
Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV). No effective prophylactic or post-exposure therapy is currently available.

... and ...

" ... chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells ..."

As stated by many in this thread, and other threads, when the truth be known by all, there's gonna be a reckoning for some of these political jackasses.

Thanks wcb6092, I had no clue about that.

Re: the fauci grilling...

Smarmy a-hole would say that crowds spread da 'rona but wouldn't admit that the protests did. Leave those decisions to someone else huh? What an ass.

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Re: the fauci grilling...

Smarmy a-hole would say that crowds spread da 'rona but wouldn't admit that the protests did. Leave those decisions to someone else huh? What an ass.

Yes, smarmy. Oh, he's "not in a position to determine what the government can do in a forceful way"?

I couldn't find it, and I was too irritated by this piece of shit to do an extensive search to find it, but I swear I heard just recently that he used that exact word, "force," and encouraged the government to use its full *force* to require measures such as masks.

That video with Jordan was extremely irritating with the way Fauci was smiling and shaking his head with such a disgusted look on his face. Smarmy is a perfect word. I can't stand him.

Politics, Not Science, Keeping Schools Closed

Denmark, The Netherlands, Finland, Belgium, and Austria all opened schools and “found no evidence of increased spread of the novel coronavirus after schools reopened.” The same was found in scientific studies in France, Sweden, and Germany. A leading British epidemiologist goes even further to claim there is not a single known case of a teacher being infected of coronavirus from a student anywhere in the world.

Since there could still be a rare school outbreak, such as experienced in Israel, students with high-risk household members should be given a distance education option, and teachers who believe themselves or their households to be at high risk should be allowed to teach remotely, balancing the risk for all parties. This way healthy students can be be educated by healthy teachers. With science overwhelmingly pointing to reopening schools, why do so many schools intend to remain closed?

https://www.realclearpolitics....s_closed_143847.html

Yesterday it was reported that Mississippi had the high positivity rate for Covid in the country. Of course no one mentioned the sample size or the fact that you need a medical referral with symptoms to be tested. In Illinois anyone that wants testing can be tested. These statistics are meaningless without some context.

Very recently, Fauci said that governments should be as forceful as possible in regards to mask orders. Government should be practically unrestrained in how it deals with pandemics but rioting and looting? He just can't give any recommendations.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
....These statistics are meaningless without some context.

I've been saying this for quite some time. Sometimes forcefully. These statistics are UTTERLY DEVOID of context. I get funny looks, like they don't understand the word "context".

How is Fauci still employed here? Hasn’t his leadership and recommendations been a complete and utter failure? I mean according to the media and the gov, right?
He’s clearly just enjoying the spotlight. Trump get vilified with every breath he takes, why not replace drF with someone who has a focus on rebuilding. The mds who have just been at a desk or in academia have no idea what the real world needs.
Trump, time to lead. Get on it!

I didn't want to start a new thread on this subject. My BIL is 57 years old, has high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, but isn't overweight.

Four months ago, he had a "small" heart attack while at work (he's a Family Medicine doctor in Long Island), and was admitted to the hospital. He was discharged a couple of days later, told to follow up with a cardiologist a week later for an echo. Comes back a week later, and the waiting room is filled with people coughing on each other, several of them had no masks. My BIL had one of those off brand, dodgy KN95 respirator.

A week later, he's at home, and started to notice some fever, and a mild cough, and felt dizzy. He checked his O2Sats, and was at 90-91%. He guessed what it could be and went in. COVID-19 was diagnosed on a nasal PCR, and he was admitted for O2 support. His sats kept dropping, and he worsened. They told him that because of his risk factors he had a 85% chance of dying from this, and that they wanted to intubate him. They suggested he have a talk with his family, because he would be sedated and might not be able to speak with them later... Yeah, he had that talk with his kids.

He was extubated three weeks later, and may have had a stroke while in the ICU. He has had ongoing chest pain, joint pain, difficulty walking, and initially had difficulty swallowing too. I don't see him going back to seeing patients in his office, or performing surgery, or C-sections. It's over for him, at least for the time being.

But against all odds, he's alive.

^wow, as Confucius once said, "all men have two lives, you start the second when you realize you only have one". Godspeed on his recovery. I truly hope after the dust settles on this crisis we have learned a few lessons. Your BIL may fall under the description of "TOFI" (thin outside, fat inside).

I preordered this in January before the SHTF. Release date was July 21. Every doctor should have a copy.
Why We Get Sick-Dr. Benjamin Bikman
https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Everyone keeps asking how Fauci is still employed.

You do realize he has a vested financial interest in the vaccine?

Fauci is a figurehead of a big government agency filled with bureaucrats.

I work in a big company, and part my job is being a global subject matter expert. Go up two or three levels and you will hear cringe-worthy statements from executives that have never actually done the type of work they are now presiding over.

One time, John Kerry as Secretary of State gave a speech standing in front of a project I did in another country as a testament to international cooperation. He got most of the actual details wrong, but spoke with confidence from the script.

I imagine that every time Fauci speaks, his subject matter experts cringe. The man is way past retirement age. They probably spend lots of time briefing him on the script and then he goes off on his own like with the "goggles" statement.

Clearly he has a cushy job with a great salary or he would retire on a fat federal government pension. I do not anticipate working to his age, unless I am retired and working on a high-dollar contract.

His refusal to answer a simple question about the effects of demonstrations and riots on WuFlu transmission prove that he is a political hack who is toeing the far left party line. Did he think Trump would fire him if he said that BLM demonstrations are a transmission risk and should be curtailed? Certainly not. So who is he trying to please if not his boss?

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One time, John Kerry as Secretary of State gave a speech standing in front of a project I did in another country as a testament to international cooperation. He got most of the actual details wrong, but spoke with confidence from the script.

^^^^^^^^^^^
That kind of stuff is always hilarious. It is funny how the members of the media ask the Hospital CEO{a non physician} a clincal question and he answers it with nonsensical remarks.

^^^^

Yep, and the media is worse. Reporters are not experts on anything. They have no education or experience in the subjects they report on. They just have training and experience in reporting. They are clueless about the real world, and every time they get an assignment they go to ACADEMICS and GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES to get "expert" opinions.

Those of us in the real world know that Academics and Government are also clueless about reality because they do not have to deal with it on a day-to-day basis. Academics and Government employees are not engaged in actual business.

Of course, those of us in business and technology are not allowed by our employers to talk to the press. That is for the equally clueless public relations people that say politically correct things instead of reality.