We are 13 days into self-isolation and it is really upsetting me to witness my wife standing at the living room window gazing aimlessly into space with tears running down her cheeks.

It breaks my heart to see her like this.

I have thought very hard about how I can cheer her up.

I have even considered letting her in - but rules are rules.

^^^^haha

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
CBS News Busted Using Overwhelmed Italian Hospital Video During Report About New York City

This by the way is beyond egregious. It'd be shocking if it weren't so common with these fake news hacks.

Didn't CBS just months ago do something similar with the Knob Creek night shoot saying it was Syria?

And no one by the way who saw that aired live saw or will see the correction. Despicable.

Thinking of a recent thread about etiquette for visitors in one's home, has there been any advice on shoes? If the virus can be airborne or surface-borne, it surely can be ground-borne. Less likely to get to your face but tying shoes, kids, pets could be possible vectors. Not trying to open another can of worms but I don't recall hearing any shoe advice.

^^ Well, you'd want to stick with flip-flops and other slip-on type shoes because you wouldn't want to touch your shoes or shoelaces and then touch your face.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
Thinking of a recent thread about etiquette for visitors in one's home, has there been any advice on shoes?

You shouldn't be having visitors.

But if you can smell their feet, I'd assume there'd be 'rona bugs riding that same vector.

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Less likely to get to your face but tying shoes, kids, pets could be possible vectors.

I'm renaming my dog... Corona.
She doesn't practice "social distancing"; she has poor hygiene and licks everything and everyone.

Sunday we went out to get "take out". Driving down the state highway to the first stop sign, there was a couple sitting along side the road. They were holding a sign that said they need shelter. Simple enough, but they also said they got kicked out. Reading between the lines, they'd been kicked out of the shelter they were in. I assume the homeless shelter down in mid-town.

Anyone here know how they get kicked out of that kind of place? Probably fighting. Or drinking too much. They can pull at our heart strings all they want. They didn't seem clean enough to come into my home, but there is a nice woods down along the river. Lots of people discarded clothing and bedding for them to use. Except its all soiled, it would seem like a deserving place for them.

Well it’s my turn I suppose.
Received a call from my Administration office ordering myself & my partner not to report to duty and that we are on 14 day ordered quarantine due to exposure and symptoms of virus from the officers we relieved who have both tested positive and one has been admitted to the hospital with pneumonia.

Awaiting my order to report for testing.
So much for vacation next week...

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Originally posted by Ripley:
Thinking of a recent thread about etiquette for visitors in one's home, has there been any advice on shoes?

Here you go...NSFW or kids(swearing)...

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Originally posted by rburg:
Sunday we went out to get "take out". Driving down the state highway to the first stop sign, there was a couple sitting along side the road. They were holding a sign that said they need shelter. Simple enough, but they also said they got kicked out. Reading between the lines, they'd been kicked out of the shelter they were in. I assume the homeless shelter down in mid-town.

Anyone here know how they get kicked out of that kind of place? Probably fighting. Or drinking too much. They can pull at our heart strings all they want. They didn't seem clean enough to come into my home, but there is a nice woods down along the river. Lots of people discarded clothing and bedding for them to use. Except its all soiled, it would seem like a deserving place for them.

. Around here alcohol and drug use that is apparent will get one discharged.

Trump is in his element at press conferences. He knows what's going on. He's relaxed. He doesn't take shit. He gives it right back when he gets it.

Just try to imagine ol' Dementia Joe "leading" such press conferences. Disaster.

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Originally posted by Ripley:
Thinking of a recent thread about etiquette for visitors in one's home, has there been any advice on shoes? If the virus can be airborne or surface-borne, it surely can be ground-borne. Less likely to get to your face but tying shoes, kids, pets could be possible vectors. Not trying to open another can of worms but I don't recall hearing any shoe advice.

You're correct - viral spread can occur from fomites (touching things), but less than droplet spread (as far as we know the virus particles don't survive very well by themselves just riding on the air - aerosol). They need some sort of carrier, such as a droplet of moisture, sneezed or coughed into the air and landing on something. That's why minimizing personal contact is so important at this point. And even though it's been reported the virus can survive days on surfaces, the practical time for these virions to survive on a given surface (in enough numbers to infect someone) is probably a matter of hours, or less. The virions aren't floating around outside on a breeze, for example, waiting to settle on the soles or top of your shoes. A passing crowd of joggers though, coughing in your face, would be a bad thing. Right now, a very bad thing. Wiping off any unknown surface, right now, is not a bad idea. And if you touch something, washing your hands before coming anywhere near your airway is a really good idea too.

And although I learned early in life and practice never try to break up a bar fight, some comments on the data we"re seeing. From what we now know across the planet, from really a lot of population data, is that this is not a world-killing organism. It's a really bad one. Worse than expected from early reports, and the genetics of this specific organism. And I confess worse than I expected. But humanity will survive. That's a significant prediction, because it as easily might not have. Really. We won the lottery. I could be wrong, but I'm giving you my honest assessment.

All that said, the numbers behind the data you see on the news indicates that collectively about 2% of identified cases may ultimately die in the US. That's separate and independent of a calculated case fatality or mortality rate. By that I mean, what you see now is that of almost 190,000 positive cases identified in the US, about 2% have died. That"s a dynamic number of course, because the deaths were from cases identified earlier than the number of cases reported today, but it's a rolling average, and it includes higher averages from cities like NYC and Chicago.

We have ramped up testing substantially, and it can be expected we will see a significant increase in identified infections in the next few days or weeks. We can expect from what we now know, that about 2% of those may die as well (subject to the success, or not, of ongoing mitigation efforts, and developing herd immunity - that number, by hope and by God will eventually be lower). But when we get to 300,000 identified cases, we may, possibly will, from data right now, see 6,000 fatalities. When we get to a millon identified infections, we may see 20,000 deaths. We will then have exceeded deaths from the 2009 H1N1 outbreak in the US. And we may very likely see a million tests by the end of April, or even mid-April, accelerating from there.

We don't currently know how many people have actually been infected by SARS-CoV-2, in the US or anywhere else. We may never know, unless we accomplish universal antibody testing., which is unlikely - hence the inability to calculate an accurate, absolute CFR. What we do know, right now from verified data, is the number of patients who die out of the number of identified cases. Worldwide, that number is almost 5%. In the US, right now, that number is 2%. Those should be sobering enough numbers for any of us.

Thanks, Doc H.

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Good Lord.

^^^^^ holy cow....

Mambo dogface to the banana patch.

Where's your handlers, Joe? Hiding again, are they?

Good god that guy is comedy gold. Lord help us if he’s actually ever put in a real position of authority.

Go home Joe.....you’re drunk.

My math has 45 days total then. I never would've imagined we would get to that.



And Joe Biden...lord almighty, keep putting that man on the air; it's too good.