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Funny, I was in a hospital in Florida day before yesterday and other than a couple questions at the front door and getting my temperature taken it was business as usual. The lab was a bit busy with testing for it, but otherwise they were quite calm and seemed to have plenty of PPE. | |||
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Exactly! These hospital admin types are bringing in 2-300K a year and they can’t even figure out that they need to have a stockpile of common PPE? Fire their asses. ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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I think you will soon see efforts refocused on the locations and cities hit the hardest rather than a blanket response. There are hospitals being overwhelmed, but it is not all across out country. It is happening in high population urban areas. The entire state of Michigan is on lockdown - all 83 counties. The crisis is in the 3 most populated counties. It is at the point now hospitals in surrounding counties will be picking up patients because the primary 3 counties are being overwhelmed. Most of the counties in Michigan have had minimal impact, but where it has hit hard it is getting bad. | |||
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I have a brother in law in North Carolina md, a Oby/Gn in southwestern Colorado,a cousin Plastic surgeon in St. Louis, my daughter is an executive in a 12 hospital group in Chicago. All report PPE critically short, ICU are near maximum, moderate to high numbers of staff in quarantine because of primary exposure. Hopefully Remedsvir from Gilead proves to show a high level of antiviral activity. | |||
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The whole mask thing is completely overblown and overused. Here's some info on masks: Masks are not necessarily designed to protect the wearer. In large part the mask is designed to protect the general public from the person who is wearing the mask. Think of a surgeon — they wear the mask to protect the patient from their own germs. The same goes for us. In situations such as the current COVID-19 outbreak, the mask’s primary purpose is to keep you from touching your face. By preventing you from touching your nose and mouth the chance of transmission decreases significantly. Transmission can be decreased by simply placing a mask on the sick patient. This keeps those particles that they would normally transmit into the air or onto you, close to them and on their mask rather than yours. Most people wear masks because they see other people wear a mask. Just because other people wear masks doesn’t mean you need a mask. It's been recommended that if someone does not work within 6 feet of patients for 10 or more minutes, then you do not need to wear a mask.
Actually those of us in healthcare DO have a very good idea of what's going on and what is about to happen. But thanks for joining the chicken little fan club. Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew. | |||
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I'll watch the video later, but for starters, the article is not from doctors, it's from the New York Times. They found one 27 year old Dr. and a quote him saying "It's apocalyptic." We don't know what the context was. Could have been his date last night for all we know. | |||
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Just for clarity and to hammer on King Cuomo. The money he could have used to but ventilators he put into Panasonic solar panels here in Buffalo. A friend of mine took a job there but left about a year ago because he was sure the place wouldn't be there long. Panasonic recently announced they were pulling out so the money was just wasted. Panasonic was sharing space with Tesla and a few months ago they had every temp agency in town trying to find bodies to pad their employment rolls. They had to have a certain number of employees or face millions or billions in fines. My 85 year old mother would wash my mouth out with soap if she heard me say I hate Cuomo but she doesn't read the forum. | |||
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Well, thankfully the analogy to a virus 100 years ago was made. I'll just head off to my local saw-bones and have him toss a couple leeches on me, I'll be fit as a fiddle in no time. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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The Daily Wire article is stunning one of the most significant lines: "If her model is accurate, fewer than one in a thousand who’ve been infected with COVID-19 become sick enough to need hospitalization" that is 0.1% The standard numbers being used by NY and MN are 13% and 15% My main concern about this new corona virus is that w the projected numbers, hospitals would be over flowing w corona patients. Not only would there be deaths because of not enough ventilators, but all the normal hospital patients would be competing for beds. | |||
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So when a healthcare worker is fitted for a N95 then spray tested for taste and proper fit that is an exercise in futility. Good health to you my friend. | |||
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Ok here is what I do not understand. I looked up the stats and in Florida in 2017 there were over 70,000 hospital beds, 59,000 community hospital beds. Patient volume in Florida was 2.7 million inpatient discharges with 11.8 million patient days. Massive numbers and capability. As of right now FL has 2035 confirmed COVID-19 cases of which about 20% may need hospitalization. So how in the holy hell are Florida hospitals with capacity of 11.8 million patient days per year overwhelmed and breaking down by 407 COVID-19 hospital cases? How are 407 patients putting nurses in trash bags?? Makes no sense at all. If average COVID-19 inpatient stay is 10 days then that's 4070 patient days or 0.034% the patient day capacity of Florida. We call that decimal dust levels. http://www.fha.org/reports-and...facts-and-stats.aspx | |||
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Not at all and not what I said. The N95 mask is used in very specific areas and cases (OR, etc.) Everyone who thinks they need an N95 is simply wasting them and contributing to the shortage of them that many places are experiencing. Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew. | |||
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They are just meadia/Dem plants. They are just faking it to get Orange Man. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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The Spanish Flu killed 655,000 Americans and an estimated 50 million people worldwide. Once again, I'll say it- this ain't that. 655,000- that's more than all the American soldiers killed in all its wars from the Revolution up until the beginning of the 21st Century. Let that soak in for a second. If you look at US Census figures, the only year you'll find that the US population actually decreased is the year 1918. This ain't that. And by the way, no, the news media didn't create the Spanish Flu. The United States- and a substantial part of the world- was preoccupied with the first world war in 1918, so, people took the catastrophe of the pandemic in stride. People actually encountered the reality of the Spanish Flu. Loved ones died. Friends. Co-workers. Towns ran out of coffins. Mass burials ensued. Can you imagine? No fear-mongering. They were actually dealing with something real, not fucking CNN brainwashing people. People were made of stouter stuff back then. All this access to information was supposed to make us so much more sophisticated, but we didn't take into account the charlatans and the deceivers, nor did we take into account some of the less attractive aspects of the nature of the human race- panic and gullibility. | |||
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All of Atlanta's four major hospital ICU's are at capacity...all ICU beds taken. Grady hospital has 100 ICU beds alone....ALL FULL. Does anyone remember that with the flu? I sure don't... Article here<<<< _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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No, I don't remember that for any of the 23,000 deaths that Coulter cited. | |||
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Just added a couple more hysterical fear mongers to my IGNORE list. Y’all have a nice panicky day now. --------------------- LGBFJB "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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That's the biggest part of this equation that is missing. The pussification of the world has created a crop of humans so afraid of everything, that they fold like cheap lawn chairs at the first sign of having to face the mortality of man. Death is just another part of the life cycle. I'm honestly hoping that your comet will set a hasty course for Earth and blow right through so everyone's problems go away! ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Over a WHOLE YEAR...not in two weeks. When something hits in two weeks and fills a major metro area ICU capacity...we should take notice. _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
I understand that | |||
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