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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^You should wait...Rapid tests are generally unreliable/unable to accurately detect an infection until after a few days from exposure. Actually, it used to be wait a few days after symptoms before testing to ensure a reliable result. That said, the .gov 'Free' (Made in China) Tests are likely unreliable anyway...  ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Save America! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
So you might get a cold. BFD That’s what it’s morphed into | |||
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Not to mention open the door on the discussion on the obvious failure of the “vaccine” to do what vaccines traditionally do- prevent the contagion from gaining a foothold in those that have been vaccinated. Me? I am blunt to the point of rudeness. I’m sick and tired of people pretending that this garbage is in any way effective at “stopping Covid”. It’s complete horse shit. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Well came back negative, damn it, have to go to work. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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If I'm not mistaken this was a small part of the testimony from Sen Ron Johnson's Senate hearings from Jan 24th. Many thanks to the regular contributors here, but I cannot properly attribute the first poster of the importance of the hearings, but I believe Para provided the Rumble link. I would once again highly recommend watching the entire 5 1/2 hours of this hearing as a great refresher course, or to catch up quickly if you have not consistently followed here. The Rumble link will stay open and you can watch over a period of days as time allows. Sen Johnson Jan 24th hearings Don't forget you can skip ahead to 40 min mark to begin. ------------------ The plural of anecdote is not data. -Frank Kotsonis | |||
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Why I No Longer Trust Doctors Or Hospitals Guest post by Duane Armstrong, a former Pharma executive The pandemic has revealed corruption in every institution at many levels. Media, Government, Big Tech and Big Pharma have all earned considerable negative publicity and trust in each of them has been eroded. There is another corrupt institution that deserves to be labeled as negatively as these others, and it also has lost the trust of the public. That institution is the whole of the medical industry. This includes physicians, hospitals, retail pharmacies and anyone else in the industry who has lied, covered up and misled. The CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO and NIAID are guilty as charged. The above mentioned members of the industry have carried the water for Fauci, Collins, Wallensky and others who have made lying a habit and who have ignored the principle of “do no harm.” The AMA and AHA share the guilt, as do rank and file private and hospital-based physicians. Physicians across the country have withheld early treatment that would have saved thousands of lives. Whistleblowing hospital nurses have testified that doctors knowingly withheld those treatments, at the direction of the hospital administration. And when remdesivir came along, that highly toxic drug was the only drug allowed and it alone led to a high number of adverse events and deaths. In addition, it is widely known that patient advocates were not allowed to be with patients, a clear violation of patient rights. The numbers of Covid admissions were inflated to capitalize on the whopping government payouts that filled the hospital coffers. Hospitals benefitted greatly from the mandated use of the very expensive remdesivir. Hospitals fired physicians who dared to treat patients with the less expensive known curatives. The corruption in hospitals has been palpable. Doctors and hospitals have pushed the mandates on an experimental vaccine that is ineffective and dangerous, and discriminated against employees and patients who have chosen to not be vaccinated. They have also mandated masks which everyone knows now are not effective. Doctors know this yet continue to propagate a lie. It is likely that your physician has not told you the truth about the vaccine. It is also likely that if you received the vaccine you were not informed about the possibility of serious adverse events. This is a violation of federal law, but do not look for any legal remedy. There are physicians who are truthful and are fighting against the corruption and lies, but they are in the minority. Do your best to find such a physician to be your personal physician. If you leave the practice of a physician who has been compromised, inform the practice of the reason for leaving. I was associated with the medical industry from 1961-2002. I have been around and worked with hundreds and hundreds of physicians over those years. I held the profession in the highest of esteem. I no longer do so. I have worked closely with hundreds of hospitals and held them at the same level of esteem. No longer. It truly disappoints me to say that I have little to no trust in physicians or hospitals, but as an institution, they have broken the bond of trust. https://creativedestructionmed...octors-or-hospitals/ "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Sad truth. Q | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
An interesting hour video. Might be far fetched, but maybe not. You can fast forward through the 3:00 count down. You can also skip to the 12:40 mark where the meat of the video starts. I do not know anything about the host or guest. In doing a quick search on the host before posting this I did not see anything to nutso. https://rumble.com/v10mnew-liv...watch-the-water.html "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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What I think of the Bryan Ardis video, "Watch the Water" The video is out. I've seen it. A few parts I agree with. For most other parts I'm skeptical. Bryan met with us so we had an opportunity to ask questions. Some think it is worthless. Some don't. Steve Kirsch Update On April 14, 2022, a group of my colleagues met with Dr. Ardis and Dr. Tau Braun to discuss their discoveries. It was interesting in that opinions of the group varied widely from “this is totally worthless” to “I think we have to take this seriously.” I asked, “what’s the big message you are trying to convey?” Answer #1: “We are dealing with a venom problem.” The point is that if you realize that, you can apply solutions from a familiar domain. I then asked, “What’s the most important behavioral change you’d want people to make?” Answer #2: “Halt the vaccine immediately.” I needed to leave the call early to hop on the VSRF call and I’m still waiting for input from various specialists, but suffice it to say that I’m not sure we would agree on #1 (because venom acts almost instantly for example, but the sequences are similar) but we would all agree on answer #2. There is a nice writeup on this at About Those Venom Proteins... and that article links to Meryl Nass’s writeup. https://merylnass.substack.com...d&utm_medium=web&s=r I’ve tweaked my original writeup below based on the call. Looks like this is a hot topic considering the number of comments  .Summary In this article, I give my overall reaction and then specifically respond to some of the key points in the video. A few parts I agree with. Most parts we remain unconvinced. We do agree there is evidence that the virus sequences are similar to snake venom. But as for the other assertions (such as it’s a poison spread through the water), nobody thinks that is the case. However, a few of us are open the possibility we are wrong. Fresh drinking water should be tested to eliminate this possibility. I’m going to have this done… just in case! It would have been a lot more responsible before making an assertion like this is to actually have done this and found a smoking gun. I’m skeptical we’ll find anything, but I’m open minded enough to look. The videos Here is the Stew Peters interview (1 hour): Here is the Brighteon interview (Part 1). Here is Part 2 and Part 3. Bryan also said we should read this article (VenomTech company announces massive library of SNAKE VENOM peptides for pharmaceutical development; “nanocarriers” stabilize snake venom in WATER (PubMed)) written by Mike Adams. My reaction It’s an interesting narrative. I watched the Stew Peters episode and haven’t watched the Brighteon episodes yet, so with those caveats, these are my preliminary thoughts: It is good that Bryan attended the call on Apr 14 with my colleagues. This is something that people promoting false narratives never agree to. My colleagues who have seen the videos believe some parts (similarity with snake venom), but not others (poison spread through the water). Most of us didn’t like the narrative presentation in the videos. It would have been much better to enumerate up front what the novel claims are and then methodically justify each claim with evidence. Instead it was a long mystery novel. My readers are split on whether Dr Ardis is credible as you’ll see from the comments below. On the call, some of our team thought he’s making some observations that are worthy of discussion. Others were less impressed. I was amazed at the fortune cookie story at the end of the Stew Peters interview. That just seems too hard to believe. But I don’t think Bryan would lie about it either. That part was really hard to believe, but apparently true. He mispronounced Genentech and was unfamiliar with them. Odd. The Bing Liu murder is real. I’m not buying the lover’s quarrel story promoted by the police because nobody knew he had a girlfriend. More on this in another substack. If I had heard this video a year ago, I would have totally dismissed it. But the most important lesson of the pandemic is to not be so fast as to dismiss things that don’t fit your narrative and sound implausible. So I’m personally a lot more tolerant than some of the others on the call. Do I think Dr. Ardis has “solved” it and all the pieces fit together? No and the call didn’t change that. Still getting input from others, but for now, this was interesting and worth more discussion. Dr. Sabine Hazan have totally different theories as to what is going on and how the virus spreads. I’ll let her disclose her theory when she is ready. It’s very different from what Bryan says. But what’s interesting is that because I know her theory, it makes me more likely to be open to Bryan’s claims. Clearly, different people have different hypotheses that they believe. It’s good to hear different points of view. That’s how we learn. My take on his key points Here are some of the key points and my thoughts on them: Do I think it is a poison rather than a virus? No. You can’t get poisoned from another person through close contact like at a party. More importantly, if it is a poison, this would have been discovered by now by someone. Also, poisons don’t replicate over time so the “viral load” won’t increase over time. I’m not buying it. If it is a poison, why would a treatment like fluvoxamine be so effective? Do I think the virus is spread through the water? I doubt it. The virus has spread worldwide. It would take massive coordination to poison water supplies all over the world and not get caught. Ardis conflates CDC sponsored testing of municipal wastewater for COVID with the water we drink. Do I think the virus is related to snake venom? Yes, we’ve been talking about that for over a month internally. I don’t think this part is controversial. Dr. Tau Braun was discussing the similarities to snake venom in late 2020. Is Ardis on a hit list? Probably. What I know is that there is credible evidence that Ardis is being targeted. I heard that assertion directly from a top government official. However, there is no explicit “hit list” that anyone has seen. Do any of us think the drinking water is being deliberately poisoned by people? No. Could something be getting in the drinking water? We highly doubt it, but this is easy enough to test. Bryan should have done it. I’ll have one of our colleagues check this out just to be on the safe side. Is it spread through the air almost exclusively? That’s an interesting question. That’s the current thinking. I also know that there were several people who got sick at the DTM event who all worked in the same room together. I doubt it was in the water or in the food. So I’m still a believer in the traditional explanations of viral spread, but I’m open to seeing evidence that I’m wrong. Are toxin-like peptides found in plasma, urine and fecal samples from COVID-19 patients? Yes. Check out this paper. As the paper points out, this raises more questions than it answers (see the Conclusion section of the paper). If I missed a key point you’d like an opinion on, let me know in the comments. I’ll be updating this article later this week with more info. There is a nice writeup on this at About Those Venom Proteins... and that article links to Meryl Nass’s writeup. https://stevekirsch.substack.c...ryan-ardis-video?s=r "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Just came across this. What does it mean right now? I have no idea. But I have a flight later this week and this sounds like good news to me. ********** Federal judge strikes down CDC's COVID mask mandate for air passengers, other mass travelers A federal judge in Florida struck down the Biden admin's ongoing traveler mask mandate Afederal judge in Florida on Monday struck down the Biden administration's mask mandate for air passengers and others mass travelers. The judge, Kathryn Kimball Mizelle, said the mandate was unlawful because it exceeded the statutory authority of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention DC and that its implementation violates administrative law. https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Where we live, for the most part we are unaffected by the ongoing C-19 madness. We live in rural Texas, outside DFW and folks here stopped wearing masks in early 2021. Other than our dentist (just stopped requiring masks), my optometrist (stopped with masks about 6 months ago) and my oncologist (cancer center still requires masks, checks temperatures and has a questionnaire when you come in the building), I'm not impacted by any of the nutty C-19 requirements anymore. And being retired, my wife and I declined the vaccinations. Both of us were wary of any 'hurried-up' concoction having lived through the swine flu debacle. That said, there's still one part of our lives on hold until common sense re-takes ground in this industry: Cruising. Pretty much every cruise line requires both two vaccine shots AND that you are current, meaning a booster within 270 days before sailing. As I'm not getting vaccinated for ANY reason, this puts our preferred vacation style on hold until the remaining governments AND the cruise companies come to their senses. This annoys me as our last true vacation was in 2018 - and I'd like to maximize the time when my health is still OK and we are young enough to do excursions, etc. Having lurked on cruise discussion boards, there are large numbers of people posting that are incensed at the idea of any cruise line stopping daily testing or ending masking requirements. Let alone dropping the vaccination requirements. Even after 45 years in business, I'm still surprised by how uninformed and uncurious a lot of the population is. How can one readily admit that the vaccines don't prevent infection, but still state that you won't ever even think about cruising with the unvaccinated? Anyway, thanks for listening. I'm resigned to having to wait at least another year before reason returns to the cruise industry. | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
The judge who just overturned the mask mandate on airplanes was appointed by President Trump and clerked for Clarence Thomas.  The question i have is why the hell this wasn't done 1.5 years ago? ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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 "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Same here. We'll be in a United 787 for 10.5 hours on Sunday, add to that all the time in terminals. | |||
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Buy high and sell "low" |
Sounds like it is in effect (for now). https://breaking911.com/breaki...hite-house-confirms/ Archerman | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
United said that they are keeping the mask mandate in place on their planes. That CEO of that airline is a real piece of work. I recommend anyone flying United don't, or at least ignore their mask policy as politely as possible. ETA: Now I'm seeing it said that United will make mask wearing optional. Well that's good. I'm happy to hear it. Delta has also now made masks optional. God bless Judge Kathryn Kimball Mizelle. My mood has improved astronomically with this news. I wish I were home to celebrate with an 18 year old scotch, that's how much the relief is for me. Two long years of this. Again, God bless that woman. A true saint.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Balzé Halzé, ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Ol' Jack always says... what the hell. |
I'm hoping they don't fight this. A friend and I will be getting on a plane on 4/30 to head to Vegas for the USBC Open bowling tournament. We're flying AA and as of right now I don't see any word from them about dropping the mask requirement. | |||
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All airlines making masks optional with this ruling. I don’t think Biden can put this genie back in the bottle, I think that Trump judge from Florida freed us all from a piece of tyranny. This looks like a celebratory event!! | |||
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| Ol' Jack always says... what the hell. |
Just found this from AA https://news.aa.com/news/news-...-OTH-04/default.aspx They're making it optional. | |||
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