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Aussie update:

Well I got nothing.

We mostly have a mask free, jab free environment ... well apart from 'mask up' requirements for public transit, travel on planes ...

There is soon to be a requirement for those at risk, to have a 4th 'booster' - the over 65, the immunocompromised ...

And very shortly, the Prime Minister will declare when the Aussie Fed elections are to be held; expectation is May. Time for a change of regime.

Trust all are well. I took a respite from the forum, a few scares with thyroid and prostate, results benign, but monitoring.
Sigh. That was a time for reflection of life, values and mindfulness.

Value what you have, we never know.

RIP 18DAI.

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There is soon to be a requirement for those at risk, to have a 4th 'booster' - the over 65, the immunocompromised ...

How is that enforced?
Do they tie you down to a table and forcibly inject?



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... Apologies for the miscommunication ... not enforced, more a health recommendation.

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) has recommended an additional vaccine dose for the following groups:

- Anyone aged 65 years and older
- People who live in aged care or disability care facilities
- People aged 16 and over who have been deemed severely immunocompromised
- Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 50 years and older

Pfizer and Moderna are preferred; Novavax also approved.


ATAGI says people in these categories are at the greatest risk of severe illness from COVID-19.

... and ... ATAGI says there's "insufficient evidence of the benefits of an additional booster dose" to recommend them for people who don't fall into those categories listed above.

And interestingly:
The federal government says you must have had "all doses recommended for your age and health needs" to be considered up to date with your COVID-19 vaccination.

No Enforcement. Speculation that it could mean that some services are not available if you don't have the 'winter booster'.

Nowadays, many are so over this ...

--chris



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This shit will not end until some necks get put in nooses.




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Now Pelosi has the Wu Flu and she was all hugging up on and kissing Biden just the day before.

It's weird how all these high ranking Dems are getting it all at once like this isn't it?


You remember that snafu of hers? Wear your mask, everybody freak out and check everyone else out and hassle them. I’m gonna go get my hairdo done right quick!



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Now Pelosi has the Wu Flu and she was all hugging up on and kissing Biden just the day before.

It's weird how all these high ranking Dems are getting it all at once like this isn't it?


You remember that snafu of hers? Wear your mask, everybody freak out and check everyone else out and hassle them. I’m gonna go get my hairdo done right quick!
Wouldn't it just be poetic justice if Biden tested positive after Pelosi rubbed all over him?


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If you are anti-forced injection, or believe Trump won the election... you are considered a domestic terrorist.

Every House Democrat Voted AGAINST Stopping the Government ‘Monitoring And Prosecuting’ Unvaccinated Americans.

The left want the unvaccinated treated as domestic terrorists.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2...accinated-americans/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Every House Democrat Voted AGAINST Stopping the Government ‘Monitoring And Prosecuting’ Unvaccinated Americans.


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US Appeals Court Clears Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Federal Employees

By Zachary Stieber

President Joe Biden’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal workers is back in effect after a federal appeals court ruling on April 7.

A panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit entered the ruling, overturning a district judge’s earlier block of the mandate.

U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Brown, a Trump appointee, had concluded that Biden lacked the statutory authority to issue the mandate. Two judges on the appeals court panel did not directly address that matter, but found that plaintiffs, a group of federal employees, should have taken their complaints to different venues.

Under the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, the procedure for federal workers facing adverse actions may appeal to an entity called the Merit Systems Protection Board, which decides whether the worker was properly disciplined. If the worker prevails, the board can order an agency to reinstate the worker or undertake other measures.

Employees who disagree with the board can appeal to a federal appeals court.

The law “precludes district court adjudication of federal statutory and constitutional claims,” Judge Carl Stewart, a Clinton appointee, wrote in the decision.

He was joined by Judge James Dennis, another Clinton appointee.

The judges also said the plaintiffs could have challenged an agency’s proposed action against them before filing the suit and before getting vaccinated by filing a complaint with the Office of Special Counsel.

The ruling means the injunction against the mandate was lifted, with the case remanded to Brown with instructions to dismiss it.

At issue is a Sept. 9, 2021, executive order that alleged requiring federal workers to get a COVID-19 vaccine would help “slow the spread” of the virus that causes COVID-19. It was issued when the Delta variant of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus was circulating. Omicron displaced Delta in late 2021. The current slate of vaccines didn’t halt transmission from Delta and provide little protection against infection from Omicron, but the Biden administration has not withdrawn various mandates, including the one that is now back in place.

The suit against the mandate was brought by Feds for Medical Freedom, a group comprised of federal workers, who said the order likely exceeded the president’s authority.

Plaintiffs did not immediately provide a response to the ruling.

Judge Rhesa Barksdale, a George H.W. Bush appointee, dissented from the majority.

Barksdale said the enactment of the executive order does not constitute an adverse action subject to the Civil Service Reform Act (CSRA) and described the case as “a pre-enforcement challenge to a government-wide policy, imposed by the President, that would affect the 2.1 million federal civilian workers, including the 6,000 members of Feds for Medical Freedom.”

“Simply put, CSRA does not cover pre-enforcement employment actions, especially concerning 2.1 million federal civilian employees. The district court, therefore, had subject-matter jurisdiction to hear plaintiffs’ claims,” added Barksdale, the other judge on the panel that decided on the motion to lift the injunction.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...m_campaign=noqreport



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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New study shows antibody levels not predictive of protection against COVID infection

Trial participants, all healthcare workers, with fewer titers didn't contract COVID while those with more did.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/325403

A study recently conducted by researchers from Bar-Ilan University and Ziv Hospital in Tzfat has revealed fascinating findings regarding the significance of antibody levels for protection against infection with COVID-19.

The study, which was published in the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal, followed almost a thousand healthcare workers from Ziv Hospital over an eleven-month period and tested their levels of antibodies against COVID at six different points along the way, from their first dose of COVID vaccine through their first booster shot (the third shot in total).

The study’s authors observed that healthcare workers who contracted COVID before the trial commenced were about half as likely to be reinfected as healthcare workers who received two doses of vaccine were to contract COVID, demonstrating significant natural immunity.

They also noted that these previously infected healthcare workers started out with much higher antibody levels than other trial participants who had only been vaccinated – 13 times greater, in fact – and that these levels dwindled throughout the study to the point where there was no statistical difference (at around seven months into the study).

However, the study also demonstrated a clear lack of correlation between antibody levels and the likelihood of contracting COVID.

Because the trial measured antibody levels so frequently, it was possible to examine two questions:

1) Do antibody levels correlate with protection against infection?

2) Is there an identifiable threshold of antibody levels that is protective?

The study showed convincingly that the answer to both these questions was in the negative, with a high level of significance.

The study’s authors noted that:

“Among those first infected after vaccination, IgG GMC [antibody level] just prior to infection was not different than among those who remained uninfected at the same time point…”

In many cases documented by the study, people with lower antibody titers did not contract COVID whereas those with significantly higher levels did succumb.

The study’s authors also noted that:

“Infected individuals had high circulating IgG levels just prior to infection … and would have been considered strongly positive on any routine serology test. These elements suggest circulating IgG levels are not a robust predictor of protection against infection or disease.”

They concluded that:

“A better understanding of how IgG levels correlate with protection [is] required, especially where ... calls for further doses beyond a single booster are beginning to be made.”


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If you are anti-forced injection, or believe Trump won the election... you are considered a domestic terrorist.
If its not guns, its some other way the Dem's are trying to criminalize regular law abiding citizens, so if this renders me a criminal, I'm good with it.
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Every House Democrat Voted AGAINST Stopping the Government ‘Monitoring And Prosecuting’ Unvaccinated Americans.

The left want the unvaccinated treated as domestic terrorists.
Wish I was shocked or surprised by this, but I'm not. They are open totalitarians at this point. You can waltz across the Rio Grande illegally and unvaccinated and you're welcomed with open arms by this illegitimate administration and president, but legal hard working Americans who simply want to be left alone to live their lives, well we've now become enemy # 1 for the Dem's. And again, I'm good with it. I am their enemy and damn proud of it.


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US Appeals Court Clears Biden’s COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Federal Employees

By Zachary Stieber

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...m_campaign=noqreport


So you need to wait until you're fired to fight an unconstitutional edict? Then once fired, every single affected person is supposed to get in a 2,100,000 person long line to file a grievance? Then you wait a decade to have you number called to review your case? How does one pay the mortgage during this period? Is the government going to hire 10's of thousands of new employees at the Merit Systems Protection Board to hear cases? Then once fired do all the individuals need to challenge the executive order individually or can they then join a joint lawsuit?

This ruling makes no sense to me. This is not like a matter of a single employee being fired for failing to follow the dress code and should not be handled in the same manner.



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The mandate is straight up bully tactics and everyone knows, most of all the assholes pushing it. Here’s a valid question I’ve had since the beginning as one of the affected federal employees- if this is so damned important, why don’t the legislative and judicial branches step up and make their employees jump through the same hoops? Congress, the senate, staffers, judges, attorneys, clerks, etc etc etc are all free of the hobbles placed on executive branch employees.

I was lucky enough to be able to retire 6 months earlier than intended without incurring too much by way of financial hardship. Folks with years in and years to go are fucked into getting the snake oil or start their lives over. Bully tactics.




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At this point the mandate isn't about the vaccine, but rather about compliance.
 
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A Jaw-Dropping 769 Athletes have Collapsed While Competing Over The Past Year – “Avg. Age of Players Suffering Cardiac Arrest is JUST 23”

Over the past year-plus, athletes across the world have been dropping like flies as they compete in games. If they aren’t passed out cold, they are seen gripping their chests in agony, unable to breathe due to sudden cardiac events that hit in the heat of the competition.

This wave of heart issues is unprecedented, to say the least. Never before have we seen young, healthy, world-class athletes experiencing heart issues en masse like this. It has never happened, ever. Furthermore, the timing of this sweeping phenomenon could not be more relevant, coinciding perfectly with the rollout of the experimental Covid-19 vaccines.

In December nearly 300 athletes reportedly collapsed or suffered cardiac arrests after taking the COVID vaccines.

But it gets worse. Thanks to a new explosive report by OAN that pegs the number of affected athletes in the hundreds.

In all, their investigation found a jaw-dropping 769 men and women who collapsed with heart issues during competition over the past year (between March 2021 and March 2022).

Most shockingly, the average age of those who experienced full-blown cardiac arrest was just 23.

Considering the timing of this never-before-seen issue in healthy athletes, and the universal push for Covid jabs, all signs point to one culprit: the experimental vaccine.

After detailing two recent high-profile cases, in which two tennis players were forced to recuse themselves from last month’s Miami Open, OAN’s Pearson Sharp reviewed their shocking investigation and asked a few pressing questions that should be answered if you are still questioning what is driving these heart issues in young individuals:

“These are just two o more than 769 athletes who have collapsed during a game on the field over the last year. From March of 2021 to March of this year. The average age of the players suffering cardiac arrest is just 23-years-old.

How many 23-year-old athletes were collapsing and suffering heart attacks before this year? Do you know any 23-year-old people who had heart attacks before now?

And these are just the ones we know about. How many have gone unreported? Nearly 800 athletes – young, fit people in the prime of life falling down on the field. In fact, 500% more soccer players in the EU are dropping dead from heart attacks than just one year ago.”

Just in case there is any lingering inclination to call this a coincidence, Sharp sets the record straight.

“Coincidence? When the Pfizer vaccine is known to cause heart inflamation? No. In fact, many doctors treating these players list their injuries and deaths as being directly caused by the vaccine…

This is not a coincidence – healthy teenagers dying after getting the Pfizer injection. Doctors warned the FDA before they released the experimental vaccine that it would ‘almost certainly cause terrible organ damage.'”

The only question left is: when do we see some accountability?

This investigative report by OAN should serve, at the very least, as a catalyst to begin looking into the severe damage the vaccines have been causing, particularly in young people. It has been obvious for a while that the jab does not even protect against the spread of Covid, yet, the fraudulent Biden Regime and Dr. Fauci recently approved a fourth dose, with a fifth likely coming very soon.

Continuing to push these vaccines with the information that is out there now (and has been for months) is beyond criminal.

Yet, here we are.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...rrest-just-23-video/


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Assholes



 
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Clearly govt can’t be trusted with power, influence nor money.



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They were looking for any excuse to perpetuate this insanity. A small rise in cases is all they needed. And with US cities still pushing mask mandates, it gives the Feds all the cover they need to keep extending masks on planes, airports, etc.

This is way beyond frustrating at this point.


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The midterms are coming up and Democrats need a boost. Enter Dr. Death — Tony Fauci says the US is likely to see a fall COVID-19 surge.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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