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Here are a couple of videos with an analysis of why WLP resigned and why it doesn't change anything at the NRA. I'm still not rejoining.



 
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I thought I posted here but it could have been somewhere else.... ontop of laPierre I still want to know why there needs to be 79 board members.... that is just ludicrous. And I'm sure they are all compensated for their travel to and from the meetings.


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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
I thought I posted here but it could have been somewhere else.... on top of Lapierre I still want to know why there needs to be 79 board members.... that is just ludicrous. And I'm sure they are all compensated for their travel to and from the meetings.


^^^ This mostly, we need to fully know the extent of the compensation and have a say as NRA members.
I think Wayne, his compensation was overblown with comparisons to other exec's in the industry.
Nevertheless, someone has to take the bullet and the bad optics of opulence has taken it's toll.
It is time for him to go and to clean house.
It would be refreshing and breath new life into the NRA if they streamline, get back to business and have a new leader .... Colin Nior, under the right circumstances could be a great choice, IMO.
I have zero reason to denigrate MidWay USA because of the NRA, none.
 
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Here are a couple of videos with an analysis of why WLP resigned and why it doesn't change anything at the NRA. I'm still not rejoining.
It changes one thing: Wayne LaPierre's employment status with the NRA.

This is something countless American gun owners have wanted for years.
 
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I still want to know why there needs to be 79 board members.... that is just ludicrous. And I'm sure they are all compensated for their travel to and from the meetings.
It's actually 76, but your point is valid that the number is ludicrous.

One school of thought is that it's intentional as only a rare amount of instances could 76 people align (ie too many opinions, too many factions, and too many people with trivial levels of involvement) and provide guidance to NRA's executives. In other words, NRA set-up that way so the NRA's executives could do whatever it wanted and not truly answer to the board.

I made this post in 2021, but didn't include a link to the study:
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There was a study a few years ago that said the ideal number of directors of a corporation or non-profit is 7 and every additional board member decreases decision making by 10%. The sole reason there is a 76 member NRA BOD is so they can't do anything, and the executives can do whatever they please. In other words, doomed to fail and the executives can pilfer the NRA for their own benefit.
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Hell if it were up to me, the NRA would have 1 director elected from each of 13 Federal circuit courts of appeal (i.e. geographic boundary of each board member matches the geographic boundary of each federal appeals court) and that would align them to better fight for the rights of its members.

Could probably reduce the number of board members to 9 by combining:
  • 1, 2, and 3
  • 6 & 7
  • DC Circuit and Federal Circuit



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    The NRA is a gravy train. It's like one of those charitable organizations that show you ads of destitute elderly people and abandoned puppies shivering in the rain and then it turns out that 96% of your donation goes to buy the charity's board members new yachts every year.

    Years ago, the first time in this forum that I said I am not an NRA member, people were shocked. There was a bit of virtual head-shaking going on at me. Oh, how could I be so callous? Didn't I care about the rights of American gun owners?

    Gosh, yes, that's right- the NRA is the only gun rights organization in existence, and they do so much for us. Truly, I am a selfish cad. Roll Eyes

    Over time, lots of gun owners have caught up. The NRA is not what it once was. Your membership fees are misused, and obscenely so.

     
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    Originally posted by parabellum:
    The NRA is a gravy train. It's like one of those charitable organizations that show you ads of destitute elderly people and abandoned puppies shivering in the rain and then it turns out that 96% of your donation goes to buy the charity's board members new yachts every year.

    Years ago, the first time in this forum that I said I am not an NRA member, people were shocked. There was a bit of virtual head-shaking going on at me. Oh, how could I be so callous? Didn't I care about the rights of American gun owners?

    Gosh, yes, that's right- the NRA is the only gun rights organization in existence, and they do so much for us. Truly, I am a selfish cad. Roll Eyes

    Over time, lots of gun owners have caught up. The NRA is not what it once was. Your membership fees are misused, and obscenely so.



    Spot on. I was an NRA member until around 2004 then stopped. I attended local dinners for the regional "friends of NRA" chapters but haven't been in a few years.


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    I'm a member because my shooting club requires it.


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    Posts: 16133 | Location: Ivorydale | Registered: January 21, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    I just received an 'urgent request' for funds from Wayne in the mail today.
    It was immediately tossed into the circular file.

    I'm a Benefactor Life member, but the NRA will get no more money from me until they go back to standing up for our gun rights.
    They did absolutely nothing to help while Connecticut passed multiple unconstitutional restrictive gun laws over the last ten years.



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    In recent years I have started to pay more attention to my state organizations and they have been doing much more and are more responsible and efficient with our money.
    That’s a benefit of the WLP situation.


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    Posts: 9909 | Location: NE GA | Registered: August 22, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    Perhaps the wrong place for this post:

    Replacements for WLP.

    How about the governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem?

    Silent
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^

    The gig would be a big step down for her, she has higher aspirations Wink



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    Originally posted by Silent:
    Perhaps the wrong place for this post:

    Replacements for WLP.

    How about the governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem?

    Silent


    she would be much better as the VP of the United States
     
    Posts: 53951 | Location: Tucson Arizona | Registered: January 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    Meanwhile, Atty Gen. Letitia J., Bringer of Justice against the NRA, not to mention President Trump, isn't resting on her laurels:

    https://ag.ny.gov/press-releas...sales-military-grade


    "January 10, 2024
    NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James led a multistate coalition of 20 attorneys general calling on the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention to investigate recent reports that a federally funded contractor has produced military-grade ammunition for sale to civilians, including to perpetrators of horrific recent mass shootings. Attorney General James and the coalition sent a letter asking the Office to investigate how a facility overseen by the U.S. Army, Lake City Army Ammunition Plant (Lake City), produced billions of rounds of ammunition that were sold on the civilian market, and asked the Office to ensure that future military production contracts prohibit the sale of military-subsidized weapons and ammunition to civilians.

    “Military-grade weapons and ammunition do not belong in our homes or in our communities,” said Attorney General James. “Ammunition made at Lake City has been used to kill American civilians in devastating recent mass shootings, including the Tops Supermarket massacre in Buffalo. The continued sale of this ammunition on the private market puts everyone at risk. I’m proud to join with my fellow attorneys general to raise this important issue and help ensure that weapons of war don’t make their way onto our streets.” "


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    a federally funded contractor has produced military-grade ammunition for sale to civilians
    (Yawn) Been doing it for decades.


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    Posts: 9343 | Location: Northern Virginia | Registered: November 04, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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    Originally posted by Silent:
    How about the governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem?

    she would be much better as the VP of the United States

    At this point, she seems like Trump's most likely choice.



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    https://www.rawstory.com/wayne-lapierre-expenses/

    Saw this on several web sites - NRA treasurer apparently plotted ways to conceal expenses for WLP.
     
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    These are so many better organizations to support.
     
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    quote:
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    These are so many better organizations to support.


    Every gun owner should be a member of 2AF, these are the guys that take governments to court, and they win, they team up with other organizations to help win cases against oppressive D governments

    https://saf.org/
     
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    Originally posted by HRK:

    Every gun owner should be a member of 2AF, these are the guys that take governments to court, and they win, they team up with other organizations to help win cases against oppressive D governments

    https://saf.org/
    Fun fact: Second Amendment Foundation is located at the same address as Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO.org).



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