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I realize that is the theory, but as far as I can tell Klinton is not being charged. So what exactly was the purpose? Let's give someone immunity, but not actually charge anyone with a crime... brilliant plan. More useless politicians, lawyers and federal agents - top notch crowd. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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Therefore, someone removed the headers before sending them to Hitlery. Who did this? Has the FBI investigated? It would seem to be a crime has been committed. I have no doubt the removal of the headers was to give Clinton plausable deniability. Those of us that held security clearances and handled classified material were informed and well aware of our responsibilities. Based on that, Clinton either has committed crimes or is so incompetent that she shouldn't be let out without a keeper. “ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. | |||
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IIRC, it has already been found that Hillary actually instructed some of her underlings to remove the markings for classified so that they could be sent to her over unsecure channels "for her convenience". And yes, those persons should be prosecuted. (Good luck on identifying them.) flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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http://www.realclearpolitics.c...the_trigger_man.html Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-South Carolina) slammed the Department of Justice deciding to give immunity to Paul Combetta, the computer specialist who deleted Hillary Clinton's e-mails. "They gave immunity to the very person you would most want to prosecute, which is the person who destroyed official public records after there was a subpoena and after there was a prosecution order," he said. GOWDY: They got it wrong. They blew it. They gave immunity to the trigger man. That’s why those of us that used to do it for a living didn’t like to give immunity. That’s why you never heard me calling for giving Bryan Pagliano immunity. You better be right on who the trigger person is. You better be right on who the culprit is if you’re going to give transactional immunity. If that’s what they did, then they immunized the one person you would must want to prosecute for the destruction of government records. It is frankly stunning. **************** one of the most important investigations of our times, and the FBI did indeed stunningly "blow it". | |||
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Yes, those are really the only two options with what has been stated and released publicly. Either one should permanently disqualify her from any public office. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
You give immunity to get information that hopefully will lead to convictions, but T the time you do it, you may not know that there Re other problems with proof, holes in the case. I doubt very seriously if the grant was made while the plan was no charges no matter what. Of course, you always have the risk of being mistaken in how things will work out. The idea is to get admissible evidence, information and see where it leads. I imagine it has happened where immunity was given to some witnesses, and at trial the others guys were found not guilty, so everyone walked. These things can happen! Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
You realize that no matter what evidence was or could be found, or what testimony was or may be given, Comey will not recommend criminal charges against Hillary or her gang. His absolute corruption knows no bounds. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Is there a remote possibility she is cheating? | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
His gave a speech last night at a Baptist convention, but did not draw the expected numbers:  They ended up rolling in a partition airway to shrink the auditorium, yet she still spoke to a lot of empty seats. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Do you think the decision about Hillary was made in advance, or after the reports and investigations were completed? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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The decision was made as soon as Bill's plane landed and parked on the same ramp as Loretta's. JMHO..... "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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| Rule #1: Use enough gun |
Based on the information contained in the FBI's report, the decision was made before the so-called investigation had even begun. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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I think they are all corrupt enough that Killary was never going to charged. Bill was tending to the loose ends like this network guy. James "we don't play games" Comey is just a political hack. Must feel great to work for the FBI right now, such an honorable position. Nice job G Men. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado |
Who are all those people wearing white? flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us  |
I am guessing the Choir. Which many of them likely would not be there if they weren't in the choir. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Yeah, it seems now safe to say that the harpy is desperate: Clinton says half of all Trump supporters belong in 'basket of deplorables' I'm no politician, but this just doesn't seem wise to me. | |||
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| Banned |
It dovetails with this story from yesterday: https://www.washingtonpost.com...05321db62_story.html The Post story is full of erroneous info but the premise, that the Dems are very worried, is correct. She has spent nearly $100 million in TV advertising in battleground states while Trump has not yet spent a dime. They're statistically tied in all of them. When Trump's TV ads start putting out his true message in these states, this race should open up fairly quickly but.....not in the way the Dems wanted. | |||
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| wishing we were congress |
nothing new here, but it is a good summary http://www.denverpost.com/2016...-of-clinton-e-mails/ The FBI said that in December 2014 a top Clinton aide told Denver-based Platte River Networks to destroy an archive of e-mails from her private server, but the company failed to do so. Then, after The New York Times reported in early March 2015 details of then-Secretary Clinton’s use of a private server, the House committee investigating the deadly attacks on the American embassy in Benghazi, Libya, ordered that her e-mails be preserved, and subpoenaed those related to the attack. Three weeks later, the story goes, the engineer responsible for deleting Clinton’s archive suddenly remembered the failed duty, and acted on it by deleting the e-mails with a program (wonderfully named BleachBit) that apparently rendered most of them unreadable. Around the time of the engineer’s sudden remembrance, the FBI said, Platte River officials joined a conference call with a longtime Clinton aide and personal lawyer. But when the FBI tried to look into this call, they met with frustration. Platte River’s attorney told the engineer who did the deed to claim attorney-client privilege . Something about this story feels whitewashed — or maybe bleached out is the better term for it now. ************** in a real investigation, Platte River would be spilling their guts while the FBI/DoJ applied the big screws to them | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
That claim of privilege ought not hold up. The privilege protects communications with an attorney, not just with any attorney, from whom you are seeking advice, not giving info about someone else's legal problems, or describing work you did for that attorney's client, not at the request of the attorney. You can't earn the privilege by spilling your guts to an attorney. In 40 years of lawyering, I don't recall a single instance where a claim of privilege held up to prevent testifying. Of course, I did not handle criminal charges generally. They never caught my clients! Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Where i work, the only time we are supposed to rely on atty client privilege is when we are discussing litigation strategy with internal and/or external counsel (appropriately marked of course). Outside of that, we consider everything else discoverable. Sounds like this guy is just trying to drag out the inevitable. Just cause you say it/mark it don't make so. | |||
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