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Originally posted by Russ59:
This whole episode confirms that pilots are overpaid.

Um. My winking emoji didn’t post. Here it is again

Out of airspeed, altitude and ideas....

there was a Beech king air , start up and roll out on youtube
it had a voice over telling you the correct order in which to execute .

after watching the 10 minute vid four times ,
I don't think I could have
come close to

getting it started , let alone driving it to the launch pad

If they made it hard to start or fly clearly the Engineers failed

And boy did he take it for a ride.

Take-offs are optional.

Landings are mandatory.

i do not know what has been determined. But my guess is that he was not trying, nor was he intending to land the plane.

He either crashed it or maybe ran out of fuel. I am guessing if he wanted to go back and land it they could of talked him through that. Pure speculation on my part.

Maybe there is evidence as to what happened now?

It was a suicide, plain and simple.

A blind man can see it.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

Landings are mandatory.

Not if you want to die.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
i do not know what has been determined. But my guess is that he was not trying, nor was he intending to land the plane.

He either crashed it or maybe ran out of fuel. I am guessing if he wanted to go back and land it they could of talked him through that. Pure speculation on my part.

Maybe there is evidence as to what happened now?

He had fuel on board judging by the amount of fire at the crash site. It's possible he ran one of the tanks dry and didn't know how to switch tanks. The black boxes will determine that.

Jim

A tragic loss of a life Nothing more, nothing less

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Originally posted by Phantom229:

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

Landings are mandatory.

Not if you want to die.

The landing is mandatory whether you want to die or not. Sometimes that happens, too, especially among the careless or unprepared.

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Originally posted by Ishootsometimes:
A tragic loss of a life Nothing more, nothing less

I hear this a lot. What made it tragic?

Dude wants to kill himself So you not actually don't have one ounce of compassion in your soul?

"I'm gonna put the nose down and call it a night." had a pretty specific meaning to me....

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Originally posted by Phantom229:

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Originally posted by Ishootsometimes:
A tragic loss of a life Nothing more, nothing less

I hear this a lot. What made it tragic?

Really just a tragic loss of a good airplane.

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Originally posted by Russ59:
This whole episode confirms that pilots are overpaid.

You do remember his Landing... that is the part that is really important.

That being said, with an empty plane and Lots of power surplus he could make some mistakes and it would correct.

(I thought someone's Audi or Infinity got stolen from the parking lot)

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Originally posted by cas:
(I thought someone's Audi or Infinity got stolen from the parking lot)

Hopefully it didn't 'trigger' you.

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Originally posted by Ishootsometimes:
A tragic loss of a life Nothing more, nothing less

The only tragedy here is the loss of the aircraft and the fallout that will happen in the industry as a result of this stupidity.

The guy didn't simply pick up a pistol or jump off a bridge. There was a lot more planning, preparation and set-up for this. It was a criminal act that placed thousands of lives in jeopardy.

A tragedy if he hung himself maybe, but he lost any possible pity from me when he went this route.

I've seen suicides in aviation before. In fact, we had two at a flight school where I worked, individuals who rented aircraft and flew them into a mountain. That's not the case here, and in neither case did the pilots buzz people or attempt low altitude aerobatics. This was far more elaborate than a simple suicide, and planned out far in advance, despite the individual's comments to air traffic control. This was rehearsed and prepared. It's not possible for someone to have simply hopped in the aircraft, started it, and flown away. There are numerous steps to go through to get that aircraft in the air, and the must be deliberate and done in a specific order. Simply picking up a checklist won't do it.

Starting with other aircraft operating at SeaTac to inbound and outbound aircraft to people on the ground, this act was not like a typical suicide. I've seen quite a few, and have scraped the remains of blown apart skulls and other pieces up from suicides; this wasn't what most people do, which is harm to themselves. There are cases where people do worse; the German Wings pilot springs to mind...but the notion that people would give this guy a pass is sickening.

You wouldn't give a suicide bomber a pass, who terrorizes and puts innocents in danger. This guy did nothing less. He terrorized and put tens of thousands in danger; millions at risk. This isn't tragic at all. Stupid. Criminal. Just shy of terroristic. Asinine.

But not tragic.

It wasn't a matter of big balls, or moxy and this is't a case of tragedy, rest in peace. This asshole doesn't deserve a break, and it's rather disappointing to hear from those who would grant him one. He became a self-clearing problem, with the only benefit that he took no one else with.