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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Yet there are people who fly multi-engine retractable gear planes solo every single day. Well thought out or lucky, but not remotely superhuman. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
Just about anyone can fly one when everything is working, weather is decent. It's when things start to go bad that training, skill, experience and judgment make all the difference. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Bazinga! I wasn't trained how to fly the plane; already knew how to do that when I was hired. What I WAS trained to do was fly the plane the way the company wants me to, learn how to work as a crew, and what to do in emergency procedures (hint: there' a book on the flight deck for that or a publication on my EFB/tablet). "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon  |
That from an experienced pilot. According to his friends and family he'd never flown an airplane in his life. I'm just saying that he had to be under a huge amount of stress and the fact that he didn't make a catastrophic mistake early on is exceptional and goes beyond just luck. I'm putting myself in his shoes and I find it amazing that he got as far as he did. ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon |
True, but with how many hours with a teacher? A lot! How many do you know who did their solo without any instruction. My guess is the answer starts with a z and ends in an o. Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
No one lawfully. They may start with z but they end up like this guy, upside down in the weeds on fire. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon |
Yep, and that is my point. ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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Wilbur and Orville? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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I’m betting he wasn’t stressed at all. As you know He was apparently suicidal. Anything past the gate was a bonus. His plan was to get as far along as possible and in that regard he succeeded. Regards, P. | |||
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 God bless America. | |||
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V-Tail for the win! BTW, just how well did you know Wilbur and Orville? This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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| Nature is full of magnificent creatures |
As for the Ohio NG, obviously they did have live ammo in 1970. The Pennsylvania NG did not. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
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| Crusty old curmudgeon |
Big winner for the 5 foot trophy. With due respect. ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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Killer robots from the future can be programmed to do just about anything. Just sayin' | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
i am not really following the story much. But some of the things he did in flight at the controls, while talking to the radio tower seemed somewhat impressive skill wise for someone who never flew. So how long was he in the air? "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Over an hour. I think i even heard as much as 90 minutes. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan "Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle | |||
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Last radio transmission from Q400: "I can land anywhere once." | |||
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This whole episode confirms that pilots are overpaid. P229 | |||
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Apparently so. The tried and trite saying is that you can land anything once, and the record for low altitude flight is tied. It's said that any landing one can walk away from is a good landing. Any time the aircraft can be used again is a great landing. Some say of gear-up landings that there are those who have, and those who will. This individual did all of the above, except walk away and make the airplane re-useable. It's said that the three most useless things in aviation are runway behind, altitude above, and air in the fuel tank. He had an abundance of each. The three priorities in aviation are to aviate, communicate, and navigate. He did none of the above. Moving the controls around indiscriminately is not flying the airplane. He simply avoided ground contact for a while before impact. His "superhuman" effort was largely luck, which eventually ran out. Talking on the radio while flying is roughly equivalent to walking and chewing gum. Not really a test of the human spirit or psyche. We frequently allow passengers in light airplanes to handle the flight controls and to believe that they are flying the aircraft, and in a sense, they are. Until one strikes the ground or another aircraft, there's nothing to hit, and so someone with no experience can fairly easily manipulate the controls. Someone who has been doing it on computer games will find it similar. That's not at all the same as flying the airplane, which involves judgement, and the full scale of aviating, navigating, and communicating. Training is not merely about the way the company wants the airplane operated. A small portion of the training is devoted to that, and no, the airplane will not start or fly itself. There is an old story about placing objects in the cockpit: a duck, a brick, a set of car keys, a cat, and a dog. The duck is there for bad weather. Water off a ducks back; when things turn south, follow the duck. In the event the duck is lost, and one is disoriented, toss the cat. It always lands on its feet. Provided the cat is declawed and not stuck to the roof of the cockpit, one may anticipate earth in the direction of the cats feet. In the event the cat is not declawed, use the brick to hit the cat, and toss the keys out the window. Follow them. They will guide you to earth. The dog is there to bite the pilot if he attempts to touch anything. | |||
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