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DEMs are going after Manchin hard. He and his family live on a boat in the DC harbor. DEM demonstrators have been aggressively badgering them about not supporting the bloated Build Back Better (BBB) bill. A 2 to 5 trillion bill that is full of leftist / socialist wet dreams.

Just one small part of the proposed BBB bill:

The bill also would go a long way toward putting some electric vehicles on level ground with gas-powered cars on price

Experts say that could spur wider adoption of EVs — a key element of President Biden's plan to decarbonize the transportation sector.

the latest version of the bill would provide EV owners:

A credit of up to $7,500 for an electric or plug-in hybrid vehicle, defined as a car with a battery capacity of at least 40 kilowatt-hours and a gas tank, if any, under 2.5 gallons.

An additional $500 credit for a car with a battery pack made in the U.S.

An additional $4,500 credit for cars assembled at a unionized U.S. plant. (Currently only plants owned by GM, Ford and Stellantis qualify.)

Starting in 2027, only cars assembled in the U.S. that have. a battery of at least 50 kWH would qualify for the base $7,500 credit.

Very few electric cars on the market today would qualify for a full $12,500 credit. One of them is the Chevy Bolt, which is assembled in Michigan's Orion Township and features batteries from a nearby LG facility.

(Production of the Bolt is currently on hold while GM fixes issues with its older Bolt models, which were liable to catch fire.)

The proposed bill also makes it easier to claim an EV credit by allowing dealers to collect it on customers' behalf. That opens the door for car sellers to build in tax sweeteners into a vehicle's sticker price, effectively giving drivers an upfront discount.


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Understand - If someone gets a $ 12,500 credit, that is our tax dollars. There is no "free shit".
 
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The more the left maligns Manchin, the stronger his resolve. Say what you want about him just because he has a D next to his name; he has saved this country from disaster by sinking Biden’s traitorous globalist backed plan. He is a far better man than many of the republican RINO trash that turned on Trump.




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The more the left maligns Manchin, the stronger his resolve. Say what you want about him just because he has a D next to his name; he has saved this country from disaster by sinking Biden’s traitorous globalist backed plan. He is a far better man than many of the republican RINO trash that turned on Trump.


Amen to that. If he runs in 2024 he would be hard to beat. Old school Dems are a different breed than "Hey Macarana". And a lot closer to being able to use "some" common sense.
 
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Joe Manchin will never be POTUS, and that would be true even if he had not completely alienated his own party.
 
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Manchin is 74 and his senate term is up in 2024.

He hasn't announced whether he will run again or not.
 
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Joe Manchin will never be POTUS, and that would be true even if he had not completely alienated his own party.


Never know Para, he would bring the semi-sane Dems out to vote that hate what Joe and the current idiots are doing to our country. And a lot of Dems who have jumped to the Republican side would vote for him in droves along with many never trumpers. Of course getting to be the elector for the Dems would be an uphill fight for sure under the current ruling climate.
 
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There are probably centrist Democrats that actually admire and respect that Manchin stopped the crazy.
 
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as biden stands next to a woman and boy who lost their house in the Kentucky tornado:

"I kid and say the best thing to ever come out of Kentucky is my sister in law ...."

video at :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1471233554491322372



Yeah, imagine Dubya standing in the devastation in New Orleans after Katrina and saying, “I kid and say the best thing to come out of Louisiana is jambalaya.”



 
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Just one small part of the proposed BBB bill:

The bill also would go a long way toward putting some electric vehicles on level ground with gas-powered cars on price

Experts say that could spur wider adoption of EVs — a key element of President Biden's plan to decarbonize the transportation sector.
And 100 years from now when the earth is in fracking melt-down because all those MILLIONS of batteries don't decompose and are stuck in landfills for THOUSANDS OF YEARS polluting the planet with chemicals and radioactive waste, these Leftist f**ktards will STILL find a way to blame President Trump.

GOTDAMP, it just overcooks my grits!



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Yeah, imagine Dubya standing in the devastation in New Orleans after Katrina and saying, “I kid and say the best thing to come out of Louisiana is jambalaya.”
NO SHIT!!! That decrepit, senile, pants-shitting asshat gets a pass on EVERYTHING!!! Again...refer to picture above. Mad



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Experts say that could spur wider adoption of EVs — a key element of President Biden's plan to decarbonize the transportation sector.

Someone should tell these "experts" where electricity comes from... Roll Eyes



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Someone should tell these "experts" where electricity comes from... Roll Eyes
NO SHIT! Oh good LORD!!! ANOTHER great point!!!

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There are probably centrist Democrats that actually admire and respect that Manchin stopped the crazy.

There are many people, me being one of them, who are neither conservatives nor leftists, that truly wish we had choices.

There was a time, it seems like it was ages ago, now, when I occasionally voted for a Democrat. Now, with the crazy having overwhelmed the party, there's not a chance in hell.



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There are probably centrist Democrats that actually admire and respect that Manchin stopped the crazy.


I saw a tweet from a Washington insider that said just that (I wish I could find it). He stated there are actually many Dems who do not like this BBB nonsense and do not want to vote for it but are reluctant to come forward for political reasons and they are basically hiding behind Manchin and Sinema at this point.


 
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Joe Manchin will never be POTUS, and that would be true even if he had not completely alienated his own party.


Manchin has a lot of skeletons rattling around in his closet.

Depending on a running mate, he could reunite the centrists and the conservatives leaving the far left and right completely out of the picture.

His family made their money in energy. I'd guess he would bring reactivate the Keystone Pipeline. He'd probably carry every state it touches.

He's Catholic.

Downside, he's a old white guy.
 
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Originally posted by sdy:
as biden stands next to a woman and boy who lost their house in the Kentucky tornado:

"I kid and say the best thing to ever come out of Kentucky is my sister in law ...."

video at :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1471233554491322372



Yeah, imagine Dubya standing in the devastation in New Orleans after Katrina and saying, “I kid and say the best thing to come out of Louisiana is jambalaya.”


Interestingly, Mike Pence showed up without on notice on behalf of President Trump. Very low profile, very low key. He stayed in the area for a day without alerting the media and causing a circus like Slow Joe did. Per his wishes, nothing was released on social media until he was gone from the area. He avoided the media because he felt the ensuing circus was not what was best for Mayfield. He and his wife were a true class act. Super down to earth, super respectful.

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Peter Schweizer, president of the Government Accountability Institute (GAI), praised Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) as a “profile in courage” who rejected offers for self-enrichment

Schweizer and Eggers reflected on their research of political corruption in Washington, DC, while examining Manchin’s recent refusal to join other Democrats in passing the $4.91 trillion spending proposal in the “Build Back Better” legislation pushed by the Biden administration and left-wing news media.

In previous iterations of the Build Back Better bill, Gayle Manchin, who’s married to Joe Manchin, was nominated to serve as the co-chair of something called the Appalachian Regional Commission. It’s just this regional entity that distributes funds to help improve infrastructure networks. That job, which she was nominated to by the Biden administration, comes with a salary of $163,000 dollars.

In subsequent iterations of this [Build Back Better] legislation, that Appalachian regional commissioner — the ARC — would have received upwards of $300 million dollars, right?

So some people have pointed this out that, “Hey, Joe Biden appoints Joe Manchin’s wife, everybody knows Joe Manchin is going to be a key vote on this, appoints his wife to this commission and is poised to receive a big time payout from this bill.” This is just how Washington works, right?

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...ion-self-enrichment/
 
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as biden stands next to a woman and boy who lost their house in the Kentucky tornado:

"I kid and say the best thing to ever come out of Kentucky is my sister in law ...."

video at :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1471233554491322372


He is out of touch with reality.
 
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He's the same jackass he's always been, running his fucking mouth non-stop with his stupid, boring, barely coherent stories.

Really, he just needs STFU for good.

Let's see how much you like people yucking it up when your life has been ripped apart, you jackass.
 
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Originally posted by sdy:
as biden stands next to a woman and boy who lost their house in the Kentucky tornado:

"I kid and say the best thing to ever come out of Kentucky is my sister in law ...."

video at :

https://twitter.com/i/status/1471233554491322372



Yeah, imagine Dubya standing in the devastation in New Orleans after Katrina and saying, “I kid and say the best thing to come out of Louisiana is jambalaya.”

Imagine what Biden must have been doing to his sister in law to come up with a comment like that. That whole family is beginning to seem just a little odd.
 
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That whole family is beginning to seem just a little odd.

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The Bidens make the Adams family appear well adjusted.
 
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