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I honestly don’t understand how you can legislate the braces while still allowing the braces.

I mean do you say that if you aren’t disabled then therefore owning a brace is constructive intent and even then how do you prove that??? Do you troll shooting ranges looking for folks using as a stock?? Seems like a wasted of time and resources. If one is used in a crime do you tack more time on? I mean fine by me if you commit a violent crime sure throw whatever additional charges you want.

My point is, assuming one allows for the sale and use of braces without making it them NFA “stocks / SBR’s” then I just don’t see how you can do anything about it.

I am not a brace owner nor have I ever actually fired a firearm with one so maybe I am missing something but just seems like there isn’t much you can do without making them fall under SBR law.

For the record I think SBR/SBS/Can laws are stupid. Full auto I could argue requires extra training/experience or there is a slightly greater risk to you or others but the SBR/SBS and suppressors current rules are stupid all stop.


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I didn't think the Hunter Biden story could get more weird, but it did.

Hard to believe the media kept all this quiet before the election

https://www.dailywire.com/news...ss-crackhead-bicycle

Hunter Biden shared his Logan Circle, D.C., apartment with a crackhead named “Bicycles” for five months, where “the two of us interacted with a deranged, crack-addled version of the Odd Couple,” the president’s son wrote in his memoir.

Bicycles had seven children, “one on death row, another in prison for life. She didn’t know the whereabouts of the five others,” the book said.

“Almost anyone who lives or works in DC has at one time or another seen Bicycles–also known as Rhea, a homeless, middleaged Black woman–weaving in and out of traffic or swerving around sidewalk pedestrians” with a “piercing voice that can be heard a block away as she shouts for everybody to get the hell out of her way, which she does almost continuously,” Biden wrote.

Biden had a decades-long relationship with Bicycles , buying crack from her in a park near the White House when he was a Georgetown University student in the 1990s.

Decades later, Biden would throw change out of his apartment window to her and she would go to the store to buy him cigarettes.

In 2016, Biden relapsed on cocaine while in Monte Carlo for a meeting of the board of Burisma, the Ukranian gas company that paid him five figures a month after getting angry that Europeans discussing Brexit did not heed his warnings about the “rise of far-right populism.” When he returned to the U.S., he admitted the cocaine use to a drug counselor but refused to take a drug test, instead returning to the park and buying crack from Bicycles, which he smoked outside a downtown coffee shop.

Bicycles eventually moved into his apartment, with Biden giving her keys. “She commandeered the TV and only watched those true-crime shows, with the volume turned way up,” he wrote, at one point believing a serial killer was hiding inside the walls.

But Bicycles had her act together more than Biden in some ways and “got mad when I left dirty clothes on the coffee table or spilled vodka on the rug,” he wrote.

Later while living in Los Angeles, Biden was repeatedly shooed from hotels for the disruptive behavior of himself and his guests, which he blamed on racism by hotel staff. He wrote:

An ant-trail of dealers and their sidekicks rolled in and out, day and night. They pulled up in late-series Mercedes-Benzes, decked out in oversized Raiders or Lakers jerseys and flashing fake Rolexes. Their stripper girlfriends invited their girlfriends, who invited their boyfriends. They’d drink up the entire minibar, call room service for filet mignon and a bottle of Dom Pérignon. One of the women even ordered an additional filet for her purse-sized dog. When they finished, two or three days later, they’d walk out with the hotel’s monogrammed towels and throw pillows and comforters and ashtrays.

But when the “front desk informed me that guests were complaining about the parade of ne’er-do-wells traipsing in and out of my room and asked me to leave[,] I saw it as blatant racism and let them know it.”

Biden’s book “Beautiful Things” was released Tuesday.
 
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^^^^^^ Wow. And to think good ol' Billy Carter was just a drunk.

Wonder when Hunter will come out with his own line of crack pipes....

Sure, every family has that messed up relative, but this guy takes the cake.




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The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions.

Any idea what THIS 'pillar' of the new EO means? Roll Eyes

Sounds racist. Big Grin


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Posts: 5745 | Location: Ohio | Registered: December 27, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Biden's pick for ATF thinks the Branch Davidians at Waco shot down two government helicopters.




https://twitter.com/redsteeze/.../1380148877001584645
https://www.austinchronicle.co...ws/1999-11-12/74648/
https://www.reddit.com/r/polit...o_fight_gun/eztgy6d/

Biden called it the AFT multiple times in the announcement Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/bennyjohns.../1380193869401313284



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Posts: 29408 | Location: In the red hinterlands of Deep Blue VA | Registered: June 29, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If he didn't tackle importation of ammo (fingers crossed he does no such thing), which would be truly devastating, it just shows how much of a eunuch he actually is.

Flaccid Joe.

Sshhhhh. I stumbled across a cheap Wolf upper - I need to stack some steel Grendel.
 
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Chipman is a sterling example of why brilliant minds at ATF thought it was a good idea to raid into the Branch Davidians. From what I understand, if they wanted Koresh, they could have easily grabbed him when he made a grocery run. With Chipman at the helm, can there be more of that kind of idiocy at ATF? Stay tuned!


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Are people stupid enough to believe that serial numbers on guns cannot be removed or altered to make the gun "untraceable"? Really. Any gun can become a "ghost" if the serial number is removed. This is just ATF not liking 80% receivers because it is "too easy" to make a finished gun. I doubt any 80% receiver has ever been used in street crime.

The brace thing has been discussed before. They will devise a rule about what is a brace and what isn't. Length of pull, suitability for one-handed firing, sharing of parts with stocks (like using standard carbine buffer tubes), and whether or not it is a stock that can be used as a brace, or a brace that could be used as a stock. Looks like ATF will have to review and approve brace designs now. They have already specifically allowed the Sig brace and Tailhook, but I don't think things like the SBA3 has ever been decided.

Only in the crazy world of gun control politics could a device intended to make a pistol able to be fired MORE ACCURATEly be considered "making pistols more dangerous". Fine, from now on our "large format" pistols will be fired "from the hip" without proper aiming and we will "spray" bullets instead of hit our intended targets.
 
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Chipman is a sterling example of why brilliant minds at ATF thought it was a good idea to raid into the Branch Davidians. From what I understand, if they wanted Koresh, they could have easily grabbed him when he made a grocery run. With Chipman at the helm, can there be more of that kind of idiocy at ATF? Stay tuned!


He's a nutjob radical. Not only does he want to ban the sale of AR's, he wants all existing ones registered.

https://www.nationalreview.com...atic-to-run-the-atf/



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he can go fuck himself

I see on OANN where the Resident-Elect has issued an EO on gun control

well bless his heart
 
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Maybe resident Biden should put Hunter in charge of his gun control program. Hunter is experienced in getting rid of guns.
 
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Biden is giving the Justice Department a 60-day period to develop model "red flag" legislation that would allow friends and family members to identify an individual as a potential danger, thereby temporarily preventing the person from accessing a firearm.

That could well be called the Hunter Biden Law. As discussed earlier, Hunter Biden acquired a handgun despite his long-standing drug and alcohol abuse as well as a history of depression.

In 2018, the gun was tossed into a trash bin in Wilmington by Hallie Biden, widow of the deceased brother of Hunter. After the death of his brother Beau, Hunter began a sexual relationship with Hallie and she apparently became concerned about what he might do with the gun. That is precisely the concern for the Red Flag law.

In many ways, her action reflected the need for such laws. In desperation, she threw the gun away but chose a garbage bin not far from a school.

To get the revolver back, Biden answered "no" on the firearms transaction record that asked whether he was an "unlawful user of, or addicted to" a narcotic drug or any other controlled substance. Lying on that federal form can lead to prosecution under several provisions. The United States code makes it a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison to "make any false or fictitious oral or written statement" to obtain firearms.




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Biden is giving the Justice Department a 60-day period to develop model "red flag" legislation that would allow friends and family members to identify an individual as a potential danger, thereby temporarily preventing the person from accessing a firearm.

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Knowing people as I do, Joe the next door neighbor knows you have guns. He does not like you and rings up the cops. Goodbye guns. The laws for filing a Commitment Affidavit for mental illness were similar. The poor guy was picked up and put in a holding cell until seen by a Clinical Psychologist. If there was no merit he would be released several days later. A big waste of time. When a sworn affidavit was required and an upfront fee of 500 dollars was required the problem went away.
 
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Biden answered "no" on the firearms transaction record that asked whether he was an "unlawful user of, or addicted to" a narcotic drug or any other controlled substance. Lying on that federal form can lead to prosecution under several provisions. The United States code makes it a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison to "make any false or fictitious oral or written statement" to obtain firearms.
Don't hold your breath.



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Are people stupid enough to believe that serial numbers on guns cannot be removed or altered to make the gun "untraceable"? Really. Any gun can become a "ghost" if the serial number is removed.


Believe it or not, 99% of 'erased' serial numbers can be recovered by a halfway competent crime lab.

When the manufacturer stamps them at the factory, it distorts and compresses the metal where the number is stamped. This can be recovered at the lab. Filing or otherwise obscuring the number is only effective on visual inspection.
 
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Gonna have to put a few of the "off the books" guns in the safe deposit box. May need to grab a few more private party guns soon.
 
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Not to drift but how many crimes are solved by tracing serial numbers?


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Not to drift but how many crimes are solved by tracing serial numbers?

Traces are used to find the trail of how the gun got into the criminals hands...in my career running numbers at traffic stops or during field interviews or when recovered during arrests or foot chases, we found stolen guns and we were able to prove the guns didn’t belong to the criminal at hand, and occasionally enhancing his sentencing at trial for felon with a firearm...

In NC there is no registration, so it was sometimes hard to prove who the gun belonged to if it hadn’t been entered as stolen, we could only trace it to the gun store that sold it, many times as a detective we would get to that guy and he would tell us he sold it to a buddy or someone and he never did any kind of bill of sale or kept records(which he was not required to do) so it ran into a dead end.

I’ve bought and sold guns my whole life looking for the perfect one for me....probably 50 guns and I never did any paperwork or kept track of who I sold to,as I wasn’t in the business of buying and selling for profit.



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Are people stupid enough to believe that serial numbers on guns cannot be removed or altered to make the gun "untraceable"? Really. Any gun can become a "ghost" if the serial number is removed.


Believe it or not, 99% of 'erased' serial numbers can be recovered by a halfway competent crime lab.

When the manufacturer stamps them at the factory, it distorts and compresses the metal where the number is stamped. This can be recovered at the lab. Filing or otherwise obscuring the number is only effective on visual inspection.


That’s true when a number is roll stamped into metal. What about polymer guns with the S/N on a little piece of metal embedded in the polymer frame? Just dig out the serial plate and toss it. I don’t see how that is recoverable by any crime lab.



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Biden damage running deep

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...-about-race-politics

Rep. Michael Waltz, R-Fla., a Green Beret and Afghan War veteran, warned of dangerous consequences for the U.S. military's effectiveness and abilities if reported anti-White critical race theory curriculum continues to be taught to cadets at West Point Military Academy.

Waltz reacted Thursday on "Tucker Carlson Tonight" after host Tucker Carlson reported under Superintendent Darryl Williams, cadets at the Hudson Valley military institution are mandated to go through controversial trainings, to which the host mentioned a classroom slide labeled "White Power at West Point," -- which reportedly gave one example of such as a comment made by a cadet in opposition to Affirmative Action.

Another example Carlson said Waltz had obtained is evidence of a lecture entitled "Understanding Whiteness and White Rage" -- which the host called "a pure racial attack."

Waltz said he received documents from cadets and their families who are "disturbed" at the radical shift at West Point.

One of the things that has me so disturbed as a member of the armed services committee and a combat veteran is when you come into the United States Army, is from from day one, you are all the same.

"You are told the only skin color you should worry about is camouflage... The enemy’s bullets don’t care about Black, White, or Brown, or political party or race or religion or any of that. And we shouldn’t care about it either as we are teaching the future leaders of the United States Army."

"As a Green Beret, I can’t imagine being in a situation in combat where I am ordering a soldier to charge a machine gun and he now has the seed planted in his mind -- am I sending him him because he is African-American? Should I feel guilty because of White privilege?"

"That is absolutely destructive to morale, to unity, to everything that I know from a military, that by the way integrated way before the rest of the country, in 1948."
 
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