Re: Kamala's nervous giggling, wouldn't it be funny if the only reason she was doing that was because her handlers told her she needs to "feminize" herself "so she doesn't seem so threatening to Middle America"?

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.breitbart.com/poli...ond-biting-incident/

One of the Biden family dogs — a three-year-old German shepherd named Major — was involved in a second biting incident at the White House, according to a Tuesday afternoon report.

The incident, which involved a National Park Service employee, took place on the White House South Lawn on Monday afternoon. The employee was working at the time and needed to stop in order to receive treatment from the White House medical unit. Asked about this latest episode, first lady Jill Biden’s press secretary Michael LaRosa told CNN: “Yes, Major nipped someone on a walk. Out of an abundance of caution, the individual was seen by WHMU and then returned to work.”

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I love dogs, but if Major can't adjust to the WH environment, Biden needs to find him a new home.

Could you only imagine the tizzy the media would be in if Trumps dogs had bitten anyone just once.

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Originally posted by sdy:

One of the Biden family dogs — a three-year-old German shepherd named Major — was involved in a second biting incident at the White House, according to a Tuesday afternoon report.

Ironic that Limbaugh would refer to creepy Joe as "BiteMe".

In defense of the dog. If he is close to his owner. He may be sensing there is a need to protect him from all that is going on around him that seem's threatening. I have a suspicion the dog feels a real need to protect his owner. And probably rightfully so.

I have seen a dog nip a nurse who was caring for an elderly person. It is not uncommon.

If you are on the dogs grounds and he is in that protective mode. You may get bit.

Don't misinterpret what I am saying.

I am not condoning the dogs behavior. But I understand what is most likely happening there.

Jerk owner, jerk dog... not shocking.

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Originally posted by divil:
Jerk owner, jerk dog... not shocking.

This. If your dog has not been properly trained and socialized (which this dog obviously hasn't been), then he should not be exposed to other people. Just another irresponsible dog owner thinking any problem with their dog is someone else's fault.

"Does your dog bite?"

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Originally posted by Sailor1911:
"Does your dog bite?"

"That's not my dog."

Which in Joe's current state is probably how he responded...having forgotten he had a dog.

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This. If your dog has not been properly trained and socialized (which this dog obviously hasn't been), then he should not be exposed to other people. Just another irresponsible dog owner thinking any problem with their dog is someone else's fault.

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In spades. As I understand it, sleepy Joe was not present when the dog bit the worker who was out on the lawn working. More than a nip if he needed medical attention. Hope he files a lawsuit for emotional trauma, pain and suffering.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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This. If your dog has not been properly trained and socialized (which this dog obviously hasn't been), then he should not be exposed to other people. Just another irresponsible dog owner thinking any problem with their dog is someone else's fault.

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In spades. As I understand it, sleepy Joe was not present when the dog bit the worker who was out on the lawn working. More than a nip if he needed medical attention. Hope he files a lawsuit for emotional trauma, pain and suffering.

We don't know the details (and likely never will).

I was bit by a German Shepherd several years ago, and I still have a scar (on the back of my arm). However, the dog is a great family pet, well-socialized, and really a good boy.

I was playing with a couple of the dogs (the Shepherd was one of 6 dogs in the family). I was on my hands and knees acting like I was attacking one of the smaller dogs. I thought I was just playing. The Shepherd came up behind me and bit me on the arm (through a quilted flannel shirt). Dropped me like a ton of bricks.

I realized it was 100% my fault. He was simply protecting his pack-mate.

To this day, I think the whole thing was hilarious. I still love that dog, and he's my favorite out of the whole bunch. He was naturally reacting to what he perceived as a threat.

Not every dog bite is the dog's fault or means the dog is 'dangerous,' and it doesn't mean it was because the dog was 'bad.'

Of course, I'm also aware that the dog is part of a corrupt and wicked family (even before the dementia, biden was NOT a good person). I can also see how the dog could be simply manifesting the bad influences of the family to which he belongs. . .

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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This. If your dog has not been properly trained and socialized (which this dog obviously hasn't been), then he should not be exposed to other people. Just another irresponsible dog owner thinking any problem with their dog is someone else's fault.

^^^^^^^^^^^
In spades. As I understand it, sleepy Joe was not present when the dog bit the worker who was out on the lawn working. More than a nip if he needed medical attention. Hope he files a lawsuit for emotional trauma, pain and suffering.

We don't know the details (and likely never will).

I was bit by a German Shepherd several years ago, and I still have a scar (on the back of my arm). However, the dog is a great family pet, well-socialized, and really a good boy.

I was playing with a couple of the dogs (the Shepherd was one of 6 dogs in the family). I was on my hands and knees acting like I was attacking one of the smaller dogs. I thought I was just playing. The Shepherd came up behind me and bit me on the arm (through a quilted flannel shirt). Dropped me like a ton of bricks.

I realized it was 100% my fault. He was simply protecting his pack-mate.

To this day, I think the whole thing was hilarious. I still love that dog, and he's my favorite out of the whole bunch. He was naturally reacting to what he perceived as a threat.

Not every dog bite is the dog's fault or means the dog is 'dangerous,' and it doesn't mean it was because the dog was 'bad.'

Of course, I'm also aware that the dog is part of a corrupt and wicked family (even before the dementia, biden was NOT a good person). I can also see how the dog could be simply manifesting the bad influences of the family to which he belongs. . .

The people who know me here know my dogs are like family, and that I've fostered a few additional dogs over time to try and give them a shot at a new beginning. I'd walk across Hell barefoot for my dogs. That said, there is no excuse for a dog (with the exception of Police K9 or security animals) to bite. None. I wouldn't even accept a bite given the circumstances of your encounter. If there is any question whatsoever how a dog will behave in public around people, that dog has no business whatsoever being around people. You could literally do anything to the last three adopted hounds I've had and they would not bite. Once at the park while I was talking with someone, a little kid wobbled over to my 70 hound hound, grabbed his joules with both hands, and slammed his face into Lou's. Lou pulled back, then went in hard...for the lick.

Long story short, Joe's a moron on many levels. Bringing these dogs into the White House is simply one of them.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

...my dogs are like family,
**Snip**
I'd walk across Hell barefoot for my dogs.

I feel exactly the same way about mine.

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That said, there is no excuse for a dog (with the exception of Police K9 or security animals) to bite. None. I wouldn't even accept a bite given the circumstances of your encounter.

I have mixed feelings on this. Yes, a dog should never bite a child. I was bit by a dog when I was five, so bad that I needed stitches. To this day (almost 50 years later) I wonder if I stepped on his tail or something to provoke him. But, I also realize it shouldn't matter. That dog had no justification for biting a 5-yr old.

Years ago, my 2 yr old nephew was poking one of my Bassets in the eye. He just laid there. He would not hurt a fly.

My other Basset bit me several times, drawing blood at least on two occasions. This second Basset was a tad on the unstable side, to be honest. He had a temper, and was often grouchy and 'bitey.'

I still don't blame the Shepherd that bit me. I was acting in a threatening manner towards one of his pack. In retrospect, I should have expected his reaction. We WANT our animals to be protective. It wasn't his fault that I represented a threat to the safety of those he was protecting. I would have expected the same reaction if I acted like I was going to attack a human in the dog's family.

In other words, we should not be surprised when a dog, ESPECIALLY a protective breed like a German Shepherd, bites somebody who was acting in a threatening manner. The dog doesn't always know when the person is fooling around, or is a serious threat.

Especially a dementia patient who's handlers that are controlling almost all of his actions and of which the dog does not know most of them. It is a recipe for a protective dog doing what comes naturally to him.

Big deal, I give you credit as you epitomize the concept of black and white.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
We WANT our animals to be protective.

Perhaps you do, but I most assuredly do not. My dogs are family companions, nothing more. Large hairy throw rugs if you will that constantly keep my BP in check. I do not expect them to act aggressively toward anyone at any time regardless the circumstances. If they'll offer up a bark to notify me that someone is outside at the front door, I'll consider that a bonus.

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In other words, we should not be surprised when a dog, ESPECIALLY a protective breed like a German Shepherd, bites somebody who was acting in a threatening manner. The dog doesn't always know when the person is fooling around, or is a serious threat.

And to this I would simply reiterate that if your dog has any tendency whatsoever to bite, he has no business out in public or near people unfamiliar to him. I take my dogs everywhere with me and I have to 'know' they will not react aggressively no matter the situation. For god sake, my 70 pound male hound almost got eaten alive by a...miniature poodle. And his response? He simply looped around and put me between him and that little hellyun. That little hairy bastard actually drew blood, and Lou still turned the other cheek. Did I mention previously how much I love that dog?

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Big deal, I give you credit as you epitomize the concept of black and white.

The gray area in between on this issue will land you in court looking down the barrel of a nasty lawsuit. If I ever find myself facing a court case like this it's going to be because 'I' either beat the hell out of someone who attacked me, or ventilated them. The dog need not be a part of it.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

My dogs are family companions, nothing more. Large hairy throw rugs if you will that constantly keep my BP in check. I do not expect them to act aggressively toward anyone at any time regardless the circumstances. If they'll offer up a bark to notify me that someone is outside at the front door, I'll consider that a bonus.

I think it unreasonable to expect that your dog(s) would just sit back and do nothing if (God forbid) you were ever assaulted.

It is in their nature to be protective of their pack. Dogs are 'imperfectly domesticated.' I don't believe that dogs (pets or otherwise) can ever be trained out of their protective natures. Nor would I want them to be.

I would never sic my dogs on an intruder or attacker (that is what my AR/shotgun/Glock/P226, etc are for). However, I KNOW they would not hesitate to attack an entire battalion if they thought our lives were in danger.

I read a story where a guy had a heart attack while walking his dog, and he died because his Rottweiler would not allow any good Samaritans to intervene.

Back to topic, I agree with old rugged cross. The dog isn't fooled, and knows his master has lost his marbles, and is therefore much more likely to act out.

Apparently, one of Joe's dogs gave birth to a Democrat today. Bidens dog gives birth.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
Back to topic, I agree with old rugged cross. The dog isn't fooled, and knows his master has lost his marbles, and is therefore much more likely to act out.

It could be that. 'Or' it could be these dogs haven't been trained worth a damn and have no clue how to behave in less than ideal conditions.

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Originally posted by Johnny 3eagles:
Apparently, one of Joe's dogs gave birth to a Democrat today. Bidens dog gives birth.

I'd really love to meet the 'trainer(s)' who have worked with Biden's dogs. Biting random people and crapping in the house. Yeah they're well trained alright. Probably just following their owner's lead.

The dog was probably just a scapegoat for Ex-vice president Biden....

The dog has been abused. Joe pulls his tail when he gets out of the shower nekkid. Having the tail jerked on is one thing but having to witness Joe naked is traumatic. The poor animal can no longer be held responsible for his actions. PTSD is a terrible thing.