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Originally posted by jljones:
How many in class really believe that Slow Joe's "It's Trump's fault" will actually win over undecided voters?

Those who already plan on voting for higher taxes, gun control, defunding the police, or just generally voting D are prepared to pull that lever. But, outside of the "anybody but Orange man" and the negative nannies that show up in these threads, does anyone really think that it is going to work?

I have trouble understanding how anyone could vote for that senile fool or that vile self-serving piece of filth that is his running mate. Having seen the results of many CA elections though, I have learned not to underestimate voter stupidity. In this case, I expect that voter stupidity will account for roughly 24% of the vote and instead of beating Sleepy, Creepy, Slow Joe 99% to 1% the true vote will be closer to 75% PDJT to 25% Slow Joe. Really, the only question is what percentage of the vote will the commies be able to steal through fraud? My guess is it still won’t be enough, but time will tell.

I started to post this in the riot thread, but thought it might be better here. The past 24 hours have been pretty infuriating and it's a good representation of what is going on. Biden and the media aren't even trying to hide the hypocrisy and it is absolutely infuriating.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:

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Originally posted by 46and2:
I've never met anyone who is actually undecided at this juncture.

At this point I think it's really a matter of turnout over swaying any undecideds who are left. I can see plenty of never-Trumpers not able to bring themselves to vote for Trump, but be willing to just sit it out and not vote.

Maybe so. Never Trumpers are definitely a concern. I hope they are few, in reality.

My primary concern, election wise, is the fraud-vector that mass mail-in ballots expose us to. That much easier to fake, and short of an exhaustive confirmation of every ballot we'll never even know for sure.

Maddeningly frightening, so to speak.

As always:

* barely 50% of eligible voters even participate, this rarely moves more than a percent or so.
* each modern POTUS election, even veritable asskickings, are won by thin margins of less than 5%.

So in a sense - no more than 5% of 50% of eligible voters are essentially deciding each election.

It doesn't take much successful fuckery to mess up a 5% or less margin of only 50% of eligible voters...

The combination of thin margins and potential mail-in voter fraud tbis time is the real threat, I think.

Where "an extra" 500 ballots or some inevitable fuckery can swing some areas. It's a very real threat.

Hopefully, crazy media aside, President Trump somehow has 5% or more new supporters this time.

As a buffer...

If, for instance, President Trump manages to win by a margin of more than 5%, it will truly be a rare statement of support from the American voters... that's what I think really tells us how popular he is (contrary to the media narrative), the margin of victory, especiallys ones that are razor thin or 5% or more, not just the win..

Winning matters most, obviously.

https://townhall.com/columnist...lm-violence-n2575494

On Monday, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden was finally forced to confront the left-wing violence that has been plaguing America's major cities for months on end: riots in New York, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, Chicago, Portland and Seattle, among other cities. For a full week, the Democratic National Convention ignored that ongoing violence, driven by members of the Black Lives Matter and Antifa movements.

The only solution to America's ills, Biden held, could be found in repeating pernicious slogans about supposed systemic American racism. On Aug. 9, Biden tweeted: "It's been six years since Michael Brown's life was taken in Ferguson -- reigniting a movement. We must continue the work of tackling systemic racism and reforming policing." Never mind that two state investigations and the Obama Department of Justice found that Brown was justifiably shot; no facts are necessary to continue repeating mantras.

Then, a small Wisconsin town, Kenosha, burst into flames.

At first, the media tried to excuse the burning, rioting and looting. After all, they proclaimed, this was justified rage at the systemic racism of American policing. It simply didn't matter that Jacob Blake, who was shot by police, had resisted arrest, bucked police officers off of him, ignored their orders and then reached into his vehicle, where a knife was later found on the driver's side floorboards. It also didn't matter that Blake has faced vicious criminal charges and had an open warrant for sexual assault and domestic violence -- and that the police reportedly arrived only after being called by a woman who alleged that Blake digitally raped her in front of one of her children. The police were the problem.

Biden tweeted that George Floyd and Blake can't become "just another pair of hashtags," and that instead, it was time to "reverse systemic racism."

But Americans didn't see the riots and looting in Kenosha as indicative of a reaction to American racism. They saw it for what it was: horrific behavior. And so, Biden was forced to leave his basement -- to fly to Pennsylvania, of all places, and deliver a 12-minute address denouncing violence.

Biden blamed the police, Trump and white supremacists for the violence. He name-checked "right-wing militias" and "white supremacists." He made no mention of Black Lives Matter or Antifa, the actual sources of rioting and looting in American cities.

Check this out not only for the commentary, but watch how the media in this country used to work. Quite the contrast to the DNC propaganda arm they've become today.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?...xLk&feature=emb_logo

LMAO, now he's playing meeetoooo! with Trump

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Biden Backtracks - Will Visit Kenosha After All

The Democratic presidential candidate will hold a "community meeting" to "bring together Americans to heal and address the challenges we face," before he makes a local stop in the city, according to Axios, citing an announcement from the Biden campaign...

Link


This is starting to remind me of that scene in Oh Brother Where Art Thou? where Pappy O'Daniel is plotting against his political rival:

Junior O'Daniel: We could hire our own midget, even shorter than his.

Pappy O'Daniel: Wouldn't we look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, bragging on our own midget, doesn't matter how stumpy!

"I've done dumb things and I'll do dumb things again"
He keeps his promises at least.

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://townhall.com/columnist...lm-violence-n2575494

And so, Biden was forced to leave his basement -- to fly to Pennsylvania, of all places, and deliver a 12-minute address denouncing violence.

Pennsylvania and Florida will be the two key states in this election.

But what is telling about that, PA should be an easy win for Biden. The fact that they had to send him to PA to show his face tells me his campaign is in big trouble.

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Check this out not only for the commentary, but watch how the media in this country used to work. Quite the contrast to the DNC propaganda arm they've become today.

^^^^^^^^
Thanks for posting. I remember this. Top half of law class, plagerizing.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Pennsylvania and Florida will be the two key states in this election.

More than that: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are all felt to be key states.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Pennsylvania and Florida will be the two key states in this election.

More than that: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are all felt to be key states.

Yes... that's where the battle will be fought.

If we keep a close eye on mail-in ballots, including who counts them, Trump has a good chance to win all of these key states.

Evidence of the plot to steal the 2020 election by the Democrats via the Mail-In Voting scheme is coming into sharper focus. Even the media propagandists and others are starting to admit that Trump may be heading for the closest thing to a landslide victory since '84 or '88 is accurate, they are using that as merely the springboard to state that when the mail-in votes are tabulated, it will be as if the win was an illusion, or a mirage, or some such bilge.

Hawkfish -- a "data analytics agency founded by Michael Bloomberg to support Democratic candidates" per Axios, contends that President Trump will likely win an "incredible victory" with the Electoral College on election night.

However, Mendelsohn continues, "...when every legitimate vote is tallied and we get to that final day, which will be someday after Election Day, it will in fact show that what happened on election night was exactly that, a mirage. It looked like Donald Trump was in the lead and he fundamentally was not when every ballot gets counted..."

The scenario is eerily similar to [UKIP's Nigel] Farage's forewarning of how "dark art operatives in the Democrats" are intent on "abusing" mail-in ballots to secure a victory for Biden. Farage noted President Trump would "absolutely" win the Electoral College but warned of Democrats weaponizing mail-in ballots in the following days:

"On the day, he'll win the vote. My worry, and you just touched on it, is this early mail-in voting. I've seen postal voting, the British equivalent of this, abused wholesale in the United Kingdom to the advantage of the left. The worst scenario of all is on the morning of the fourth of November, Trump looks like the winner, and then over the course of the next ten days, all these mail-in votes are counted and the result gets reversed."

I live in a fairly liberal area and thus know a few Democrats. None of them have expressed a like of Biden. A few have been very vocal in their dislike of him as a candidate. Most will still vote for him but there are some that will not.

The Dems have a problem. Their party is split between the new very far left ones that think Biden isn't enough. Then you have the others. They all may dislike Trump but they also dislike Biden. All these riots, defunding the police and rising crime is making some rethink what is best for them.

They may want to be on the side of BLM and want changes in policing but they also want to be safe. Protest are fine but the push to riot, burn down and destroy business only every time resonates with only a small amount of people. They are pushing(scaring) some of there party away.

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Originally posted by comet24:
I live in a fairly liberal area and thus know a few Democrats. None of them have expressed a like of Biden. A few have been very vocal in their dislike of him as a candidate. Most will still vote for him but there are some that will not.

The Dems have a problem. Their party is split between the new very far left ones that think Biden isn't enough. Then you have the others. They all may dislike Trump but they also dislike Biden. All these riots, defunding the police and rising crime is making some rethink what is best for them.

They may want to be on the side of BLM and want changes in policing but they also want to be safe. Protest are fine but the push to riot, burn down and destroy business only every time resonates with only a small amount of people. They are pushing(scaring) some of there party away.

I live in a quite liberal area of CA and am surprised at people I know, who I thought were decent, honorable people, who are "rid'n with Biden". They blame Trump for the riots, the virus, excessive gov't spending, etc. I can't figure out the source of their disconnect.

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
I can't figure out the source of their disconnect.

Their extreme stupidity.

Hey, Grandpa! What's for supper?




Check the interpreter on this one. She just gives up.

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I live in a quite liberal area of CA and am surprised at people I know, who I thought were decent, honorable people, who are "rid'n with Biden". They blame Trump for the riots, the virus, excessive gov't spending, etc. I can't figure out the source of their disconnect.

I don't think it's "extreme stupidity".
I think they are ill informed or at least uninformed. It's mostly because they only get news/info from MSM CNBC CNN or social media. Everyone they know, everyone they listen to says something like "Orange Man Bad".

I know an old woman, late 80's, who has her TV on all the time. She's not stupid; she's being brainwashed. She likes Rachel Maddow.