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I think we'd get along well. I am always the one in the group who is a little rough around the edges. Make the church ladies blush a little with my jokes. It's a gift. And a curse. | |||
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Get a load of the pope's brothers By Monica Showalter It's as if God has a sense of humor. Imagine getting elected to the 2,000-year-old Chair of St. Peter. You'd become the head of state of an unbroken succession of popes as well as the leader of the world's largest religion, one watched and followed closely by others, every word you said dissected closely. Your blessings would be sought, you'd deliver the global pieties, you'd avoid grubby politics, focusing on the tenets of your faith. But then, you have these guys behind you, your two brothers, at least one of whom loves himself some Trump. https://www.americanthinker.co...pope_s_brothers.html Brother Lou seems like one of us... "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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"SMH" is a common online acronym that stands for "shaking my head". It's used to express disbelief, frustration, or disapproval when someone is reacting negatively to something they've seen, heard, or read. It's a way of conveying the physical action of shaking one's head in response to something Yes if he's even half the conservative of his brother it's going to be better for the Church.. | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
***Older thread*** This new Pope is a real Dope  https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/st...360573478359190?s=20 | |||
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| The success of a solution usually depends upon your point of view |
Sarcasm? You do know that the Bee is a satire website. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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Except he actually did say that. https://www.ncregister.com/cna...f-those-who-wage-war ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven! |
What? No one told me! Yes, I know but they have a way of hitting the nail right on the head with current events. In this case...Pope Doofus. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Funny thing is: He never criticizes Iran or Islam for 50 years of "Death to America!" and "Submit or Die!" He only criticizes those who stand up to Islam. Pope Leo XIV on Palm Sunday sharply condemned war and the use of religion to justify violence, saying during Mass in St. Peter’s Square that God “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war.” At the start of Holy Week, the Pope tied the Church’s contemplation of Christ’s Passion to the suffering of people caught in today’s conflicts, especially Christians in the Middle East. In his Palm Sunday homily, Leo repeatedly presented Christ as the “King of Peace,” contrasting Jesus’ meekness with the violence surrounding him as he entered into his Passion. “We turn our gaze to Jesus, who reveals himself as King of Peace, even as war looms abounds him,” the pope said. “He remains steadfast in meekness, while others are stirring up violence.” "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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So is The Drudge Report... "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
Criticize? Hell, he gave them a prayer room in the fucking Vatican.  ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Yeah... but I thought Francis was evil. Leo just strikes me as naive. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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^^^ Being from Chicago says a lot. SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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This coming from the Vatican that waged how many crusades? Infiltrated. Let all Men know thee, but no man know thee thoroughly: Men freely ford that see the shallows. Benjamin Franklin | |||
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The Pope’s Easter Message About Peace To understand a Christian’s obligation, it helps to examine whether conflicts sow hatred and division, or whether hatred and division sow conflicts. M. E. Boyd | April 7, 2026 The Vatican, by a 1929 treaty, must remain neutral politically. Swept up in the Italian unification turmoil of the 19th century, and having lost the protection of French troops, the once-important Papal States came to an end. The Vatican’s military protection since 1970 is the ceremonial 16th-century Swiss Guard. The walls around the Vatican were built for protection from Muslim raids in 846-52 AD by Pope Leo IV. This is the context, then, of the Pope’s Easter message of 2026. In summary, Pope Leo XIV said Jesus was about dialogue, where we recognize each other as brothers and sisters, regardless of faith. “Jesus gives us the silence of weapons.” He is the quintessential Prince of Peace. From this premise, with the required neutrality in mind, the Pope then called upon humanity to end the globalization of indifference toward conflict and war. “Let us abandon every desire for conflict...let those who have power to unleash wars choose peace.” The early Christian writer Tertullian, 155/60-240 AD, would have agreed. When Jesus told Peter to put down his sword, Tertullian tells us, he is proclaiming Christian pacifism. So, where does this leave Christians today, caught up in a vicious live war with Iran, and cold wars with China, Russia, and North Korea, among others? In reality, we are on a moral tightrope. The Pope has declared war evil and said plainly that “we cannot be indifferent to the repercussions of hatred and division that conflicts sow.” The question becomes, in trying to understand the nature of the tightrope, whether conflicts sow hatred and division, or whether hatred and division sow conflicts. If we decide it is the latter, this might lead us to a slightly different understanding of the notion of Christian pacifism than what the Pope is calling for in his Easter message. Perhaps we might call it Pragmatic Christian Pacifism. Ambrose of Milan, 340-397 AD, called it “just war.” To Ambrose, this meant defensive war as a last resort, with mercy shown to the defeated. He also posited that the failure to defend can be unjust. A knowledge of relevant history might help us understand these fine distinctions. The moral tightrope we are on is frightening if we look down. On one side of the tightrope, if we fall, is the unrelenting hatred of Western Civilization and America in particular by Islamism, and on the other side is the deadening atheism and inhumanity of Marxism in its many forms. Behind us is Satan’s constant deception, attempting, as we try to gain our moral balance, to sever the very rope we are navigating. The following is a small example and does not include the many lost American lives because of our participation in putting Islamism in power in Iran in 1979. Muhammad claims to have been called to be a prophet of Allah around 610 AD. Christianity was only 600 years old. For the years in Mecca when he struggled, he called for peace. After going to Medina, however, his views became more warlike. It is after his death in 632 AD that the unrelenting calls for conquest and brutality for non-believers began. 638 AD – Jerusalem surrenders to a Muslim army Advertisement 711 AD – Muslims invade Spain 732 AD – Muslims invade France but are stopped by Charles Martel; Western Europe remains Christian 988 AD – Muslims invade Ukraine but are stopped by Vladimir of Kiev; Eastern Europe remains Christian 1091 AD – Muslims drive Christians out of Jerusalem; it was recaptured in 1099, but taken again by Muslims in 1187. Christians were subsequently forced out of the Holy Land altogether 1300 AD – the Muslim Ottoman Empire is formed; many countries are overrun 1524 AD – Muslims begin the siege of Vienna 1571 AD – the Holy League (Venice, Spain, the Papal States, Knights Hospitalier) defeat Muslims in an important naval battle; Europeans breathe a sigh of relief from Muslim terror 1736-1878 AD – Muslims wage war with Russia 1915 AD – Muslims slaughter Armenians 1924 AD – after WWI the Ottoman caliphate (one supreme religious/political leader) is ended; modern Israel is proposed and comes into being in 1948 AD; continuous war between Israel and its neighbors ensues 1979 AD – with the help of America, Shia Mullahs take over Iran and call for the death of the West and America in particular 1979–2026 AD – 47 years of appeasement, bribery, threats, more appeasement, then acceptance of Iran developing weapons of mass destruction in the hopes that after thirteen-hundred and eighty-eight years, Islamism will change its ambitions Should one come to the conclusion that Islamism’s pattern of conquest and brutality is not going to end through dialogue, and that their hatred of Christianity has been unending since 632 AD, what is the “proper” response if, as the Pope says, Jesus calls us to put down the sword, love our enemies, and turn the other cheek from harm and abuse? Perhaps the Pope’s message can best be understood if applied to the person, not necessarily the state. Individual Christians should not be indifferent to suffering in war. Individual Christians should not resign themselves to evil. Individual Christians should not desire conflict. A Christian state, however, with its governing responsibilities, has no duty to commit to its own demise. Fecklessness is not a Christian duty. If war is required to save what Jesus brought to us, we can only hope there emerges within our midst a Charles Martel, a Vladimir of Kiev, or a Philip II of Spain. The defense of Christianity in general, and America in particular, if conducted with appropriate proportionality and mercy, can be within the moral boundaries enunciated by the Pope’s Easter message. There can never be a time in which the individual Christian can be relieved of the anxiety associated with navigating a moral tightrope. This is the very definition of a Pragmatic Christian Pacifist. It might be wise, also, for Pope Leo XIV to remember he is protected only by some 16th-century spears and an easily scaled wall. America may need to exist to prevent his martyrdom. https://www.americanthinker.co...age_about_peace.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
It seems to me that Donald Trump has emerged. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
^^^ Right. Fecklessness is not a Christian duty. The pope wants peace, but I think he needs to understand the larger context of history. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
Abp. Cordileone described the other day how these actions meet and follow Just War Doctrine. Dope Leo might want to dust off his catechism and do a little reading. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Eschew Obfuscation |
I’ve started referring to him as Francis 2.0 (which I think I stole from someone here) and boy does it trigger my (adult) kids. I know he’s been Pope for less than a year, but apart from seeming more personable than Francis (not a big hurdle), I don’t think there’s been much difference. I think my kids are still starry eyed by the fact that he’s a Chicagoan. But I don’t care where he’s from: I want the nonsense to stop. Kill the ‘Synod on Snodality’, revoke Traditiones Custodes, appoint some good bishops, heck - maybe even proclaim the Faith! _____________________________________________________________________ “One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell | |||
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I don't see Leo going over to Iran, asking them to stop developing nuclear weapons, stop murdering their own people and play nice with the rest of the world. Actions, not talk, Leo! _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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?? I think he's got some wires crossed in that assertion. USA gave no help to overthrow the Shah in 1979 that I'm aware of. Having been around at the time, my recollection is that the mullah's revolution took place while, at the Shah's request, the Shah was in the US for medical treatment. Allowing him here for medical care was seen by the Iranians as our trying to help the secular side against the mullahs. | |||
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