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Yep, the ship was clearly having some kind of power issue as it lost illumination several times before striking the bridge. Totally possible that it caused an issue with steerage. I wonder if they sounded the horn or did anything to attempt to warn the people on the bridge prior to impact. The crew had to know it was coming. People in cars probably wouldn't have noticed, but the construction crews might have. Not sure if they would have even had time to get off anyway, though. That whole bridge went down all at once, not just the adjacent spans...crazy. Those poor people. | |||
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That ship was departing the harbor. According to the 'Map Tracker' on the Daily Mail page it pushed off the dock and two tugs had already got it pointed in the right direction well prior the incident. There are also two markers indicating that dead center is NOT where you'd navigate under that bridge, as you'd need to transit right of center (south?) in order to avoid Fort Carroll, which is located on the other side of the bridge. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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That video is terrifying, unless there was a horn and everyone was paying attention, or the maintenance crew randomly was watching every vessel passing underneath, there'd be no way to do anything other than hope you stayed conscious when you hit the water and didn't get chased by debris. Terrible. | |||
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This is bad, that whole area is a major East Coast artery (695?) and there may now be military vessels trapped in the harbor. | |||
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Almost appears it tried to hit it. Probably just the angle. No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride. | |||
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This why the USN spends so much time training on loss of propulsion and loss of steering. I was on the bridge of various ships transiting in and out of port many times. This is an absolute nightmare scenario - zero dark early, restricted maneuverability and casualties with propulsion and steering. Speed is fine, but accuracy is final The use of the pen is an indulgence we can afford only because better men and women grip the sword on our behalf -Ralph Peters | |||
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Looks expensive. | |||
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All right sailors, why dit it turn to the starboard after losing power? Single screw vessel, the screw was still turning and that’s what made it turn starboard. The USN and USCG conduct loss of steering drills every time they sail, to try and combat and prepare for things like this. Same with fires and GQ. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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So at this point, it appears to be a loss of power rather than sabotage or terrorism? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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There will be a lot to ascertain from the investigation. After a lot of time at sea, I can very easily see this as nothing more than a terrible accident. Speed is fine, but accuracy is final The use of the pen is an indulgence we can afford only because better men and women grip the sword on our behalf -Ralph Peters | |||
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Yep. For us (USN), it was part of the pre-underway checklist. Start steering units, then stop the online unit to ensure the offline immediately started. Speed is fine, but accuracy is final The use of the pen is an indulgence we can afford only because better men and women grip the sword on our behalf -Ralph Peters | |||
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Massive disaster. That is horrible. Prayers for those affected by this. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Not to worry, Mayor Pete is riding his bike to the scene. Having some experience with bridge accidents, the federal government has plenty of experience with this sort of thing. If they can award a contract quickly, things will happen fast. | |||
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Keep the political remarks out of it, please. | |||
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I wonder if being that Baltimore is one of the biggest ports in the entire world and that bridge is a main East Coast artery they will expedite this like the PA governor did with I-95 last year. That was going to be closed for a year or two but they has it filled in and drivable within something like 12 days. Of course this is way larger that a concrete overpass but it's a crucial area and they cannot leave that cut off for years. | |||
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Curious, as someone with absolutely zero experience with watercraft beyond a 25hp tiller-steer outboard on my aluminum fishing boat: Is the proper reaction to immediately shut down the shaft when this happens? And we're assuming from the outcome in this incident that that didn't happen? Can the shaft be disengaged/reengaged without shutting down the engine (which I assume would take a long time to restart)? If so, how long would that take to accomplish? | |||
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Horrible. Pretty long span, temporary floating bridge, perhaps? You still lose port access... __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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I'd think getting the port open would take priority over restoring the roadway. There are ways to drive around, albeit inconvenient and far from ideal. There's no other way to get in and out of the port. | |||
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