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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Naval support ships trapped
A major American port paralyzed
Now this, are we sure this was just an accident?

100% sure. But I'm speaking for myself.

I’m also 100% sure. And not just because of what some of the experienced mariners on this forum have opined. Sometimes shit just happens. Given enough time any possibility can happen. Think of how astronomical the odds are at winning the powerball or mega millions, yet people do actually win, hell even I throw a few bucks into the drawings a few times a year too. I see this as just a super unfortunate chain of events where event after event after event went exactly the wrong way and therefore ended in catastrophe. This incident was just a very unlikely shitty situation that unfolded when everything just happened to fall into the right place for it to occur.

^^^Agree both above. I think the circumstances are too complicated and the timing would be too difficult to pull off some kind of attack.

In addition to that, there are reports they were having electrical issues at the dock.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...-after-being-struck/



DEVELOPING: Oklahoma Bridge Shut Down After Being Struck by Barge (VIDEO)
A bridge near the Kerr Lock & Dam in Sallisaw, Oklahoma was shut down on Saturday after it was struck by a barge.



A bridge near the Kerr Lock & Dam in Sallisaw, Oklahoma was shut down on Saturday after it was struck by a barge.

“The Oklahoma Highway Patrol responded to Sequoyah County after a barge hit a bridge near the Kerr Lock & Dam,” 4029tv.com reported.

“US-59 south of Sallisaw at the Kerr Reservoir is completely shut down at this time due to a barge that has struck the bridge. Troopers are diverting traffic away from the area. The bridge is going to be shut down until inspections of the bridge can be made,” Oklahoma Highway Patrol said on Saturday.

Sounds like they’re pretty damn sure that the barge hit the bridge.

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Naval support ships trapped
A major American port paralyzed
Now this, are we sure this was just an accident?

100% sure. But I'm speaking for myself.

I’m also 100% sure. And not just because of what some of the experienced mariners on this forum have opined. Sometimes shit just happens. .

I'm good with shit just happening. The week my son was born A neighboring volcano blew its top and the state came to a halt. Didn't see that one coming.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/b...of-baltimore-reopen/

A massive salvaging effort is underway to reopen the Port of Baltimore after the deadly collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge.

The Navy has mobilized a 1,000-ton lift capacity derrick barge, a 400-ton lift-capacity revolving crane barge and a 160-ton revolving crane to help lift debris from the water, a huge undertaking in the works.

Officials say the section of the bridge trapping the cargo ship dolly weighs between 3,000 and 4,000 tons, so before the Army Corps of Engineers can start moving anything off the water, they're going to have to cut the debris into smaller pieces.

On Saturday evening, officials said demolition crews began cutting portions the collapsed bridge.

"Highly trained demolition crews are cutting the top portion of the north side of the collapsed bridge truss," officials said in an update. "Two crane barges, a 650-ton crane and a 330-ton crane are actively working on scene. The removed wreckage is scheduled to be lifted and transferred to a barge this evening as daylight allows. A 230-ton land-based crane will offload and process the wreckage at Tradepoint Atlantic and will then be taken to a disposal site."

Photos released by officials showed teams in protective gear using an "exothermic cutting torch" on sections of the steel bridge.

All vessel traffic in and out of the port was suspended in the wake of the collapse, but it has remained open for trucks. It isn't clear yet how long it will take to clear the 700-foot span of the channel of thousands of tons of debris.

The Baltimore district of the corps activated its Emergency Operations Center, which clears the way for more than 1,100 engineering, construction, contracting and operations specialists to provide support to local, state and federal agencies.

CBS News correspondent Kris Van Cleave reports everything needs to be cleared from the bottom of the channel — 50 feet below the surface — because there is only 12 to 18 inches of clearance between the bottom of the channel and the hull of a cargo ship loaded down with containers.

"There is a lot of speculation as to when the channel will be reopened," the Port said in a statement Friday. "The fact of the matter is we do not know. Please understand that we are working minute-by-minute with our federal, state and local partners to make that happen as quickly as possible."

The port is the ninth-busiest in the United States, according to Census data, and handled more than $80 billion in import and exports last year, the most in 20 years. It is also home to Royal Caribbean, Carnival and Norwegian cruise lines.

Directly, the port supports 15,300 jobs, while another 140,000 in the area are related to port activities. The jobs provide a combined $3.3 billion in personal income, according to a CBS News report.

"The most urgent priority is to open the Port of Baltimore because it is essential to the livelihood of people here in Baltimore, in Maryland, and the economies across our country and around the world," U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen said in a news conference Wednesday.

Maryland lawmakers are drafting emergency legislation for income replacement to assist thousands of Port of Baltimore workers impacted by the disruption.

Eight people, part of a construction crew filling potholes, were on the bridge at the time of the collapse. Two were rescued, two bodies have been recovered, and four remain missing.

So far, four of the victims have been identified:

Maynor Yassir Suazo Sandoval, 35, originally from Honduras
Miguel Luna, originally from El Salvador
Dorlian Castillo Cabrera, 26, originally from Guatemala
Jose Mynor Lopez, 35, originally from Guatemala

The bodies of Cabrera and Fuente were recovered from a submerged pickup truck. The search for bodies was paused Wednesday because divers can no longer operate around the mangled bridge debris that has encased submerged vehicles, officials said.

Maryland is receiving an initial $60 million in emergency funding from the federal government as the state works to clear the debris. The state sent a letter of request for relief to pay for mobilization, operations and debris recovery.

President Joe Biden said on Wednesday that he intends to push the federal government to pay for the entire reconstruction of the bridge, and pledged to work with Maryland leaders to provide as much support as possible.

"It is my intention that the federal government will pay for the entire cost of reconstructing that bridge, and I expect the Congress to support my effort," Biden said earlier, adding that he plans to visit Baltimore as soon as he can.

The $60 million estimate made by the state of Maryland for initial expenses is, at most, just 10% of the estimated cost for response to the disaster, CBS News learned following a Maryland Congressional delegation meeting.

The Maryland delegation talked about likely costs exceeding $1 billion and a "need for an emergency supplemental" aid package from Congress.

Buttigieg says he has no idea when Baltimore bridge debris might be cleared

https://nypost.com/2024/03/31/...ery-complex-process/

My friend lives and works in the DC area. Their family was on a spring break cruise when the bridge collapsed. The cruise ship had departed out of Port of Baltimore so the cruise ship had to return to a different port. 5 hour bus ride from Norfolk to their car in the parking lot in Baltimore.

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Buttigieg says he has no idea

No doubt.

At least he's being honest this time...

Cargo ship "dolly". CBS setting the high standard

Why does it take so long to clear the way? I bet China would have already had it cleared and a new bridge by the end of April.

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Cargo ship "dolly". CBS setting the high standard

I saw that. What an embarrassment!

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My friend lives and works in the DC area. Their family was on a spring break cruise when the bridge collapsed. The cruise ship had departed out of Port of Baltimore so the cruise ship had to return to a different port. 5 hour bus ride from Norfolk to their car in the parking lot in Baltimore.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks to Katrina the two bridges connecting our county were out. That was the least of our worries. They had a big celebration when new bridges were in place. Had a parade just like the 1950s all over again. Took two years total.

Good explainer on the latest complications with clearing the debris off the ship and opening the channel. Two forward compartments are flooded and ship is possibly resting on a natural gas line. More importably, a very good analogy of who is likely liable for the cost of this incident and where the legal cases will likely wind; you insurance types will love it

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Why does it take so long to clear the way? I bet China would have already had it cleared and a new bridge by the end of April.

Ha. A tofu dreg bridge. No thanks.

This event has showcased 3 idiots:
Baltimore's Mayor.
Maryland's Governor.
Buttigieg.
All three couldn't wait to hold "look at me" press conferences.

It's been long enough, where's the report on the cause?