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Sent to the desert? Maybe. Or maybe not. I spent my time in the Navy as a missile systems geek. Guidance systems, tracking systems, etc., so I have a bit of knowledge and hands-on experience. Do not overlook the possibility that the U.S. might have been screwing around with the Iranian missile guidance systems, causing them to go into the desert instead of their intended targets. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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That sure is a possibility too. I don't know anything about missile guidance systems......wasn't even aware that they could be hacked...….If that's true, too bad the U.S. didn't re-route them back to somewhere in Iran. I do believe Iran had to do something drastic to show their own people a show of force......once the horse left the barn, they could manipulate the story anyway they saw fit to appease their people. | |||
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Actually, in retrospect I don't think this could have worked out any better for 'both' sides. The Iranians get to claim a response against the 'Great Satan' for their folks, and we (the US) suffered absolutely nothing as a result of the strike, allowing Trump to simply brush it off and stand down. In the end, Soleimani is still dead, Iran's ability to execute terrorism is seriously impacted, and the US isn't paying any price for killing this piece of filth. Game, set, and match to the Trump administration. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Conspiracy theorist nonsense. Who is this clown? Having said that, I do believe that the Ukranian plane was shot down. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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That link is BS. Many of those "holes" are debris on the metal. Look at the shadows cast by the "holes" Granted there is a gash and maybe a hole or two but most of what they say are holes is just debris. Now I'm not saying Iran didn't shot the plane down. I think there is a high probability they did but let's not use conspiracy theorists style reports. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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A Grateful American |
I have a good bit of experience in the effects of antiaircraft weapons and the damage they can create and it varies a good bit based on the weapon used. I have also been involved in a lot of aircraft recovery, to include the documentation and diagramming of findings, from initial ingress and "as it's found" to any and everything's condition(s), to include the area and objects affected. Looking at a few pictures and what sketchy information that is filtered through the Iranians and trying to add speculation is silly. We either will get the facts, or we will not. What speculation and arguing will do, is get this thread shot down. And I hope that does not occur, as there is a lot of good information about all things concerning The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and how they are behind so much of the world's troubles, and my thoughts are that we will see a real confrontation between the US, a few of her allies and them bastages. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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What really surprises me is how quiet Canada is on this issue, considering so many passengers were Canadian. | |||
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Trudeau doesn’t wish to upset the Mullahs..
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Kiev airport is a major connecting hub for E.Europe in/out of Middle East and the 'Stans. Not sure how many of the wealthy had relatives that perished, if so, that just ratchets up the anger the mullahs and the IRGC will feel on top of all the other domestic angst. | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Wealthy is one thing, but I find myself wondering if any of the people on the airplane were directly related to any of the mullahs or anyone in the Revolutionary Guard. I wouldn't wish it on anybody, but given that they shot the plane down I'm all for any additional cracks or divisions that might appear in the regime. | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
Any speculation about 'shrapnel' holes from photos of that wreckage are bogus. I would seriously doubt the NTSB if they made such claims RIGHT AFTER the crash. And nobody making these claims is from the NTSB. . . Now, I am not ruling out a shoot-down, but at this point, any speculation is BS. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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| Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
Since this is Russian military equipment often staffed by their personnel, maybe a Russian crew shot down a Ukrainian plane? The irony. I suspect most of those Canadians were Iranian born with dual citizenship. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Semper Fi - 1775 |
My God I hate this woman. Ilhan Omar says she is 'stricken with PTSD' and feels queasy over Iran ___________________________ All it takes...is all you got. ____________________________ For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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Wait, what? |
^^^ I’d drop the C word here but the filter would scrub it. She can drop dead for all I care. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Sabonim |
She admits she is too fragile for the rigors of being a congressional representative. That’s good to know! Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride! ~Hunter S. Thompson | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
Local Philly talk radio guy sums this up perfectly today:
 https://twitter.com/ChrisStiga.../1215230387779244032 | |||
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| Official Space Nerd |
Iran is a small dog barking at the big dog. It is all bark, no bite. Heck, if Iran were REALLY serious, they would have attacked Al Udeid Airbase in Qatar. That place is so crowded they could not have missed. This is Statesmanship. Trump knows Iran was just making noise, and he responded perfectly. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Coin Sniper |
Point of order.... I was talking with a former fighter pilot who saw service in both Iraq and Afghanistan. He said that a target of opportunity in an active theater required no approval higher than theater command to engage. Clearly this guy was on that list and was in a theater of operation. Comments? Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Plowing straight ahead come what may |
Another “cluster” by the Iranian clowns  ...why was it even taking off during the Iranian ”retaliation” strike on US forces...prayers and thoughts for the victims and their families Frown...Ironic And sad that this doomed flight was headed to Ukraine  ******************************************************** "we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet | |||
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