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Freethinker
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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Do they put an aiming point marker on the perp’s chest?

Traditionally, yes.

Another “tradition,” if it can be believed, is that the rifle of one squad member would be loaded with a blank cartridge. The idea was that anyone could claim that he didn’t actually fire a killing shot. I first heard that from my father, but although I didn’t know better in my youth, it actually makes no sense because any experienced shooter would know whether he fired a live round. Plus whoever loaded the rifles would also know. I’ve never tried to determine whether there was any truth to the claim, but it comes up on occasion in discussions about firing squads.




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Its true, at least in Utah. Ronnie Lee Gardner 2010, 5 rifles and 4 bullet holes in the wood- Utah confirmed one of the .308s was loaded with a blank.

https://archive.sltrib.com/sto...ef=/news/ci_15325356



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Its true, at least in Utah.

Thanks. Interesting to know.

I could always see some validity for wartime military executions when the firing squad members may have had no choice in the duty.
“Jones, you’re on tomorrow’s firing squad for that Nazi officer.”
“Sarge, that wasn’t what I signed up for. I’d rather not.”
“Jones, you’re an MP, and that’s part of our duties. No arguments.”
Later: “Yeah, my rifle had the blank. I never killed anyone.”

And for example with the type of firing squad executions I’ve seen pictured in World War II, it would have been easy enough for someone to deliberately miss. With everyone shooting from the offhand (standing) position firing into a backstop wall used for the purpose, I believe that would have easily been possible. Even if it was obvious that someone missed, “Sarge, I was nervous and jerked the shot.”
There were many contemporary accounts of botched efforts that had to be finished with a shot to the head by the officer in charge: Poor marksmanship or deliberate misses?

For anyone who could refuse to participate though, it seems like a somewhat dubious fiction. Would one guy have a syringe filled with saline and another the syringe with the lethal drug?
But not my decision, and I wouldn’t be one pulling a trigger.




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with the technology of today, it would be easy enough to automate the rifle to fire based on some computer programming, eliminate the need for a person to have to fire it.

Doesn't even have to be high tech, mount the gun, aim, load, attach string to trigger and run it to a machine that will pull the trigger.
 
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They should contact the survivors of his attack and see if any of them want to be a shooter, I’d bet they’d have more than enough volunteers
 
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^^^just saw this news and came here to see if it had been posted yet.

Hmm live streaming his execution. Not sure its something I would want to watch myself but for those whom lives were effected from this monsters actions I would think that they would want to view it.
 
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POTUS is sending a fucking message to Jihad mother fuckers in the Middle East. Good!



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Wow! That’s going to get a lot of views around the world!
Awesome!


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^^^^
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I think the firing squad should use FN Five-seveN pistols.


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^^^^^
I was thinking that the other day.
 
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