I get the feeling sometimes that young folk don't understand reality. NYT is reporting 2 women have been mauled by Bison, each in a different park over the last 2 days. I think not a lot of thought goes into the consequences of actions.

Sorry for posting link to this rag, but its a source for my Bison claim.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/0...son-woman-gored.html

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Originally posted by corsair:
There seems to be some contradictory/incomplete information about how King went from airport, to the DMZ.

I've read that this guy was supposed to board a plane back to the US, however his military escort is unable to get past airport security check-point; so he gets past South Korean TSA, he's free to wander. Once thru, he allegedly 'joins a tour group' headed up to the DMZ, once there its peace-out, I'm free.

Seems he would have been handed over to an airport security team to assure he was under control until he boarded his flight. I'm curious as to why he wasn't escorted all the way to his destination.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Originally posted by corsair:
There seems to be some contradictory/incomplete information about how King went from airport, to the DMZ.

I've read that this guy was supposed to board a plane back to the US, however his military escort is unable to get past airport security check-point; so he gets past South Korean TSA, he's free to wander. Once thru, he allegedly 'joins a tour group' headed up to the DMZ, once there its peace-out, I'm free.

Seems he would have been handed over to an airport security team to assure he was under control until he boarded his flight. I'm curious as to why he wasn't escorted all the way to his destination.

I believe he was not in custody (they were considering charges and sending him back to Command for determination of charges and/or separation), that this was an "involuntary permanent change of station", so the escort could only go as far as the check point. the escort were only there to drop him off. What Private Snuffy Dumbass did at that point is on him. Charges he has now racked up:
Conduct Unbecoming
Missing Movement (transportation)
Lawful Order (Someone ordered him out of South Korea and back to Command)
Dereliction of Duty (the universal catch all)
Unauthorized Travel
Etc, Etc.

Of course Joe Bidet will give back 5-15 North Korean spies to get this "confused" young soldier back. We will hear endless comments from the dipsticks at the Pentagon, saying "we don't leave people behind (well except for Afghanistan). He will be this year's new "prisoner of conscience" replacing the doper from WNBA.

Sending in top men to rescue him

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Originally posted by HRK:
Sending in top men to rescue him

North side of Panmunjom, that's like driving into Wisconsin. <Yes, I realize oddly appropriate>

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Not to worry. I'm sure Sheila Jackson Lee will be all over this one too.

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I could've gone the rest of this f***ing YEAR without hearing THAT bitches name. Just sayin'...

erj_pilot now owes me a new keyboard.

This seems like a problem that found its own solution. Seems like he was a liability to the US military mission in South Korea due to his repeated poor behavior. He ultimately made his own decision to betray his oath and desert to the North Koreans. He's reaping the natural consequences of his actions as we speak...I say we just leave him there and call it good. They can keep him. We have enough idiots and don't want somebody like that back.

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Originally posted by 400m:
Expert308, can you name one mother that wouldn’t want her child back from that shithole? She didn’t do anything wrong.

You're absolutely right, most any mother would. I didn't mean to imply that she shouldn't. My point was (supposed to be) just that it gets to be a broken record after the first few hundred incidents. "He a good boy, he din do nuffin bad". Well in fact he did, or he wouldn't have been in a South Korean slammer and looking at more prison time in the first place. Maybe he wouldn't have if his mother had raised him a little different.

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Originally posted by Expert308:

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Originally posted by 400m:
Expert308, can you name one mother that wouldn’t want her child back from that shithole? She didn’t do anything wrong.

You're absolutely right, most any mother would. My point was (supposed to be) just that it gets to be a broken record after the first few hundred incidents. "He a good boy, he din do nuffin bad". Well in fact he did, or he wouldn't have been in a South Korean slammer and looking at more prison time in the first place. Maybe he wouldn't have if his mother had raised him a little different.

Dumbass proven by the fact that the US Military got him out of a SK prison, and were getting him out of the country back home, and he ran to KJU

Will this be Biden's Bowe Bergdahl moment? i.e. we spare no expense to get back a worthless private who defected to the enemy?

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Originally posted by corsair:
There seems to be some contradictory/incomplete information about how King went from airport, to the DMZ.

I've read that this guy was supposed to board a plane back to the US, however his military escort is unable to get past airport security check-point; so he gets past South Korean TSA, he's free to wander. Once thru, he allegedly 'joins a tour group' headed up to the DMZ, once there its peace-out, I'm free.

Seems he would have been handed over to an airport security team to assure he was under control until he boarded his flight. I'm curious as to why he wasn't escorted all the way to his destination.

There is a TON of .mil flights out of that (South Korea) country heading to the US, why not toss him on there with his escorts?

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
There is a TON of .mil flights out of that (South Korea) country heading to the US, why not toss him on there with his escorts?

A couple of phases that I learned when working in England in the middle of college come to mind and seem to fit the current administration: “couldn’t organize a piss-up in a brewery” and “couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse”.

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Originally posted by cas:Stamp his discharge papers and mail them to the north Koreans.

Best plan so far.

I agree with everyone here but why would anyone in charge of this guy put him anywhere near the border? I cant believe someone trusted this guy.

He should have been on KP or something along those lines.

^^^He was put at the airport and his destination was out of the country. He went to the border all on his own!

Perhaps you should have read a bit more more than the title of the thread...

To be fair, Seoul is probably closer to the NK Border than is comfortable for most people.

This guy clearly has a healthy dose of BDD, Bad Decision Disease.

However, and some of you have been waiting for this one, his family claims this wasn't his fault as he was grieving the loss of his cousin and was acting unlike himself:

The 23-year-old Army private who intentionally crossed into North Korea on Tuesday had been grieving the loss of his young cousin, struggling with the distance from home and acting unlike himself when he was previously arrested in South Korea, where he was stationed, his family said Wednesday.

His family expressed deep concern Wednesday for Pvt. 2nd Class Travis King, who ran at top speed from a tour group visiting the Joint Security Area in the truce village known as Panmunjom, crossed the border Tuesday and ended up in North Korea’s custody.

“It’s out of his character,” King’s uncle Myron Gates said. “I’ve never seen him get down like that, ever. Something’s going on. This is not his personality.”

In an interview Wednesday at their home in Kenosha, Wisconsin, Myron Gates and King’s grandfather Carl Gates described the young soldier as a Bible reader who enjoyed quiet time alone.

<SNIP well known facts>

But another uncle, Carl Gates, said that King, who graduated from Park High School in Racine in 2020, had been in a negative state of mind since his cousin died and that he acted out as a result. The cousin, 6-year-old King’Nazir Gates, who had a rare and untreatable genetic disorder, died in February, Carl Gates said.

“He’s still grieving, and that had a lot to do with what he did,” King’s uncle said.

Carl Gates said he was a father figure to King and one of the last people to speak to him before he illegally crossed the border. He declined to fully comment on his nephew’s actions until King’s mother discusses the situation, but he said King struggled with being so far from home.

“Travis has got a lot going on in his mind, and we’re worried about him,” he added. “Now we don’t know where he is, we don’t know what they’re doing to him, and we might not ever see him again.”

ing’s mother, Claudia Gates, did not respond to requests for comment. When she was approached outside her home in Racine on Wednesday, she told WISN-TV of Milwaukee that her utmost concern is getting her son home.

“I just want my son back. Get my son home. Get my son home and pray that he comes back,” she said.

That could take some time.

https://www.aol.com/news/travi...young-085112318.html

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The reasons for his foray into North Korea ae unclear. Amateur psychology abounds with his relatives and the media. We will probably never know his motivation. I doubt he was a choir boy given his past history.

It's reported that he stated that he did not wish to go back to the United States, ever. One does not need to be a psychologist to figure out the obvious.