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If she fails to show on Thursday or withdraws prior to, Grassley needs to be ready to take this to a vote



Bingo. And if Collins is still unsure Thursday after a no-show, she wasn't planning on voting "yes" anyway.
 
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this is positive.

Sen. Bob Corker says GOP senators were told at lunch to expect to be in DC this weekend to process Kavanaugh nomination quickly.


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Christine Ford in an April 2017 anti-Trump Science March in Los Angeles.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...p-march-in-la-video/





interesting sign she has

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Bingo. And if Collins is still unsure Thursday after a no-show, she wasn't planning on voting "yes" anyway.

I think she was planning on sticking her finger in the wind after the hearing and determining which way the wind was blowing. She plans on voting with the winning side, whichever side that may be. Collins will likely be "yes" b/c
Jeff Flake now seems to be signalling a yes vote through intermediaries.

The Senate Judiciary Committee could reportedly vote on Judge Brett Kavanuagh's confirmation to the Supreme Court as early as this weekend.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...his-weekend-n2522490



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As long as we're sitting around imagining what Collins is thinking...

Maybe she's trying to cut a deal in exchange for her vote. Some kind of federal assistance with health care or health insurance for Maine would be just the ticket for her politically, and the same thing for Alaska might be enough to bring Murkowski along.

Maybe she's worried that as soon as she singles herself out by committing to vote to confirm Kavanaugh the volume of harrassment, emails, office invasions and phone calls she's been dealing with will get even worse.

Maybe she's worried that if she singles herself out by committing to vote to confirm Kavanaugh some loon will try to physically attack her, her family or her staff.

Maybe she's worried that some women will think she sold them out, so she wants to vote "yes" at the last minute in order to be able to claim she "thought about it long and hard" before making a decision.

Maybe she's waiting for Flake and/or Murkowski to commit so that she's got political cover ("Kavanaugh was going to get confirmed anyway") for voting to confirm his nomination.

We can imagine all kinds of alternative motives and scenarios. But at this point it is well within the realm of the possible that she herself doesn't quite know what she's going to do or how she's going to play her cards between now and the end of the Senate vote on confirmation.
 
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Jimmy Kimmel? I got no use for this guy.


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You should recall that when this current crop was elected, it wasn’t that way for the Court. It was only in the Gorsuch confirmation that the “Reid Rule” fka nuclear option, was invoked for Supreme Court.

Clarence Thomas was confirmed by a narrow majority of 52 to 48 on October 15, 1991.


There were at least 60 votes on the cloture motion to end debate.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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As long as we're sitting around imagining what Collins is thinking...

Maybe she's trying to cut a deal in exchange for her vote. Some kind of federal assistance with health care or health insurance for Maine would be just the ticket for her politically, and the same thing for Alaska might be enough to bring Murkowski along.

Maybe she's worried that as soon as she singles herself out by committing to vote to confirm Kavanaugh the volume of harrassment, emails, office invasions and phone calls she's been dealing with will get even worse.

Maybe she's worried that if she singles herself out by committing to vote to confirm Kavanaugh some loon will try to physically attack her, her family or her staff.

Maybe she's worried that some women will think she sold them out, so she wants to vote "yes" at the last minute in order to be able to claim she "thought about it long and hard" before making a decision.

Maybe she's waiting for Flake and/or Murkowski to commit so that she's got political cover ("Kavanaugh was going to get confirmed anyway") for voting to confirm his nomination.

We can imagine all kinds of alternative motives and scenarios. But at this point it is well within the realm of the possible that she herself doesn't quite know what she's going to do or how she's going to play her cards between now and the end of the Senate vote on confirmation.
'Or', maybe she's just a cowardly RINO POS that can barely stand vertical without help, and one who still doesn't grasp the most basic of realities, that you can not concede any ground to leftists in the hope they will stop attacking. Weaknes begets further aggression.

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Assuming she does testify, will she be put under oath? I’ve never seen that confirmed either way.


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Christine Ford in an April 2017 anti-Trump Science March in Los Angeles.


How can this be. We have been told "she does not have a political bone in her body?"


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GOP lawmaker: Second Kavanaugh accuser refusing to talk to Congress

https://www.washingtonexaminer...-to-talk-to-congress

Deborah Ramirez, a Yale University classmate of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, is refusing to talk to the Senate Judiciary Committee about her accusation against Kavanaugh, a GOP lawmaker said Tuesday.

Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., who sits on the committee, said a lawyer for Ramirez told committee staff she would not speak to them about her allegation that Kavanaugh flashed his naked groin in her face during an alcohol-laden party their freshman year. Ramirez made the accusation in a blockbuster Sunday night New Yorker story.

“Our counsel repeatedly tried to reach him,” Kennedy said of Ramirez's lawyer. “They finally did reach him, and he said we are not issuing a statement. He said if you want our statement, read the New Yorker.”

Lawmakers, including Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, a key swing vote, have said they want to hear from Ramirez about her accusation. But talking to committee staff is the first step to testifying in the committee.

Democrats want the FBI to probe the matter, and Ramirez said she also supported an FBI investigation.

Republicans said they don’t believe one is necessary and point to gaps in her story and lack of first-hand witnesses.
 
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You should recall that when this current crop was elected, it wasn’t that way for the Court. It was only in the Gorsuch confirmation that the “Reid Rule” fka nuclear option, was invoked for Supreme Court.

Clarence Thomas was confirmed by a narrow majority of 52 to 48 on October 15, 1991.


There were at least 60 votes on the cloture motion to end debate.


Because there was no cloture vote required to end debate on the floor, Thomas was granted a straight up-or-down vote on the Senate floor, and was confirmed 52–48.

It’s a misconception that there were 60 votes required to confirm a Supreme Court Justice; the 60 votes were needed to invoke cloture and end debate, if others wished to keep the floor open. In the Thomas confirmation, there was no such effort - he went straight from committee to the floor without the need for a cloture vote.

Here are the final votes for the members of the court prior to Gorsuch. Note Alito and Thomas are the two sitting justices who did not receive 60 votes for confirmation.

Elena Kagan: 63 to 37 (2010)
Sonia Sotomayor: 68 to 31 (2009)
Samuel A. Alito Jr.: 58 to 42 (2006)
John G. Roberts Jr.: 78 to 22 (2005)
Stephen G. Breyer: 87 to 9 (1994)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg: 96 to 3 (1993)
Clarence Thomas: 52 to 48 (1991)
Anthony M. Kennedy: 97 to 0 (1988)



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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Go chuck !



 
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About time Chucky found his balls.
 
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Ah, yes. "...false statements made to the press are not subject to criminal penalty, but false statements to Congress are." If the Dems would like to play poker, the distinguished gentleman from Iowa seems disposed to play poker.
 
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Again with only 51 republican in the senate and at least 3 of them not supposedly not committed yet I can't be too critical of what Check Grassley did


Grassley has made it all much worse. And it will be worse yet if he allows it to drag on even further.

Grassley doesn’t have a really strong hand of cards, but he’s played them pretty well IMO. He’s accommodated enough of Ford’s demands that Collins et al can feel safe enough to support Judge Kavanagh, but he’s held firm on the critical issues: no more delay; Ford goes first; a female lawyer grills Ford. If Ford fails to show, the Kavanaugh confirmation proceeds.



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Assuming she does testify, will she be put under oath? I’ve never seen that confirmed either way.


She'll be under oath. That's not in question.


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Sounds like the end game is near. If the dems know how the votes are going to fall and they don't have enough to block look for something else to surface late Wednesday.
I'm still betting someone is going to come forward to say they had sex with Kavanaugh in high school or shortly after going against his he was a virgin claim.
Because he's a liar too ya know! Roll Eyes


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^^ You mean they're going to resurrect the argument over what sex is? BWAAHAHAHAHAHA!! I would love to see that!
 
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You should recall that when this current crop was elected, it wasn’t that way for the Court. It was only in the Gorsuch confirmation that the “Reid Rule” fka nuclear option, was invoked for Supreme Court.

Clarence Thomas was confirmed by a narrow majority of 52 to 48 on October 15, 1991.


There were at least 60 votes on the cloture motion to end debate.


Because there was no cloture vote required to end debate on the floor, Thomas was granted a straight up-or-down vote on the Senate floor, and was confirmed 52–48.

It’s a misconception that there were 60 votes required to confirm a Supreme Court Justice; the 60 votes were needed to invoke cloture and end debate, if others wished to keep the floor open. In the Thomas confirmation, there was no such effort - he went straight from committee to the floor without the need for a cloture vote.

Here are the final votes for the members of the court prior to Gorsuch. Note Alito and Thomas are the two sitting justices who did not receive 60 votes for confirmation.

Elena Kagan: 63 to 37 (2010)
Sonia Sotomayor: 68 to 31 (2009)
Samuel A. Alito Jr.: 58 to 42 (2006)
John G. Roberts Jr.: 78 to 22 (2005)
Stephen G. Breyer: 87 to 9 (1994)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg: 96 to 3 (1993)
Clarence Thomas: 52 to 48 (1991)
Anthony M. Kennedy: 97 to 0 (1988)


The rules required a motion to end debate which took 60 votes. It was the so-called “nuclear option” that ended this Rule for Supreme Court nominations.

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1. The President usually will consult with Senators before announcing a nomination.

2. When the President nominates a candidate, the nomination is sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee for consideration.

3. The Senate Judiciary Committee holds a hearing on the nominee. The Committee usually takes a month to collect and receive all necessary records, from the FBI and other sources, about the nominee and for the nominee to be prepared for the hearings.

4. During the hearings, witnesses, both supporting and opposing the nomination, present their views. Senators question the nominee on his or her qualifications, judgment, and philosophy.

5. The Judiciary Committee then votes on the nomination and sends its recommendation (that it be confirmed, that it be rejected, or with no recommendation) to the full Senate.

6. The full Senate debates the nomination.

7. The Senate rules used to allow unlimited debate (a practice known as filibustering) and to end the debate, it required the votes of 3/5 of the Senate or 60 senators (known as the cloture vote). In April 2017, the Senate changed this rule and lowered the required votes to 51 to end debate on Supreme Court nominations (this is commonly known as "the nuclear option").

8. When the debate ends, the Senate votes on the nomination. A simple majority of the Senators present and voting is required for the judicial nominee to be confirmed. If there is a tie, the Vice President who also presides over the Senate casts the deciding vote.
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I don’t know about not having a motion in the Thomas process. There may be some in the weeds research needed.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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