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| wishing we were congress |
The hearings & interviews were over. It was time to vote. And Feinstein pulls this. I hope the paybacks are worthy of the dirty tricks. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Of course she has no idea where it happened... | |||
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| Crusty old curmudgeon  |
There doesn't need to be a rabbit. She claims she doesn't know where or when this so called evil deed took place. She didn't report it to the police, so no police report exists. There isn't a prosecutor in the country that would put this before a jury. That's all the committee needs to do, is report what is known. Nothing, that's what is known. Make a public statement to that affect and be done with it. Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
There may be a little more to it than that. Give her every opportunity to speak on Monday. Whether she does or she doesn't, women in this country will form judgements about her. Don't let her speak, and women in this country will form judgements about the Republicans. Will all this back and forth and the inaccessibility of relevant evidence (FBI investigation? of what?), the best bet is to let women form judgements about her rather than letting her be this amorphous and undefined person claiming something happened. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
Now they are going after Shelley Moore Capito, R-WV, who is a graduate of the accuser’s girls school, to stand with the sister and vote no. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Can you imagine a guy so clean, that the entirety of the dirtbags machine could only dig up a very shady gal to say he maybe did something when he was 17??? Any human with even two brain cells that occasionally pass each other in the night ought to be able to smell this rat. NRA Life Member "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." Teddy Roosevelt | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
Mitch has been very quiet on this. Now I am not a fan but he was a stalwart with Gorsuch. I wonder if he is working things behind the scenes, prepping an unorthodox vote, etc. I imagine he would be. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell expressed confidence on Thursday that Kavanaugh will ultimately be confirmed. McConnell responded affirmatively when asked if he had confidence that Kavanaugh would be confirmed, telling CNN, "Oh yeah." https://us.cnn.com/2018/09/20/...testimony/index.html He's a swamp donkey but he's our swamp donkey. | |||
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Armed and Gregarious |
Here is the only article I've seen that points out the problem with wanting an investigation: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/19...-jennings/index.html . . . I asked retired FBI agent and CNN Contributor James Gagliano how the bureau might tackle an investigation like this. He told me: "She doesn't know what party and she isn't sure about the time period. If she's not sure when and where, and who was there, then it makes it really difficult to determine the veracity of these allegations." Which means we are left with the stories of three people Ford says were in the room, and two of them say this allegation is false and the event described did not happen. . . Since this story broke I've asked myself the same question. How do you investigate this further? If we assume the reporting of this is accurate, there does not seem to be any way to investigate this. The accuser can't provide details that would allow investigators to corroborate or refute the accusation. There is no known date/time of the alleged incident. There is no known location for the alleged incident. The only two people whom the accuser can recall being present have denied the allegation, and there are no other known witnesses. Therefore, there are no viable leads. Setting political agendas aside, how does an objective investigator go about working the case, with no viable leads? Possibly a re-interview of the three people involved could yield new information, but at this point it seems unlikely. It would benefit everyone to be able to definitively prove or disprove the allegation, but at this point I don't see how it could be done, unless there is additional evidence out there that has not been reported. ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Two things about this story don’t add up to me. First, there was likely not one party. It seems far more likely that in these kids hs days there were quite a few such parties. Secondly, at least in my day, females did not attend such parties by themselves. There was always two or more females, or none at all. The females watched each others backs, always within audible or visual range unless one had indicated they were going off for private voluntary activity. It stikes me as more than odd that Ford doesn’t remember any female with her, or how she returned home. All this suggests that this story is an arrangement of experiences, a little this, not too much that, no detail to be tripped up over. They may have overshot this a little naming two males who say no such thing happened. I think it is concocted for the purpose to preventing Kavanaugh’s confirmation. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Well now, there's the understatement of the thread.  ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan "Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
^^^^^ I suspect it was set up by the lawyer. She and her mother (Gloria Allred) are some of the sleaziest ones around. (I realize you are/were a lawyer, and I don't associate you with the sleazebags.) ETA: this was in response to JALLEN's post a few above it. flashguyThis message has been edited. Last edited by: flashguy, Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Info Guru |
I reiterate my position from 2 weeks ago. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
FORMER SCALIA LAW CLERK Drops Pictures and Evidence That Blows Christine Ford’s Case Wide Open "Is this a case of mistaken identity? Accuser Christine Blasey Ford is waging a war on Trump’s SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh with decades-old, unsubstantiated claims of sexual assault in an effort to derail his confirmation to the Supreme Court. Judge Kavanaugh has categorically denied the allegations and even told Senator Orin Hatch he wasn’t at the party in question. Ed Whelan, Justice Scalia’s former law clerk and president of conservative think tank the Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC), came out in defense of Brett Kavanaugh and said compelling evidence will come out next week exonerating Kavanaugh. On Thursday afternoon, Ed Whelan started dropping pictures and evidence that may blow Christine Ford’s case wide open." | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
"Mistaken identity"? I don't think so. Everything points to the commies' desperate and deliberate attempt to destroy the reputation of a squeaky clean man and derail this nomination. Like I said before, these maggots will sling all kinds of shit on the wall hoping something will stick. Ain't happening. Q | |||
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| Mired in the Fog of Lucidity |
Now the left will enthusiastically scream that there's no way it could be Chris Garrett and that it's all a witch hunt by the Republicans. Just pointing out the typical double standard that they live by. Never mind that they're ready to convict Kavanaugh with more flimsy evidence. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
There are details here not shown in the letter to Feinstein, the text of which I posted in this thread several days ago. Where can we authenticate these details? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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goodheart |
Ed Whelan's twitter feed _________________________ “ What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”— Lord Melbourne | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
I don't know. Must be stuff she said in the WAPO article? | |||
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