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Calling all Virginia members. Movement to declare cities/counties in VA second amendment sanctuary cities is gaining momentum. Has your city voted? Login/Join 
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He said way more than he had to. He could've simply said he was partially disabled and trying to determine if it was going to be safe to go with how many people were expected to be there. "Double hip replacement and walking with a cane. I wanted to get an idea how long I was going to have to be on my feet with all the added security measures and figure out if I could get by with a walker. I know other older people with similar issues and concerns." Simple.


Never tell police a lie.

You can avoid doing so by never telling them anything.

Why not lie? Especially if they can lie to you with impunity?

Because it casts doubt on your character. If you tell them a lie and they can prove it was a lie (in your example, saying you had hip replacement surgery when you did not), they can use that as evidence of intent to deceive, etc.

You are much better off remaining silent.





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
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Posts: 29831 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: May 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Not to be too emotional or theatrical, but this 'precautionary investigation' is scary stuff.

One has to admit - this is a SIGNIFICANT move towards North Korea/China-type people control.

The dude didn't have any weapons at the Capitol, didn't make any 'online' threats, or in person threats of any reasonable kind whatsoever...yet two decently ranking LEOs travel 100+ miles to interrogate him? This isn't The Land of the Free (or the Home of the Brave) anymore, is it?
 
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I'm not buying it. Sorry. He was scoping it out 10 plus days ago? Like well before the state of emergency? Whatever.



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Yeah, something stinks...

Unfortunately the freaks, geeks, and weirdos come out of the woodwork for things like this...
 
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
He said way more than he had to. He could've simply said he was partially disabled and trying to determine if it was going to be safe to go with how many people were expected to be there. "Double hip replacement and walking with a cane. I wanted to get an idea how long I was going to have to be on my feet with all the added security measures and figure out if I could get by with a walker. I know other older people with similar issues and concerns." Simple.


Never tell police a lie.

You can avoid doing so by never telling them anything.

Why not lie? Especially if they can lie to you with impunity?

Because it casts doubt on your character. If you tell them a lie and they can prove it was a lie (in your example, saying you had hip replacement surgery when you did not), they can use that as evidence of intent to deceive, etc.

You are much better off remaining silent.


How are those, being legitimate concerns, a lie?

I was raised by a municipal cop and a fed. I know far better than to ever lie to the police. I know if I was going to a rally that big and had mobility problems, I'd probably want to take a look around first also for the reasons I posted.

I don't have to tell the police I'd be worried about it turning into a shit-show as dramatically as he did. The idea of getting around safely when you can't get around quickly and easily at all should be easy to grasp for anyone.


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Smart people don’t engage in lying to the police, it’s far easier to ask to see a warrant and if none is produced to tell them, “On you way then” and close the door.



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This is some KGB/secret police stuff, Fox and others should pick this up and run it. This is how the Democrats will run the country given the chance.use the tools of intelligence against the American people, lie about the facts, and accuse innocents.WTF has happened to my country ?


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How are those, being legitimate concerns, a lie?

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You misunderstood my use of the statement about hip replacements.

I did not state the man in the video did not have replacement surgery.

I was saying if you haven't had such surgery, don't say you did.





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018

 
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I follow. I don't know where you got that I said it applied to anyone else but him.

Yeah. Don't lie to the police. Say no more than you absolutely have to, if even that.


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Newsflash - don't lie to the police.

Next.
 
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For all that will be down there, let’s pray nothing stupid happens and we all stay safe.




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Probably been said before, but watch out for troublemakers (for example, Antifa) dressed in conservative gear (MAGA hats, etc.) who will cause trouble and it will be blamed on regular conservatives.
 
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Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018

 
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I offered up prayers in church today for all of the patriots attending the events in Virginia. We have a very conservative group in our church and everyone is hoping that nothing bad happens.



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The warrior whispers back, 'I AM THE STORM."


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yup...while I like his speach

"Do you have a warrant?"

"no"

"I bid you good day"

and I would call the sheriffs dept to let them know
 
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I'm laying out my clothing and provisions for tomorrow. It will be just above freezing. No rain is forecast, but standing in dry, cold weather for hours requires some forethought. Layers of clothing (nothing provocative), plenty of water, and wool socks and comfortable shoes.

My buddy and I will not be going into the killing field. That may make it tough to show our support, but we are going nevertheless. Heard on the news today that at least one state rep was going to be cowering in a "safe place." Ball-less wonder.

Several of my friends have expressed concern for me, offered prayers and support. I am reminded of the line, "If not me, then who?" The Virginia Militia was key in many of the Revolutionary War battles. To that end, I am acquiring my Virginia Militia dog tags.




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Posts: 2857 | Location: Peoples Republic of North Virginia | Registered: December 04, 2015Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Wait just a cotton-pickin' minute -

60% of my 10-gun (semi-auto hand gun) collection is centered (e.g., designed) around 15+ round magazines. Who wants a custom Beretta limited to just 10-rounds of 9mm? A Sig X5? Custom M&P (don't laugh)? My regular-joe .44 Desert Eagle weighs 63oz and is thus an "assault" weapon...??

My ARs are out. Heck, my $1,300+ Volquartsen (.22lr) target has a threaded comp. That's an "assault" .22lr don't you know?

Point being, I have ~$8,000 (realistic street value) of guns that will be rendered moot (or illegal assault-type) - others here like PGT have WAY, WAY more money tied up in this than I do. Is Virginia going to pay us akin to "immanent domain?" If so, I could use the funds to buy several .44mag or 500 S&W revolvers (under 50oz, of course - wouldn't want those to be 'assault' guns).
 
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Will be watching for reports from SF members attending the event... stand tall, stay safe, and godspeed.
 
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I can't be with you, but I leave you Patriots with this.

We are with you. From NC, we are with you.

And as Rick Monday did...you are all saving the US Flag and what it stands for.

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