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Shall Not Be Infringed |
The Republican Party has but ONE MORE CHANCE, and that's the 2024 Election! If they don't fix this shit, fight for what's right and/or WIN so they can fix it while they hold the White House AND the Legislature, it's over and they're done! The electorate will become unglued and things will get ugly otherwise... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
You and I may be giving them ONE MORE CHANCE ... but I'm afraid a lot of people have already given up on voting at all. If it's rigged, why participate? I will vote... but who knows how many won't? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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In Odin we trust |
Exactly this. I'm not done yet, but I certainly understand the sentiment if someone else is. There is a limit before good people throw up their hands and say "fuckit", and walk away. Who is John Galt? _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^Once 'We the People' throw in the towel, we're headed to 'Fuck-it Mode' territory, and that's NOT a good thing! With VERY Few exceptions, I'm for 'primarying' nearly all Republicans at this point. Many are seemingly NOT on OUR side, and are aligned with the Leftist Democrats against our country! We need an America First party that will 'Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States'! If we can't effect a change in leadership and accomplish that by fixing the Republican Party, then we need a new party! We need to do whatever it takes to accomplish that goal... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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This Space for Rent |
I k ow a couple people that are checking out of voting, or voting for the third party candidate. I keep saying it’s a wasted dove and one for the D, but they don’t care. They are fed up with both parties. It gives the feeling that the whole system needs to crash and get rebuilt. We will never know world peace, until three people can simultaneously look each other straight in the eye Liberals are like pussycats and Twitter is Trump's laser pointer to keep them busy while he takes care of business - Rey HRH. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
So the “new normal” for elections is this: 1. Conduct a rigged election featuring fraud that exceeds the Democrat margin of “victory.” 2. Allow the opposition to Democrats to participate in a Kangaroo Court trial where the outcome has already been decided in favor of Democrats before the trial begins. It was obvious that nothing presented during the trial was going to change the outcome of the election. A stolen election stays stolen. 3. Once “victory” has been claimed in the court to cement the “victory” in the election that was stolen, be sure to pile on by having the Republican who challenged the election be sanctioned with fees/fines/penalties. I'm not confident that 'primarying' nearly all Republicans or forming a new "America First" party will change anything. It may just make it easier for the cheaters. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
If voting for Republicans no longer accomplishes what we want, then voting against them is the only logical solution. If ultimately that means there's an 'America First Party', then the Republicans are guaranteed to be in the minority, and they're either 'WITH us or AGAINST us'! Therefore they'll have to choose to caucus with us (FOR America), or with the Democrats (AGAINST America). In order to accomplish this you'd need to peel away about 50% of the Republicans, at which point they, the GOP would no longer be able to effectively control the Conservative agenda. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
^^^ Yes, I understand, the 'logical solution'... but how does that fix our broken election system? How does that stop the cheating? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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7.62mm Crusader |
Anyone feel a Convention of States would get us back to a trusted government? Can the Legislatures be trusted or would that open up a can of worms? | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
More and more... I'm in favor of the idea. I don't think the 16th and 17th amendments were ratified legally, and I think the Federal Reserve Act was a terrible idea. Also, I think there should be term limits on Congress and there should be a balanced budget. None of those things will happen without a Convention of States because all of those expanded the power of the Feds over the States. They won't give that power back to the people. We will have to take it back. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
I think right now, part of the problem is that the Republican Party IS part of the problem! Neuter them and take control, and hope the Democrats don't destroy the country before you can elect a majority! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
The Republicans are already pretty much self-neutered. How do you 'take control'? That sounds easier said than done. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
California, New York, Massachusetts, Oregon (and others)- these places are all about reason and compromise, aren't they? ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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7.62mm Crusader |
They do indeed suck and I would not want them in any way to make changes to 2A. Hands to F off. That's why I asked could they be trusted? | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
A convention of states would show very clearly that we are actually two countries now. | |||
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Peripheral Visionary |
Always a risk, but may be one of the only ways forward if we hope to keep this country. It would need to be very limited in scope. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
And it would be nice if we could divide and go our separate ways... but there's no Mason-Dixon line between the two sides today. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
Cityfolk v. country folk "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
^^^ That's my point. You can't really divide out the cities and tell them they are on their own. But if you could... they would starve. Furthermore, the idea of an amicable "national divorce" is a fantasy. The other side wants you to pay for their "free shit"... and won't let you out of the deal. The election fraud shows they don't even want you to have a say in the matter. In a way, they are making slaves out of half of us. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Nah. Right folks v. Wrong folks. Q | |||
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