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Damn it. That "teacher" is sick in the head and needs to be put far away from kids and anyone he he can influence. No person right in the head could justify this.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. And this is a perfect opportunity to see who a person really is......fucking monster.


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Maybe he was technically not guilty but he's one sick fuck.

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I'm not making excuses for this teacher. But you have to understand the perspective of the rural rancher toward livestock. Animal life becomes pretty cheap. From what I read over the several months since this event, the puppy was incurable and close to death. The snapping turtle would have eaten the puppy had it found it in the wild. That is how it is seen by rancher types with livestock.

What we see here is two cultures colliding. Gentrified types who see many species as pets and anthropomorphize them and ranchers types who see things a little more practically. I am more gentrified and would not have done what the teacher did. It turns my stomach. But I would not process my own meat either. Most of Idaho is rural rancher culture.


With you in principle, but unless things have changed in Idaho since my last visit: There aren't vast herds of Food Puppies being raised as livestock. Asshole fed a puppy to a reptile for an audience.
 
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It's messed up, legal or not. WTF is wrong with people...
 
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You know the watch tv programs like Criminal Minds where a group of sociopaths and psychopaths get together to do horrendous things and you think stuff like that can't happen......and then you read something like this. I have to wonder about the sick mind of the teacher who did this and what about the four students who watched it.
 
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It's messed up, legal or not. WTF is wrong with people...


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Internet said throw it in the street and they would come and get it.

Seemed cold for a baby so we drove the corpse out to the woods and laid it up against a tree in a quiet area figuring nature would do what it does.

We are no saints, but we know all things deserve respect when they die. It's literally the last damed thing this world will give them.


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I'm not making excuses for this teacher. But you have to understand the perspective of the rural rancher toward livestock. Animal life becomes pretty cheap. From what I read over the several months since this event, the puppy was incurable and close to death. The snapping turtle would have eaten the puppy had it found it in the wild. That is how it is seen by rancher types with livestock.

What we see here is two cultures colliding. Gentrified types who see many species as pets and anthropomorphize them and ranchers types who see things a little more practically. I am more gentrified and would not have done what the teacher did. It turns my stomach. But I would not process my own meat either. Most of Idaho is rural rancher culture.


I can understand this. He had a dog that needed to be put down, and another animal that needs to eat. Saves buying food for a day for the turtle and saves the cost of euthanasia and the effort of burial.

In reality it is the most efficient way to deal with the sick animal. Not sure I would ever do anything like that, but it is a proper use of resources.



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Exactly. Trying to justify what this guy did because the dog was going to die anyhow is ridiculous.
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From what I read over the several months since this event, the puppy was incurable and close to death.


Then have a Vet put the poor little thing to a restful sleep.


I wasn't justifying anything.



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I have been involved in hundreds of animal cruelty cases and it is very difficult to get a guilty verdict on State animal cruelty charges. It is almost always better to go with county or city charges. Due to pressure from animal rights groups and the general public many departments tend to overcharge in these cases.


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Abhorrent.

The wife is a vet and a farm kid. She cannot wrap her head around what makes this ok. If the puppy was going to die, it should have been done the right way.


Hell yes. Euthanize the puppy, instead of some sick teaching moment. That was a terribly wrong court decision.


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I have been involved in hundreds of animal cruelty cases and it is very difficult to get a guilty verdict on State animal cruelty charges. It is almost always better to go with county or city charges. Due to pressure from animal rights groups and the general public many departments tend to overcharge in these cases.


I have had success in some state cases but it usually involved some unknown person Wink calling the APA and Humane Society about the case and the court being packed with their members. You would be surprised about the number of judges whose wives are on the boards of APA and Humane Society.
 
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If rancher and country folk think is okay then they need to understand that we city folk have animals in our lives and they are part of our family. If my kid had been a witness to this then i would have been happy to stand there and wait for the cops to cuff me after i beat the smile of that assholes face. We pay these fuckers to teach not traumatize.
 
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I would like to show that teacher something about survival of the fittest and the food chain. I would stomp his ass everyday. What a sadist. He is seriously deranged.
 
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I'm not making excuses for this teacher. But you have to understand the perspective of the rural rancher toward livestock. Animal life becomes pretty cheap. From what I read over the several months since this event, the puppy was incurable and close to death. The snapping turtle would have eaten the puppy had it found it in the wild. That is how it is seen by rancher types with livestock.

What we see here is two cultures colliding. Gentrified types who see many species as pets and anthropomorphize them and ranchers types who see things a little more practically. I am more gentrified and would not have done what the teacher did. It turns my stomach. But I would not process my own meat either. Most of Idaho is rural rancher culture.
Sorry, but no. I spent a majority of my younger years on my grandparents farm. There were a couple occasions where an animal was sick or injured requiring too much vet care to be cost effective, and my grandfather simply put it down with a shot to the skull. Never would my grandfather (or anyone else I know) support or defend someone essentially torturing an animal to death, which is what happened here. This 'man' is a sick POS and should reap the whirlwind for his indefensible behavior.


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If the teacher fed a healthy mouse to a snake, no one would find it wrong.

But I don't think puppies are a natural diet for snapping turtles.

Doesn't the puppy being sick carry a risk that the turtle will now be sick from what the puppy had?



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I have been involved in hundreds of animal cruelty cases and it is very difficult to get a guilty verdict on State animal cruelty charges. It is almost always better to go with county or city charges. Due to pressure from animal rights groups and the general public many departments tend to overcharge in these cases.
The only time I've ever seen someone actually get their due in an animal cruelty case was when this POS who was renting a house in a neighborhood we used to live in, kicked and injured another homeowner's dog. The homeowner visited said POS and beat the ever loving hell out of him. To this day I don't know how he got away with it, but since everyone in the neighborhood knew the renter was a piece of garbage, he found zero sympathy from anyone. Maybe that's the ultimate solution...a bit of vigilante justice to help the sick morons realize where the line is they can't step over without enduring substantial pain and suffering.


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Soooooo...no sign of PETA, eh? Just as I thought...a hypocritical lot, those people are.



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Why would you agree with the verdict or try to justify it in any way. The teacher is a sicko and making any animal suffer more than it has to is not a teaching tool. I wish the teacher would have been punished harshly.

I would do some kind of scan of his backyard, you might find some bodies there.


Just another sick asshole. He could have waited until the puppy died if it was dying. Why feed it to the snapper while still alive? He should be summarily fired, with cause! and prevented from ever teaching kids anything, ever again.


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We bred dogs to be man's best friend. We owe them better than this. How could this not be cruel to a species that we molded to trust us with their hearts and souls?


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This sickens me to read. There is no way this guy isn't guilty of animal cruelty. Topping it off is the fact that he's twisted his son's view of the world to think that it's the best way to deal with a sick puppy?

Take the pup to the vet. Let them euthanize the pup with an injection that won't hurt, then dispose of it, versus being terrified swimming in a cold tank and yanked to the bottom by a snapping turtle?? What asshat thinks this is in any way humane??


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