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Originally posted by 95flhr:
I'm all for getting rid of the time changes, the problem is what will it cost us. Congress always has to bury a shit ton or pork in every bill.


No worries, mate. It'll never see the light of day.


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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

It just passed unanimously in the Senate. Furthermore, nearly two-thirds of Americans want to stop changing their clocks, according to a 2021 poll:
https://today.yougov.com/topic...-want-stay-permanent


Yeah but what the poll doesn't say is 50 % of that 2/3 want it kept on DST, and the other half want standard time, the final third want it left alone, so in the end there isn't a majority that can agree on what time it should be... Razz

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Damn just pick one and leave it the hell alone.
 
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Damn just pick one and leave it the hell alone.

This. I don’t care which, just quit the switch every six months. It’s a pain in the ass and serves no useful purpose.


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Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa:
Damn just pick one and leave it the hell alone.

This. I don’t care which, just quit the switch every six months. It’s a pain in the ass and serves no useful purpose.


Actually, it’s more like 8 months of DST and 4 months of Standard Time. They extended DST “for the children”, so they could go trick or treating while it was still light (which many children would probably not agree with).
 
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Let's just split the difference at the 30 minutes between and make that permanent.



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I've suggested that very thing before. It makes a lot of sense to me.
 
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I'd prefer standard time myself.

I never could stand the fact that it stays light until well after 2200 in the summers. I hated it as a kid when bedtimes were 2100 or so and you were trying to go to sleep when it was still light out.


Move away from the frozen north, then. You chose to live somewhere where there is 16 hours of daylight and then 16 hours of night.




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If those legislators in Washington really wanted to accomplish something they would require that each day should have twenty-six hours instead of twenty-four, the added two hours would be daylight hours.


Yeah, but that would fuck people born on February 29 out of ever having a birthday.




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I'd prefer standard time myself.

I never could stand the fact that it stays light until well after 2200 in the summers. I hated it as a kid when bedtimes were 2100 or so and you were trying to go to sleep when it was still light out.


Move away from the frozen north, then. You chose to live somewhere where there is 16 hours of daylight and then 16 hours of night.


And there you have it, two different ideas on what the time standard should be what when, where and why, therefore it probably won't be changed as Northern states lobby for one standard and southern states another...
 
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We are still using inches and miles when the rest of the world has moved onto centimeters and kilometers, we are still using paper checks when the rest of the world has largely moved on to strictly electronic transactions, why mess with tradition?


And thank the Lord for that.


I carried a 6' metric tape in my left pocket and a 6' inch tape in my right for a couple decades and used both with my work interchangeably as needed with zero issues. When some one ask to borrow a tape measure I would ask... "Foreign or Domestic?" LOL! got a few strange looks.

And hating on paper checks? It's just another option vs electronic transactions. Options are good.



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^^^^^ Paper checks. Not everyone who needs to be paid has the ability to use plastic. And my cards don't allow more than $2500 in a single transaction or total in a day. Paper checks on the account don't have those limitations. I use them to pay my Handyman and to pay for my vacation tours; any large purchases also get paid by check.

I also used to carry a 10' rule all the time. The last time it got lost I didn't replace it. It was amazing how often I had found it useful.

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The dark side of permanent daylight savings time: How the Senate bill eliminating the changing of the clocks may make Americans sicker, fatter and more depressed, writes sleep expert DR. MEETA SINGH

Congress has taken a step towards fixing a federal policy that causes serious health problems across the entire US population.

Unfortunately, it is a step in exactly the wrong direction.

On Tuesday, the Senate unanimously passed legislation to do away with the widely despised annual changing of the clocks – which occur once in the spring and again in the fall.

The bill would make daylight savings time (DST) permanent starting in 2023.

Don't get me wrong -- establishing a fixed, national, year-round time is a good thing.

But nearly the entire scientific community is opposed to how they're going about it.

The truth is – we just don't know what the long-term health effects of permanent DST will be on Americans.

This would be a massive, society-wide experiment.

However, we have good reason to believe that permanent DST will make Americans sicker and more vulnerable.

Here's what we do know – the twice-annual transitions between standard and daylight savings time are bad for our health.

The human body is regulated by three major clocks.

One is internal, it is the biological clock, also known as the circadian clock. The internal time system is regulated in our brain and strongly cued by light.


*more at link*

Can’t say I agree…
 
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Can’t say I agree…


Can't see how anyone can disagree with the idea that we naturally wake to the light and sleep when it becomes dark.

Honestly, making daylight savings permanent rather than standard time is sounding more and more backwards and stupid; or perhaps I should say, not fully thought out.


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When has the government ever "fully thought out" anything. We are saddled with Unintended Consequences by them all the time.

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Senate PASSES a bill to make daylight savings time permanent - meaning America will never have to change its clocks again if it passes the House

*more at link*

The Senate on Tuesday passed a bill to make daylight savings permanent from November 2023, and will now go to a vote in the House.

The new legislation called The Sunshine Protection Act means that Americans will stop having to change their clocks twice a year in a ritual that was first adopted in 1918.

The bill was led by Democratic Sheldon Whitehouse and his Republican colleague Marco Rubio, who has said the move could reduce crime, childhood obesity and stress.

'It's time for Congress to take up our bipartisan legislation to make Daylight Saving Time permanent and brighten the coldest months with an extra hour of afternoon sun,' Whitehouse wrote on Twitter.

The measure still needs approval from the House of Representatives and the backing of President Joe Biden.

On Sunday, most of the United States resumed Daylight Savings Time, moving ahead one hour. The United States will resume standard time in November 2022.


So in about 5 years when most won't remember, these two will claim they passed a bill that would "The bill was led by Democratic Sheldon Whitehouse and his Republican colleague Marco Rubio, who has said the move could reduce crime, childhood obesity and stress." all with a stroke of their pen.

Also, I think under the terms of the bill, it won't kick in until 2023 so we may have to go one more round.

Maybe next fall we dip our toes in the water and only go back 30 minutes.


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I do hope we keep DST. I don’t get how that would hurt health. It’s dark at 9pm the latest (about). I hate dark at 4pm in winter. It’s depressing. I love being able to get yard work done after dinner.

I do have an exception for Halloween. As kids we always waited for dark. I found it odd they try to make it lighter for trick or treating.




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Why not make Standard Time standard???

I just moved to AZ which I like that they don't do DST but if DST is permanent, then I'd be off with all the other states - same time as Pacific Standard Time, one hour off from MST and two hours off from the rest.



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Why not make Standard Time standard???



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frayedends, yard work is what Saturday is for.

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